Letting Go of the Concept of You

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Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by placid » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am

Ultimately there is no thing here letting go of anything. That in itself is knowledge which is fiction. No thing has knowledge there is KNOWN only knowledge.
All KNOWN knowledge defaults to unknowing zero point. That is the only freedom there is..and it's right here and now, nowhere. (Source is it's own Source this immediate unknown known) There is no YOU because there is no other than YOU.

Ultimately. I am not telling you anything you do not already know.

That which is unknown will eventually become known. But that which is unknowable will never be known.

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“Across planes of consciousness, we have to live with the paradox that opposite things can be simultaneously true.”
― ram dass

“It's all real and it's all illusory:
that's Awareness!”
― ram dass

“All religious or spiritual practices are illusions created by illusionists to escape illusion.”
― ram dass

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by ElectricMonk » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:55 am

semantics.

also:
booring!

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by OutOfBreath » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm

"All words are pointless and futile, except my words of course" signed solipsist wanker.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by landrew » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:26 pm

Translation: "Blah-blah-blah... blah-blah... blah-blah-blah-blah...
blah."
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Monster » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:25 pm

placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
Ultimately there is no thing here letting go of anything. That in itself is knowledge which is fiction. No thing has knowledge there is KNOWN only knowledge.
All KNOWN knowledge defaults to unknowing zero point. That is the only freedom there is..and it's right here and now, nowhere. (Source is it's own Source this immediate unknown known) There is no YOU because there is no other than YOU.

Ultimately. I am not telling you anything you do not already know.

That which is unknown will eventually become known. But that which is unknowable will never be known.

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“Every religion is the product of the conceptual mind attempting to describe the mystery.”
― ram dass


“Across planes of consciousness, we have to live with the paradox that opposite things can be simultaneously true.”
― ram dass

“It's all real and it's all illusory:
that's Awareness!”
― ram dass

“All religious or spiritual practices are illusions created by illusionists to escape illusion.”
― ram dass
That was idiocy.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Gord » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:26 am

Who the hell is "rammed ass"?
"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
"Imagine an ennobling of what could be" -- the New Age BS Generator site
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Post by OutOfBreath » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:09 am

In norwegian "ram dass" could mean "reeky toilet" or something to that effect. Fitting it seems.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Poodle » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:24 am

Ram Dass used to hang around with Timothy Leary. Enough said.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Gord » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:49 pm

OutOfBreath wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:09 am
In norwegian "ram dass" could mean "reeky toilet" or something to that effect. Fitting it seems.

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So basically the same as in Englarsh, then.
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Re: Letting go of Placid's delusion

Post by mirror93 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:22 pm

placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
Ultimately there is no --- --- letting go of anything.
You ultimately let go of your old posts about loving hitler, by removing them.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
knowledge which is fiction.
Therefore we can conclude that the phrase "that in itself is knowledge" (which is made up knowledge by the obnoxious liar that is the woman who is behind Placid's account) is also fiction. Therefore not all knowledge is fictional, according to your personal religious framework.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
--- has knowledge there is --- only ---.
A person has knowledge in their mind. A thing is an OBJECT, a person is a SUBJECT.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
--- --- knowledge defaults to unknowing zero point.
Knowledge is just facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
That is the only freedom there is..and it's---.
Your concept of freedom is not the same as mine and I doubt someone else will buy into yours, it's complete fictional.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
(source is it's own source this immediate --- ---)
There is no "source".
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
There is no --- because there is no --- --- ---.
You are a person, you are a woman.

you
/yo͞o,yə/Submit
pronoun
1.
used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing.

placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
Ultimately. I am not telling you anything you do not already ---.
You are telling us your personal religious framework, that we DIDN'T know, before you came here with all your stupidity, you imbecile.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
That which is --- will eventually become --- . But that which is --- will never be ---.
Word salad that makes no sense.

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placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
“Every religion is the product of the conceptual mind attempting to describe the mystery.”
― ram dass
Yours is ALSO a religion, didn't you know that?
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
“Across planes of consciousness, we have to live with the paradox that opposite things can be simultaneously true.”
― ram dass
?? :lol:
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
“It's --- real -- -illusory:
that's ---!”
― ram dass
If it's real then it's not illusory, one negates the other. You ONLY know 'illusion' in comparison to 'real', didn't you know that? you dumb imbecile :lol:
And 'awareness' is just the knowledge or perception of a situation or fact. It's not connected with arguments about illusion or reality. it's nothing to do with it. Awareness is just a peripheral detail in someone's brain, it's distinct from anything you've said here.
placid wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:32 am
“All religious or spiritual practices are illusions created by illusionists to escape illusion.”
― ram dass
That includes yours. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by mirror93 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:31 pm

OutOfBreath wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm
"All words are pointless and futile, except my words of course" signed solipsist wanker.

