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Re: Trump will win!

Post by gorgeous » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:45 pm

fox-----“All of our problems are caused by three people,” one senior House Democrat lamented to Fox News.

That would be New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar and Tlaib – all freshmen, and all uniquely unencumbered by things like decorum or deference to party elders.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:14 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:48 am


As to the Democratic field . . . that sinking feeling as one studies the list of candidates . . . but why not Mike Dukakis? He's only 7 or so years older than Bernie and Biden . . .
Hey!!!! I proudly voted for Dukakis and am one of like three or four people that did so!!!!!

:D


BTW I’ve always been against wild talk of impeachment. It’s a waste a time and will not happen unless Mueller (or someone else) comes up with something so devastating that it forces the issue. Even then I doubt the spineless jellyfish that currently hold a Senate majority would get enough votes to push it through.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
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Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:03 pm

Stacy Abrams might enter the fray...
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:22 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
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Hey!!!! I proudly voted for Dukakis and am one of like three or four people that did so!!!!!
One snowy day my father called me and asked me what about this Dukakis guy he had begun hearing so much about. After all, I lived in MA at the time.

I recall telling him two things:
1. Dukakis was one of the supposed new breed of Dems, fiscally conservative and socially liberal as they said. Meaning that they were part of the disassembly of the "New Deal" and its spawn. I told him that DLC types like Gore, Tsongas, Biden, and the rest might as well be Republicans. My father was always very much on the left and considered himself a Democrat only tenuously due to the party's segregationist wing and then to its hawkish foreign policy wing.
2. Dukakis was a failed governor, by then an object of scorn and derision, and the people of MA would be happy to have anyone take him off their hands, although electing him president seemed to be going to extremes. I told my father that Dukakis couldn't win reelection in MA and wouldn't get the nomination.

Ugh.

I don't even remember if I voted in '88. I do however recall Bill Clinton's horrific performance at the convention that year. I had a friend who knew Clinton well and vouched for him (Clinton was another of those new Democrats) but couldn't defend him from that point on.
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BTW I’ve always been against wild talk of impeachment. It’s a waste a time and will not happen unless Mueller (or someone else) comes up with something so devastating that it forces the issue. Even then I doubt the spineless jellyfish that currently hold a Senate majority would get enough votes to push it through.
Fully agree.

I don't see being for or against impeachment as putting one into the progressive or non-progressive camp, either.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:35 pm

:D
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:41 pm

ROFL I saw that movie when it was released at Fresh Pond Cinema in Cambridge. Every seat in the theater was taken, or close to it, the place was packed. For a long time my recollection was inventive - it had the photo of Dukakis on the tank. When Mike showed up that night in the movie theater, the laughter and applause and hollering and whooping were so loud and went on so long that I missed what came next. Which was pretty funny stuff I later learned :)
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Re: Trump will sin!

Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:01 pm

I wonder if (and what) he might say about the yuge College Scam bust. :heh:



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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:54 pm

Um...wot...
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:55 pm

May loses again.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:00 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47547887

So, if it doesn’t pass with no deal in place does that mean do over?
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:13 pm

My understanding is that as of today there is no deal, all of That- er May's deals being rejected and that

- today's defeat was too big for May to take a third shot at her deal
- tomorow MPs vote on no-deal Brexit (that is, US leaves EU without any terms and conditions agreed with EU)
- if no deal fails, then MPs vote on an Article 50 extension (likely short term - but Tory leadership is refusing to tell MPs what will be proposed)
- if an extension fails, BBC says that UK will leave EU with no deal
- if an extension succeeds, BBC sees the following options: no deal back in play, another vote in May's deal, more negotiations with EU, 2nd referendum, general election is called, no confidence vote, or Brexit is called off (the EU could reject an extension or further negotiations)

That's BBC's take. The EU is saying, according to Buzzfeed:
. . . UK now has 3 options:

1) leave with no deal on March 29
2) ask for extension (dependant on reason, length & EU27 unanimity)
3) revoke article 50

“There will be no further talks,” the source says.
So this scratches the "further negotiations" option which the BBC lists.

This is more complicated than flying one of Trump's planes.
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Re: Trump will win!

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I wonder if she got the washroom key back from him..... :D

https://m.ctpost.com/technology/busines ... 682943.php

I wonder how long it took him to move all of his bibles.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:54 pm
Um...wot...

LOL
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Trump will win!

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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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:lol:
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:14 pm

On a serious note, I am surprised that the FAA hasn't acted, along with the EU and a number of countries, to temporarily ground the new 737s.
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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:14 pm
On a serious note, I am surprised that the FAA hasn't acted, along with the EU and a number of countries, to temporarily ground the new 737s.
NPR has it an hour ago that those planes are gradually being grounded worldwide...

