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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by Austin Harper » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:05 pm

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Alas, this video is blocked here in the USA on copyright grounds. Too bad, as I never watch SNL. But I was amused that WaPo declared Trump the winner over Baldwin, saying the actual SOTU was MUCH funnier than Baldwin's spoof of it.
Here is the legal version of the video, from SNL's YoutTube channel. There's no reason to pirate material that's freely available anyway!
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Post by TJrandom » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 am

lol... CNN is having a serious discussion about Trump being a Russian asset. Unbelievable! Wholly believable. :roll:

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lol... CNN is having a serious discussion about Trump being a Russian asset. Unbelievable! Wholly believable. :roll:
Ha, ha..........sarcasm, just doesn't work with Trump.
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Post by ElectricMonk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:03 am

Donnydaemmerung is here.
McCabe is obviously laying the groundwork for Mueller, making it harder to suppress the report.
Cohen's testimony will force the AG's hand to release material just to counter him.
And what we learn will open the door for other investigations, official or journalistic.

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Post by JO 753 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:11 pm

Then it iz time for me to ask - Wuts a dammerung?
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Post by ElectricMonk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:16 pm

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Then it iz time for me to ask - Wuts a dammerung?
It's the dimming of the light you get when a Space Wolf eats your sun.
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Post by JO 753 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:46 pm

Alrity then. So next iz Ragnarok followed by Fimbulwinter.

I shoud get a set uv winter tirez.
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JO 753 wrote:
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Alrity then. So next iz Ragnarok followed by Fimbulwinter.

I shoud get a set uv winter tirez.
Even better:
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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:47 pm

Yeah! You could keep that in the trunk of your tank. :lol:
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:54 am

Those zany and crazy Germans! Once they get get stuck on a really bad idea, they simply can't drop it.
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:59 am

JO 753 wrote: Then it iz time for me to ask - Wuts a dammerung?
"Donnydämmerung" is a play on the German word "Götterdämmerung", which sort of means Twilight (downfall) of the Gods. and was an opera by Wagner.

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Post by JO 753 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:55 am

Wut wuz old iz new agen. The past repeated infinitely.

We will start hearing All Along The Watch Tower in our hedz.
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Post by landrew » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:13 pm

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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:07 pm

Kinda long, but if you have the patience and the stomach, you can plumb the full depths of Manafort's depravity. (My God! It had {!#%@} well BETTER BE the full depths. I don't see how a human being can sink any lower, short of actually being the reincarnation of Genghis Khan and Hitler.)
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Post by Gord » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:14 pm

landrew wrote:
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Trump's hands aren't that big.

He's also not that cute.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:15 pm

The whole cabal gets too much "respect." Our legal system is set up to let guilty people get off. It has its pros and cons when dealing with average folks and the innocent folks and even guilty folks. Doesn't work too well when the goal of those finally caught are to subvert the system using its very protections against itself. Free Speech to subvert free speech and so forth. Our system is being abused. Hard to assess the abuse that would occur with "special rules" for the professional/dedicated subverter.
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Post by TJrandom » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:24 am

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:07 pm
Kinda long, but if you have the patience and the stomach, you can plumb the full depths of Manafort's depravity. (My God! It had {!#%@} well BETTER BE the full depths. I don't see how a human being can sink any lower, short of actually being the reincarnation of Genghis Khan and Hitler.)
Sick indeed... I had no idea that such demons existed.

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Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:17 am

I hear they teach in church about such...
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TJrandom wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:24 am
Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:07 pm
Kinda long, but if you have the patience and the stomach, you can plumb the full depths of Manafort's depravity. (My God! It had {!#%@} well BETTER BE the full depths. I don't see how a human being can sink any lower, short of actually being the reincarnation of Genghis Khan and Hitler.)
Sick indeed... I had no idea that such demons existed.
Will we now perhaps get some traction for women and black people? I wonder. Will they stop dismissing MeToo and Black Lives Matter as just a bunch of whiny women and African-Americans? I wonder. But at least some of the privileged white male bastards will be made slightly uncomfortable, like

Epstein

and

Kraft

and

Acosta.

Dare we hope Trump will be on this hotseat soon? A poster sent me by a friend this morning shows Trump and an evangelical saying good-bye to each other with "See ya later, fornicator." "After while, pedophile." (I hope the memory of Bill Haley's 1950s R&R classic isn't completely lost to the younger generation.)
“It is certainly sad and regrettable that so many innocent people died…Stalin was absolutely adamant on making doubly sure: spare no one…I don’t deny that I supported that view. I was simply not able to study every individual case…It was hard to draw a precise line where to stop.”