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It's unbeliavable how she can't see it, it's unbeliavable how dumb this moron is.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by placid » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:58 am

OutOfBreath wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm
"All words are pointless and futile, except my words of course" signed solipsist wanker.

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“We’re fascinated by the words, but where we meet is in the silence behind them.”

Peace out wanker.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by OutOfBreath » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:10 am

placid wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:58 am
OutOfBreath wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm
"All words are pointless and futile, except my words of course" signed solipsist wanker.

Peace
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“We’re fascinated by the words, but where we meet is in the silence behind them.”

Peace out wanker.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by placid » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:23 am

OutOfBreath wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:10 am
placid wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:58 am
OutOfBreath wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm
"All words are pointless and futile, except my words of course" signed solipsist wanker.

Peace
Dan

“We’re fascinated by the words, but where we meet is in the silence behind them.”

Peace out wanker.
http://wisdomofchopra.com wrote:Your heart is inside exponential happiness"
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No such thing as happiness because there is no thing here that is unhappy.

All concepts are of the mind which is not a thing. So even the mind is a myth.

Simply, there are no things.

The natural state is the stateless state.

“A guru is the one who leaves a sh*t load of mess behind him in this world.”
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Lausten » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:31 pm

placid wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:23 am

“A guru is the one who leaves a sh*t load of mess behind him in this world.”
― U.G. Krishnamurti

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A guru is one who has figured out how to get others to provide his meals and housing for him (almost always a him). He might have some skill at listening and helping people get unstuck from whatever petty problems they have, but my high school football coach could do that. When gurus start figuring out how to feed the world and negotiate world peace, I'll buy their books.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by landrew » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:03 pm

Lausten wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:31 pm
A guru is one who has figured out how to get others to provide his meals and housing for him (almost always a him). He might have some skill at listening and helping people get unstuck from whatever petty problems they have, but my high school football coach could do that. When gurus start figuring out how to feed the world and negotiate world peace, I'll buy their books.
I think you're referring to the self-appointed kind of guru, who isn't worth much, and has apparently taken a page from Trump's book of self-promotion. And it's usually a him, because the female version is sometimes referred to as "diva."

I usually have a measure of respect for a "guru" who has earned that title honestly, and has had it bestowed on him by others. They tend to be the go-to people in the workplace, and I usually find their opinions worth hearing.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Lausten » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:28 pm

landrew wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:03 pm
Lausten wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:31 pm
A guru is one who has figured out how to get others to provide his meals and housing for him (almost always a him). He might have some skill at listening and helping people get unstuck from whatever petty problems they have, but my high school football coach could do that. When gurus start figuring out how to feed the world and negotiate world peace, I'll buy their books.
I think you're referring to the self-appointed kind of guru, who isn't worth much, and has apparently taken a page from Trump's book of self-promotion. And it's usually a him, because the female version is sometimes referred to as "diva."

I usually have a measure of respect for a "guru" who has earned that title honestly, and has had it bestowed on him by others. They tend to be the go-to people in the workplace, and I usually find their opinions worth hearing.
You're referring to the secondary definition of the word, more colloquial, not how placid used it, which of course is what I'm responding to. sure, you can say a respected teacher is a "guru", but that's not what Krishnamurti was talking about. Really, both you and Lance could use some self education on what words are and how to use them.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by landrew » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:34 pm

Lausten wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:28 pm
Really, both you and Lance could use some self education on what words are and how to use them.
I'm still searching for the word to describe someone who will go to any lengths to avoid being corrected.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Lausten » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:21 pm

landrew wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:34 pm
Lausten wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:28 pm
Really, both you and Lance could use some self education on what words are and how to use them.
I'm still searching for the word to describe someone who will go to any lengths to avoid being corrected.
I wasn't wrong. You were off topic.
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"Your heart is a reflection of intricate facts" _

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Letting Go of the person behind Placid's account

Post by mirror93 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:50 pm

Gord wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:26 am
Who the hell is "rammed ass"?
it seems to be one of the gurus Placid gets her ideas from
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Letting Go of the person behind Placid's account

Post by mirror93 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:09 pm

With all sincerity, Why is Placid not banned yet??