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:34 pm

yup per NPR:

- Argentina (Aerolíneas Argentinas)
- Australia
- Austria
- Belgium
- Brazil (GOL Linhas Aéreas)
- Cayman Islands (Cayman Airways)
- China
- Ethiopia
- EASA member states
- France
- Germany
- Iceland (Icelandair)
- India
- Indonesia
- Ireland
- Italy
- Malaysia
- Mexico (Aeromexico)
- Mongolia (MIAT Mongolian Airlines)
- Morocco (Royal Air Maroc)
- Netherlands
- Norway (Norwegian)
- Oman
- Poland
- Singapore
- South Africa (Comair)

But not USA. Per NYT:
• President Trump had a telephone conversation with the chief executive of Boeing, who made the case that the 737 Max 8 should not be grounded in the United States, according to two people briefed on the conversation. . . .

• At least 34 airlines have now grounded the Max 8, which means roughly two-thirds of the Max 8 planes in operation are now idled. The major outliers are Southwest and American in the United States, and Air Canada.
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I heard the UK not only ordered theirs grounded but will not allow any Max 8 air traffic in, out and over at all?
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:07 am

Reading, watching - House Democrats are tripping themselves up and confusing themselves in trying to explain Pelosi's remarks from yesterday. To Balmoral's point earlier.
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scrmbldggs wrote:
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I heard the UK not only ordered theirs grounded but will not allow any Max 8 air traffic in, out and over at all?
Seems some are grounding whilst others are banning from their airspace.... Meanwhile Boeing stock off 5% today.... and Ted Cruz is chair of United States Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security.....

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:24 am

B-b-b-b-but the CEO of Boeing doesn't want the planes temporarily grounded . . .
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:07 am
Reading, watching - House Democrats are tripping themselves up and confusing themselves in trying to explain Pelosi's remarks from yesterday. To Balmoral's point earlier.
They should collectively agree to shut the hell up until January 2021.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:27 am

They are trying to express agreement with Pelosi but they don't actually seem to agree with her. It is kind of amusing, in a painful way, to watch.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:24 am
B-b-b-b-but the CEO of Boeing doesn't want the planes temporarily grounded . . .
He's a chap with a small problem: Boeing got 5,000 of these lemons order :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeff_36 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:38 am

Balmoral95 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 am
Looking at the Dem field, we're facked....
Biden would be a safe pick at this point. He would handily beat Trump in a general contest and he would restore the rightful order of things as POTUS. Sanders would destroy Trump but I fear he would bring continued disorder. What is needed now is a return to normalcy.

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Jeff_36 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:38 am
Balmoral95 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 am
Looking at the Dem field, we're facked....
Biden would be a safe pick at this point. He would handily beat Trump in a general contest and he would restore the rightful order of things as POTUS. Sanders would destroy Trump but I fear he would bring continued disorder. What is needed now is a return to normalcy.
Can you please explain what constitutes "normalcy" in this moronic inferno?

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:00 am

The college admissions scandal really pisses me off: these corrupt bastards took admission spots away from legacy cases.
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Re: Trump will win!

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Jeff_36 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:38 am
Balmoral95 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 am
Looking at the Dem field, we're facked....
Biden would be a safe pick at this point. He would handily beat Trump in a general contest and he would restore the rightful order of things as POTUS. Sanders would destroy Trump but I fear he would bring continued disorder. What is needed now is a return to normalcy.
WTF?

Warren G Harding (speaking of corrupt bastards and a {!#%@} system) used Return to Normalcy as his campaign slogan in 1920. If you want to try to sell misleading nostalgic nostrums, and chimeras of a heroic past, you need to choose your allusions better.
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Re: Trump will win!

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scrmbldggs wrote:
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Everybody gets a shot?
When was that again?
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>> He would handily beat Trump in a general contest

450? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:06 am

Just to say, I'm already missing Upton. :(
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:04 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
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Everybody gets a shot?
When was that again?
Before the anti-vaxxers?
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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Just to say, I'm already missing Upton. :(
He left?

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He did. I believe scrmbldggs has the link . . .
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:32 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:04 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:50 am
Everybody gets a shot?
When was that again?
Before the anti-vaxxers?
ROFL

That tetanus story is crazy.
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Re: Trump will win!

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Balmoral95 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:22 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:06 am
Just to say, I'm already missing Upton. :(
He left?
As the StatMech ordered: viewtopic.php?f=80&t=30868&sid=3482d72c ... 42104b00bc :frown:
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:42 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:06 am
Just to say, I'm already missing Upton. :(
Wait, what?
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:45 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:42 am
Balmoral95 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:22 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:06 am
Just to say, I'm already missing Upton. :(
He left?
As the StatMech ordered: viewtopic.php?f=80&t=30868&sid=3482d72c ... 42104b00bc :frown:
Damn, I really liked him. Oh, well.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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