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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:13 pm

Calvinists scare me more than the Bolsheviks do.
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Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Goody67 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:04 am

It seems like the idiots don’t know when to give up.

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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:47 pm

That is one pathetically stupid thread so far. Kudos to zionist-occupation and Werd for reaching the level of buffoonery and mindlessness that been-there tries claiming for his own.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:58 pm

LOL, he’s using Wikipedia to make his point. I thought Wikipedia was under Jewish occupation, did this info slip under their noses????
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Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Jeff_36 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:47 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:54 pm
Luburic killed him, allegedly with a knife and on Pavelic's order. (Goldstein, pp 136-138, 573)
I have heard this as well. What was with the Ustase and knives? Most accounts of Jasenovac that I have seen read like slasher-horror on account of the seemingly universal fetish that the guards there had for blades. Awful awful stuff.

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Post by Denying-History » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:16 am

Jeff_36 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:47 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:54 pm
Luburic killed him, allegedly with a knife and on Pavelic's order. (Goldstein, pp 136-138, 573)
I have heard this as well. What was with the Ustase and knives? Most accounts of Jasenovac that I have seen read like slasher-horror on account of the seemingly universal fetish that the guards there had for blades. Awful awful stuff.
There called “throat cutters”.
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:39 pm

Jeff_36 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:47 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:54 pm
Luburic killed him, allegedly with a knife and on Pavelic's order. (Goldstein, pp 136-138, 573)
I have heard this as well. What was with the Ustase and knives? Most accounts of Jasenovac that I have seen read like slasher-horror on account of the seemingly universal fetish that the guards there had for blades. Awful awful stuff.
There is an early Ustasha propaganda piece - I will look for it, IIRC Goldstein references it - that is all on about knives in the coming struggle for power.
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 am

BTW, a Jew, (((Julian Edelman))), won MVP of the Super Bowl last night.

Damnit they’re everywhere!!!!!!!
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Balmoral95 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:26 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 am
BTW, a Jew, (((Julian Edelman))), won MVP of the Super Bowl last night.

Damnit they’re everywhere!!!!!!!
I'm told net year we're infiltrating Canadian curling championships :mrgreen:

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:44 am

LOL
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:19 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 am
BTW, a Jew, (((Julian Edelman))), won MVP of the Super Bowl last night.

Damnit they’re everywhere!!!!!!!
My wife, the ardent Patriots' fan, called that. Driving home she said that Edelman had to be MVP. With his beard he looks like a survivalist from 1980s Idaho. I googled him when we got home and learned that he spoke strongly about the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre.
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:55 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:19 am
With his beard he looks like a survivalist from 1980s Idaho.
That’s funny, I thought something similar.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Jeff_36 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:46 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:19 am
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 am
BTW, a Jew, (((Julian Edelman))), won MVP of the Super Bowl last night.

Damnit they’re everywhere!!!!!!!
My wife, the ardent Patriots' fan, called that. Driving home she said that Edelman had to be MVP. With his beard he looks like a survivalist from 1980s Idaho. I googled him when we got home and learned that he spoke strongly about the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre.
I was wondering why the "crazy mountain man" had a Jewish surname. As it turns out it was because he's.....well.......Jewish.

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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:17 pm

just add communism and stir: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27668&p=697993#p697993
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

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So, if I'm getting it right, this is how Stromchans belive that Soviet atrocities have accured:

Stalin: Commrade Genrikh, I have some names I need you to... take care of. *hands him a long list of names*

Yagoda: Very well Commrade Stalin, I shall... (*takes a closer look at the list*)... ummm, there might be a slight problem of this one.

Stalin: Problem?

Yagoda: Just a second (*pulls a small book with Hebrew letters out of his ass, starts reading*)

Stalin: ?????????

Yagoda: *continues reading his little book, take a quick look back at the list, then back in the book*
... umm, you know what... no. No. There's no problem this time. My mistake, silly me. I shall deal with those traitors ASAP.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:27 pm

Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:09 pm

Damn, they’re everywhere!!!’
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 66086.html

Mel Brooks is a national treasure:

Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:08 pm

I should have posted this, from the Books thread, here:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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Here are some statistics in considering the issues raised in this thread. They come from Dumitru, The State, Antisemitism, and Collaboration in the Holocaust, pp 99-101, Before looking at the numbers, it’s important to understand how Dumitru contextualizes the developments that led to this picture.