100% of what she says has no substance, each one of her words are pure FALSE doctrines, she is a liar, pure and simple.
She is preaching solipsism here since she joined the forum back in 2015, and no ADM does anything. (Solipsists should be banned in ANY forum, as they are self-refuting, If you're a solipsist, then for who are you trying to prove your idioticy?)
It's the new solipsism, preach all forms of solipsism and then claim solipsism itself is an idea in your solipsistic paradigm.
The person that runs Placid account say that what Hitler did was an act of love, she's a sociopath, maniac, possibly psychopath.
She never answers ANY questions, she just post more of her pseudo-nihilistic and strong solipsism when questioned about her posts.
The person behind the account is frustrated, toxic, self-absorbed and empty.
She has nothing to offer here, only solipsism, then why keep her on the forum?
Can't the ADM see it?

Confidencia got banned but Placid not?
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Re: Letting Go of the person behind Placid's account

Post by placid » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:34 am

mirror93 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:50 pm
Gord wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:26 am
Who the hell is "rammed ass"?
it seems to be one of the gurus Placid gets her ideas from
A guru is an idea.

What is an idea? .. I've no idea.

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Re: Letting Go of the person behind Placid's account

Post by mirror93 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:37 am

placid wrote:
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Cool.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=28486&p=704587#p704587
Here you said about totality.
I have a brain, someone else here also has a brain. Now tell me how many totalities are there if each one of us have a brain?
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Poodle » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:43 am

"With all sincerity, Why is Placid not banned yet??"
Because Placid hasn't broken the forum rules yet, I regret to say. Anyway, who else could we all kick?

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

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Poodle wrote:
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...who else could we all kick?
Someone could start a poll, maybe?
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

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Gord wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Poodle wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:43 am
...who else could we all kick?
Someone could start a poll, maybe?
I wouldn't last long.
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Post by Gord » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:43 pm

I presumed that by "kick" Poodle meant "gang up on and abuse, kicking them while they were down" and not "ban someone from the forum". However I don't want to be seen to appear to speak for my canine overlord.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by landrew » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:28 pm

Gord wrote:
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I presumed that by "kick" Poodle meant "gang up on and abuse, kicking them while they were down" and not "ban someone from the forum". However I don't want to be seen to appear to speak for my canine overlord.
It's human nature to want to gang together, to bully others and to "kick" them when they are down. It's what happens when you grow up without learning much.
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by placid » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:43 am

'No one' is the ultimate subject (which cannot be objectified... except in words like 'no one'... which have no meaning)

On this basis, there is no double negative.

You are me and I am you and no one is the only one here.

There are no 'others', only 'other perspectives', from which no one experiences the apparent world.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Poodle » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:54 pm

Well, I'm glad that's sorted out.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of eating

Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:20 pm

Ya but - what does that buy you at the grocery store?
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of eating

Post by OutOfBreath » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:44 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:20 pm
Ya but - what does that buy you at the grocery store?
But there is no grocery store. You are the grocery store!

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of eating

Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:49 pm

OutOfBreath wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:44 pm
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:20 pm
Ya but - what does that buy you at the grocery store?
But there is no grocery store. You are the grocery store!

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Are you saying I am avoirdupoisly challenged? :glare:
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of eating

Post by OutOfBreath » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:52 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:49 pm
OutOfBreath wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:44 pm
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:20 pm
Ya but - what does that buy you at the grocery store?
But there is no grocery store. You are the grocery store!

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Are you saying I am fat? :glare:
I'm saying fat is you and nonexistant! Solipsism is such fun! Everything is nonexistant but also you! :)

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of soup

Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:55 pm

OK, not fat. But fat nevertheless?


Hey, that's approaching normal! (How dare you!) :nownow:
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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by MJK22 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:09 pm

There's no concept of me anymore. The real me. The true me. The original me. The natural me.

She (did you notice that?) was intentionally harmed, ruined and destroyed and in the ugly black light of that profoundly miserable truth and reality I'm currently seeking undignified mourners to attempt to rescue and restore me through the strong heroic act of deep, bitter grief. Your pained outcries and tyrannical demands for the recovery of me is verily very super much appreciated. Thank YOU, each one in all.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by Wordbird » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:54 pm

I ain't the grocery store 'cuz I dun get no cash when it sells stuff.

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Re: Letting Go of the Concept of You

Post by MJK22 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:24 am

Wordbird wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:54 pm
I ain't the grocery store 'cuz I dun get no cash when it sells stuff.
Yeah i just served a 3 week psychotic sadistic football game in a minimum wage grocery store. The gang army is abundant with foul souls but the concept of them is like a starving beast sucking marrow out of nonpsychopaths. So there you have it.