Dumitru describes three main drivers for the changing national relations under early Soviet rule, especially the status of Jews and their relations to the state and other groups in society:

1) in the 1920s and 1930s the USSR “proved full equality of rights for its Jewish citizens.
2) the Soviet authorities not only suppressed and punished antisemitic actions and speech but actively tried to “deconstruct negative stereotypes” of Jews and to build among Soviet citizens a positive view of Jews, based on their integration into society and participation in “socialist construction”
3) the Soviet state practiced “affirmative action” and opened up opportunities for Jews in areas of the economy from which they’d been excluded during tsarist times (David Shneer’s book, Through Soviet Jewish Eyes, discusses this same development with regard to news and media professionals; Dumitru looks at the broader picture and discusses, along with professional occupations, working class and peasant roles into which Jews were recruited

Dumitru says that antisemitism didn’t go away - in fact, the empowerment of Jews itself caused some resentment and conflict - but that the authorities battled it constantly and had significant success in changing relationships during the 1920s and 1930s. She also makes clear that Jews were affected by famine, the purges, various shortages, and other difficulties caused by party and state, but concludes that, when it came to interethnic relations and antisemitism, the state’s measures brought progress in integrating Jews into the mainstream of Soviet life. Thus, “it is no surprise that the Jewish population, while divided on many issues, described themselves during that period as ‘inclined to accept the existing regime’ . . .” (p 138)

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Now to add one of Dumitru's conclusions: She finds that peasants in Bessarabia haven’t depicted Jews in the province as supporters of Communism and, after the fact, didn't describe plunder of Jewish property or murder of local Jews as because of "perceived participation of Jews in the Soviet governance established after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. This, she notes, contrasts sharply with western Ukraine, where locals oftentimes justified their animosity toward Jews as rooted in terms of Żydokomuna. Rather, in Bessarabia, peasants - abetted by the long activity of the Romanian far right - viewed Jews as "the embodiment of the exploiter" and as "not us," as "outside society" and the source of local poverty and the harshness of life, objects of enmity not as Communists but as the group who impeded Bessarabians in overcoming their hardships. (pp 172-175)
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:47 pm

The first two papers in Geissbühler, ed, Romania and the Holocaust, deal with the myth of Judeo-Bolshevism in wartime Romania. Mariana Hausleitner details how in 1940 Romanian authorities fictionalized that attacks on retreating Romanian soldiers in Czernowitz during June of that year were staged by Jewish gangs - and again after 1990; Hausleitner is able to show that accused Jewish "ringleaders" did not play the roles attributed to them and that the myth of Jewish Communism was used in this instance to cover up Romania's national humiliation at the hands of the Russians as Romania agreed to cede Northern Bukovina and Bessarabia to the Soviets and carried out a hasty, poorly organized, chaotic retreat.

Henry L Eaton writes about the famous Iasi pogrom, which took place a year later, shortly after Barbarossa. In this case, Romanian authorities organized murders and arrests of Iasi Jews after Soviet bombing of the city and a night of shooting across Iasi. It was assumed that Jews had signaled the Soviets and carried out the shootings, although no evidence was found to support either charge in the immediate investigations carried out by the Romanians. The Jewish Communist myth was used to justify the mass murder of Jews. Later, Eaton says, the Romanian officials under investigation for these crimes, concocted a narrative and supporting "evidence" to blame the Germans (and some Romanian Legionnaires) both for the provocative shooting in the city and for instigating the murder of the Jews - in this way, they hoped, to exonerate Romanian officials and to advance "the idea that Romania had no Holocaust."
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:47 pm

Similarly in a microhistorical study of a July 1941 murder action - led by OUN(M) activists - in Borivsti, Alti Rodal shows that, whilst OUN appeals echoed the Żydokomuna calumny “intensely propagated by German and Romanian propaganda” - the mass murders of Jews carried out by the OUN in a number of towns and villages in Northern Bukovina at this time were part of the OUN’s decision to ethnically cleanse the region of Jews and Poles and “Muscovites.” These actions took place in a power vacuum during the first weeks of Barbarossa and alongside German Jewish exterminations (EG D) and Romanian murder actions in nearby areas.

The OUN identified the Soviets as their main enemy, not the Jews. But they acted quickly both to be lodged into positions of strength before the Romanians arrived (possession being 9/10 of the law) and to curry favor with the Germans, whom they hoped would support their aspirations to a national ethnic state, by killing Jews.

Finally, Rodal shows that - and the OUN activists were aware of this fact - that “the obvious reality [was] that the vast majority of Jews were not in fact communists and had suffered alongside others during the Soviet occupation (in deportations, expropriations, and suppression of national organizations and expression) and that those were responsible for the painful experiment for mass deportations in June 1941 were also not Jews,” and that in fact most local officials during the brief Soviet period in the region were Ukrainians, whom witnesses referred to as “Soviet activists”.

Rodal, in Geissbühler, pp 66-67, 80-88
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:05 pm

A twist on our topic is found in a paper by Sarah Rosen in Geissbühler's collection. Rosen analyzes a diary kept by Lipman Kunstadt, a Jewish journalist from Bukovina who was deported in October 1941 to Djurin, a ghetto in Transnistria, where he became secretary to the Jewish council.

Rosen shows that Kunstadt was attentive to the dichotomies between areas ruled by the Soviets during the interwar years and areas not under Soviet rule - and to charges made by the Romanians about Jewish-Communism. Kundstadt made a sarcastic note in his diary about perceptions of local Djurin Jews who'd lived in the prewar Soviet Union: these Jews were regarded by the Romanians as lower than low, vis-a-vis Jews from south of the interwar USSR (and deemed suspicious because of their exposure to Soviet power):

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:03 pm

Jeff_36 wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:24 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote:Inconvenient facts had a habit of flying over Hitler`s head.
Interesting to me that Goebbels was able to recognize the gap between fact and fiction in the show trials - but persevered with the belief, despite the evidence, just the same.

Hitler's statement, made as late as 1937, shows in part that it was not just from the east that his understanding of Judeo-Communism developed. The formative experience of the immediate postwar years and the upheavals Germany experience then shouldn't be underestimated.
Naturally one would expect that seeing how few Jews there were in the KPD, and hearing about Walter Rathenau's criticisms of the Bolsheviks would have made an impression no? I am of the opinion that his views were forged earlier.
PMJ vol 1 helps me clarify the point I was making here. The volume has a number of documents from early 1933 in which Nazis employ the myth of Jewish-Communism in domestic culture (and political) wars, almost all the references showing how the concept was formed and deployed in battles against internal foes and tendencies (Marx himself, for example), with only a single reference so far to Moscow.

The argument converges a bit - and explicitly at that - with the Nazi critique of the legacy of the French revolution (Liberty, equality, fraternity) in that the Jews were depicted as being behind the ideologies and politics that had destroyed and would continue to subjugate the German Volk. Likewise, Jewish control of industry and finance in Germany is also described as an existential threat to the Volk. Internationalism figures prominently, and Marx, nicknamed Mordechai, is said to have written Capital "at the behest of the international Jewish masonic lodges."

Even before the seizure of power, for example, Wilhelm Levinger, a lawyer from Bavaria, would write an entry entitled "Antisemitism: History (Germany)" for Jüdisches Lexikon that held that Adolf Hitler, leader of the NSDAP, promised in the early 1920s that "Germany . . . could free itself from its external enemies only after destroying the Marxists and Jews, whom he viewed as the 'internal enemy.'" Later, in 1934, a Nazified professor of theology at Göttingen in 1934 characterized Marxism "as the product of a German-Jewish mixd marriage and as evidence for the impossibility of Jewish emancipation on the soil of Christian nationhood." One piece, Weimar culture in mind, focuses on German cultural issues, especially theater and music, with a catalogue of domestic horrors: "dramas with communist tendency," art "misused as a means to express Marxist theories," music turned out "under the rule of the Jews Kestenberg [as] propaganda for Marxist class struggle" with the aim of "the destruction of the German soul," and "cultural Bolshevism" "in our midst."

I think that this thread overemphasizes eastern Europe and "facts" about the USSR at the expense of getting into the Nazi mindset, its obsessions and its promises, the way Nazis explained their world, in the context in which they operated - what they took as their near- and long-term challenges, and how they fought their battles for power. The myth of Jewish-Communism wasn’t about counting members of the Soviet Politburo but an explanatory tool and propaganda material employed in the rise of the Nazis to power and the subsequent life of the Third Reich.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:18 pm

The NSDAP’s boycott call, published 30 March 1933 in the Völkischer Beobachter and written by Goebbels, is quite interesting in terms of the above issues.

First, right after the headlines state that “the Jews have declared war on 65 million Germans,” the call immediately explains that the boycott will come in the context of the success of a national revolution “that ended the Marxist-Jewish specter” in Germany.

Second, the call says that after the struggle was taken to them by the National Socialists in Germany, “the Jewish-Marxist bigwigs have given up their power. . . . [N]ot a single one of them dared to resist.” In fact, “for the most part they have . . . fled the country with their bank accounts full of money.”

The only reference to Bolshevism in the East follows, but framed by the claim about the defeats Jewish-Marxist types in Germany that “No one touched a hair on their heads”; this supposed benevolence is contrasted with the destructive civil war into which Russia was plunged by “the Bolshevik revolution.” The call doesn’t mention, or allude to, Jews in the Russian revolution.

Third, the call argues that the instigation against Germany comes from abroad. The national revolution has taken care of its internal enemies, it is said: “the domestic enemies of the nation have been rendered harmless. . . .” Nevertheless, “the communist and Marxist criminals and their Jewish intellectual instigators have moved abroad, taking their vast funds with them. From there, they are now instigating an unscrupulous and treasonous smear campaign against the German people as a whole.” Curiously, the call attributes this Jewish-communist campaign, not to Moscow, but to “the former Entente,” many of which states supported the Whites in Russia against the Bolsheviks.

Fourth, those campaigning against Germany are also described as “a clique of Jewish literati, professors, and businessmen.” Previously Nazi officials had highlighted statements by Einstein and Feuchtwanger as well as the reports from many people who’d fled Germany in the early days of Nazi-headed government.

Last, and in contradiction to all the premises already articulated, the call says that, in order to “strike the Jews themselves a thousand times harder” than they have hit Germany, the boycott will target “Jewish shops, Jewish merchandise, Jewish doctors, and Jewish lawyers” across Germany: “The boycott is a purely defensive measure, which is directed only against the Jews in Germany,” despite a campaign supposedly launched by Jewish-communist ex-pats and foreigners from abroad.

The call concludes with a reiteration of this dissonant point: “We took care of Marxist agitation in Germany. They will not force us to our knees even by continuing from abroad these criminal acts of treason against our people.”

What’s interesting in the context of our discussion is that the major announcement for the April 1933 boycott was justified to the German people in terms of the myth of Jewish-communism but with an almost total focus on the culture and political wars in Germany.

PMJ1, pp 117-121
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:38 pm

Reitlinger, Chapter 9: The Soviet Union II: The Massacres

Reitlinger touches on the OP by noting that during the USSR’s occupation of Latvia and Lithuania, the Soviets deported 70,000 people. Out of that number approximately 25,000 were middle class Jews. He also notes that Jews didn’t benefit politically due the Soviet occupation. He states that the ruling Communists in Lithuania included only two Jews out of 85 members. He touches on the fact that the Soviets suppressed the Yiddish press and education. He also notes that Jewish Bundists, Zionists, Social Democrats and Orthodox were indiscriminately deported.

Pages 212-213

I’ll see about tracking down his footnotes when I get a minute.
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:34 pm

Back to ways in which the Nazis tried to make use of Jewish-Bolshevism: in May 1934 the Regierungspräsident of Frankfurt an der Oder issued a statement justifying the confiscation of a valuable estate from German banker Hugo Simon, who was Jewish.

The Regierungspräsident justified the confiscation citing "laws issued on 26 May and 14 July 1943." These laws were, respectively, the Law Concerning the Confiscation of Communist Property and the Law Concerning the Confiscation of Subversive Property.

Simon was described as a Marxist and a subversive because, first, he had served in the Weimar-era Prussian government until just before the seizure of power; second, he was a member of the social democratic SPD; and, third, he maintained friendships and contacts with "high-standing Marxist figures," including Bernard Weiss, deputy police chief of Berlin and frequent target of the Nazis and other Weimar-era politicians.

The Regierungspräsident dismissed Simon's plea that his associates included many right-wing and nationalist figures and that his "senior employees" were Nazi oriented, saying that party membership of two of Simon's senior staff was only sought in 1933 and that one remained "politically unreliable."

Here's the thing: the Regierungspräsident's explanation was not accepted. In fall 1934 the Gestapo reported that it had been unable to establish facts under the two laws cited that would justify confiscation of the estate. Instead, the confiscation of Simon's estate was to be justified retroactively only on the basis that Simon had fled Germany; it was recommended that he be denaturalized and the confiscation thus be legalized.

PMJ1, pp362--364
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:28 pm

In spring 1936 for the inaugural issue of Historische Zeitschrift, introducing a regular column entitled "History of the Jewish Question," Wilhelm Grau included a review of a recently published book, The Situation of the Jews in Russia from the March 1917 Revolution to the Present (1935) by Abraham Heller.

Grau observes that Heller, "a Zionist nationalist Jew," believes that his research and analysis challenge the Jewish-Communist linkage ("he vehemently opposes the schemes of the Jewish Bolsheviks, who threaten congregational life of the Zionists, and aim to destroy Jewish rituals and the Hebrew language").

To make his argument, says Grau, Heller "conceals the diabolical links between the Jews and Bolshevism." Grau specifically targets four points made by Heller - first, the supposedly fixed nature a Jew - Grau dismisses Heller's point that the Jewish leaders in the Bolshevik party acted not as Jews but as pure internationalists. Grau says that this isn't possible and that, for example, Trotsky must be regarded as a Jew no matter his upbringing and the circles he acted within.

Second, Zionism vs Bolshevism. Grau focuses on Heller's discussion of the battle Russian Zionists conducted against the Bolsheviks and Bolshevik politics (e.g., restrictions on capitalism) against the Jews. Grau concedes that "the Jewish parties [in Russia] had their doubts after the overthrow" about the Bolsheviks. But Grau says that what Heller sees as opposition is nothing more than "an inner-Jewish factional dispute over the principle of assimilation on the one had and the world of Zionist thought on the other." In this internal Jewish squabble, "the assimilated Jewish Bolsheviks" targeted the Zionists - but, far from being unique to Russia, "these struggles . . . have been part and parcel of the history of Jews in all countries." Further, Heller neglected to call out "the suffering that Jewish leaders brought upon the Russian people and the peoples of the world." Nor did Heller demonstrate a true "anti-Jewish stance within Bolshevism" (because the Bolsheviks treated Jews as a national minority); this latter point is crucial even though "the rise of Stalin forced many of the important Jewish Bolsheviks of the Lenin era into the opposition." One reason is that important ministries were still "teeming" with Jews.

Third, anti-Bolshevik Jews were objectively Bolshevik. Grau chides Heller for missing the real meaning of the push for civil equality by the Russian Zionists: "many Jews took an active part" in fighting Russian absolutism. Skipping over the February revolution, and much more, then, Grau says that not only the 'pure internationalists' but also the Zionist Jews contributed to the fall of the Tsar and the establishment of Bolshevik rule." In this view, the Zionists objectively assisted the Bolsheviks, as Marxists might say.

Fourth, anti-Semitism is really anti-Bolshevism. Grau says that Heller had misunderstood anti-Semitism. Heller argues that the equation of Jews with Bolshevism is an instance of an anti-Semitic charge. For Grau, this is exactly backwards, because "For the most part, antisemitism in Russia also bears an anti-Bolshevik character." In the way, Grau "proves" Jewish Communism on the basis of the prevalence of the myth among, for example, Ukrainian nationalists. Grau insists on this despite recognizing that there occurred many anti-Semitic manifestations [with the Communist party of the Soviet Union, which, according to Grau, can only be examples of anti-Bolshevism. Further, insofar as the Soviet authorities did not permit anti-Semitism, even within party ranks, during this period, the only explanation that Grau can offer is that they saw anti-Semitism as an attack on the ruling Jewish Communists (I refer you to posts I made on Dumitru's book for some possibilities which Grau could not conceive of, through his ideological blinders).

Grau is alarmed that in 1926 about 4% of all communists in the Soviet Union were Jews, against their percentage in the population (1.8%). Worse, he declares that Bolshevik ideology was based on "the teachings of the Jew Karl Marx" (one might have thought "the German Karl Marx . . .") and that standing beside Lenin were "almost" only Jews in the "command posts within the Russian Revolution." Further, Grau reworks some of Heller's occupational data to exaggerate the % of Jews employed in the state sector within the Soviet Union. More on this below but first Grau makes another concession, namely, that "Bolshevism is not synonymous with Judaism and Judaism is not synonymous with Bolshevism. Not every Bolshevik is a Jew and not every Jew is a Bolshevik." (By their testimonies at their NMT trial, the Einsatzgruppen commanders showed that this simple point is one that they did not grasp.) But, as with his case for the "objective" support which Zionists gave the Bolshevik revolution, subsuming observed differences into an a priori commonality, Grau declares "that the intellectual affinity between these two powers is obvious," despite the extensive and determined opposition of many Jews to Bolshevism, of which Grau was well aware (and despite too the many other political and religious tendencies among Russian Jews and Jews in Europe, about which Grau is silent).

Further, Grau states that "The moral, political, and sociological contribution of the Jews to Bolshevism is incontestable." Grau focuses on the high numbers of Jews in state positions. Heller, as quoted by Grau, attributed this high number to sociological factors (Jews' greater urbanism vs a largely peasant society, Jewish educational attainment) and political factors (the new state's need to replace a compromised bureaucratic strata, Jews' receptivity to the new regime). Recent scholarship deepens this sociological and political explanation; a good example can be found in David Shneer's book on Soviet Jewish photographers and how Jews, previously suffering discrimination, found opportunity and upward mobility in Soviet society (Dumitru's work is another example). Heller also sees Jewish intellectuals in particular as having staked out positions within the parties (plural) on the side of revolution against the old regime. But for Grau there is only a conspiratorial link and an unexplained "affinity" of views ("political and ideological") between Jewish "power" and Soviet "power": it had to be that it was because Jews were always "Jewish Marxists" that Jews entered state service and new professions during the 1920s and 1930s.

PMJ1, pp 605-610
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:20 am

PMJ1 contains a speech on the topic of Jewish Communism given by Hitler in Nuremberg on 13 September 1937 at the ninth Party rally (pp 734-743). I will try to summarize it at some point. It is a mind-blowing trip to Crazytown. It is so fanciful, so venomous, so paranoid, so unmoored that you truly think the man was already drug addled. The crowd ate it up, of course.

One thing I've noticed - it may be a quirk of the selection/editing process, it may reflect a real trend - is that toward the later '30s, as the Nazis have mopped up domestic competitors and opponents, the focus of Nazi leaders' statements on Jewish Communism shifted, more toward Soviet Russia, less about Germany. Hitler's 1937 Nuremberg speech, however, after starting out with a focus on the Soviet Union, turns back to Germany and the Nazis' success in rescuing the country from the Jews-Bolsheviks and concludes with global "perspectives" largely playing off the situation in Spain.
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Aaron Richards » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Has anyone heard about "Captain" Montgomery Schuyler (Jr.)?

He was chief intelligence officer of the American Expeditionary Force at Omsk in Siberia, Russia, following the Bolshevik Revolution

Revisionists use a telegram he sent as source of Jewish Bolshevism. I will reproduce it below:

Montgomery Schuyler Jr. to The Chief of Staff, “Headquarters, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia: General Report – Omsk


Source on Wikipedia (scan is hard to read) but check the description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Telegram_02a.jpg
Summary
Here are snip[pets of Army Intelligence reports written by Captain Montgomery Schuyler. Schuyler made a point of the heavy Jewish involvement in the Communist revolution. Schuyler wrote that "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and controlled but Russians Jews of the greasiest type.." and went on to point out that of the total 384 commissars running the Soviet Union, more than 300 were Jews."

Here is a proper scan of the three pages of the report, with page 2 being the one cited:

https://jamiefreeman.news/educate-yours ... mar19.html


Page 2:

https://jamiefreeman.news/educate-yours ... e2full.jpg
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Re: refuting the notion of "Jewish Bolshevisim"

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:37 pm

No, but Hitler said that the Bolshevik revolution was a project carried out by the "racial nucleus" of Jewry, that within Bolshevism in Russia "more than 90 percent of the leading positions are held by Jews" and that the "Bolshevik International" had been "organized solely by Jewish elements." This beats an old report from Siberia. :)

Of course, Dolfy was full of {!#%@}.

But it wouldn't matter if 384 of 384 commissars were Jewish: the revolution was never a project of the Jews as a racial nucleus, the Jewish minority in Russia, international Jewry, Jewish world Bolshevism, the Jews or anything like what the myth claims. The headcount debate almost buys into the paranoia simply by taking place.
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