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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:35 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:15 pm
The whole cabal gets too much "respect." Our legal system is set up to let guilty people get off. It has its pros and cons when dealing with average folks and the innocent folks and even guilty folks. Doesn't work too well when the goal of those finally caught are to subvert the system using its very protections against itself. Free Speech to subvert free speech and so forth. Our system is being abused. Hard to assess the abuse that would occur with "special rules" for the professional/dedicated subverter.
Alas, bobbo, I fear you are right about all this. And it depresses me. The mechanism that moves this cabal is what C. Wright Mills used to call (accurately!) the Power Elite. Rich, well-connected people find it very easy to arrange to deal with an "understanding" prosecutor or judge who feels their pain (but not the pain of their victims).
“It is certainly sad and regrettable that so many innocent people died…Stalin was absolutely adamant on making doubly sure: spare no one…I don’t deny that I supported that view. I was simply not able to study every individual case…It was hard to draw a precise line where to stop.”

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Post by TJrandom » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:45 am

I do wonder which prison gang Manafort will obtain protection from - the blacks who he used as racial pawns, but to whom he offered the sexual services of his wife - or the neo-Nazi skin heads (with whom I believe he might share the most, but) who might castrate him for the same.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:45 am

What they feel is outright cash..........or old "in group" solidarity and affection. Ha, ha.......hard to figure out how to get citizen advisory boards to review such deals? That deal with the child molester making news right now..........I mean........"Have you no decency" does come to mind. Talking about the prosecutor....not the perp.
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Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:52 pm

Maybe not only cold hard cash but also soft warm flesh. Reportedly, involved lawyer and (as per one accuser) frequent visitor Derpshowitz was mentioned in the mix...
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:04 pm

Old men need love too................or at least appreciate it.

So I'm told.
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I do wonder which prison gang Manafort will obtain protection from - the blacks who he used as racial pawns, but to whom he offered the sexual services of his wife - or the neo-Nazi skin heads (with whom I believe he might share the most, but) who might castrate him for the same.
Hey, TJ! You've got a good theme for a lottery. If he's smart, he'll stick with the blacks. There are a lot more of them, as they are much more likely to be convicted and/or serve time than mere Nazis, who, after all, are just good ol' American boys.
“It is certainly sad and regrettable that so many innocent people died…Stalin was absolutely adamant on making doubly sure: spare no one…I don’t deny that I supported that view. I was simply not able to study every individual case…It was hard to draw a precise line where to stop.”

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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:45 am
What they feel is outright cash..........or old "in group" solidarity and affection. Ha, ha.......hard to figure out how to get citizen advisory boards to review such deals? That deal with the child molester making news right now..........I mean........"Have you no decency" does come to mind. Talking about the prosecutor....not the perp.
Aha! I caught the allusion to Welch's riposte to ol' Sen. "Tail Gunner" Joe McCarthy. My God! That really dates us both, doesn't it?
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Yes indeed. Love those old films.................................. heh, heh.
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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 am

Just to answer the question on everybody's mind as the Mueller report is due out: What can they get Trump on?
“It is certainly sad and regrettable that so many innocent people died…Stalin was absolutely adamant on making doubly sure: spare no one…I don’t deny that I supported that view. I was simply not able to study every individual case…It was hard to draw a precise line where to stop.”

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Just for grins, I sent the Paul Manafort cuck link off to snopes, asking Is he? :lol: I doubt they will touch it, but maybe... :mrgreen:

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Just for grins, I sent the Paul Manafort cuck link off to snopes, asking Is he? :lol: I doubt they will touch it, but maybe... :mrgreen:
Actually, they might. I'll check it over the next few days. I'm confident of this information. And today, we've heard Manafort's lawyers say that it would be unconscionable to sentence him to more than 10 years in prison. But, of course, with a 10-year sentence, he might be out on parole in just three years or less. That's not enough, folks. We need him in jail until he's at least 80 years old, so maybe a 90-year sentence would do it.
“It is certainly sad and regrettable that so many innocent people died…Stalin was absolutely adamant on making doubly sure: spare no one…I don’t deny that I supported that view. I was simply not able to study every individual case…It was hard to draw a precise line where to stop.”

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Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:42 am
TJrandom wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:38 am
Just for grins, I sent the Paul Manafort cuck link off to snopes, asking Is he? :lol: I doubt they will touch it, but maybe... :mrgreen:
Actually, they might. I'll check it over the next few days. I'm confident of this information. And today, we've heard Manafort's lawyers say that it would be unconscionable to sentence him to more than 10 years in prison. But, of course, with a 10-year sentence, he might be out on parole in just three years or less. That's not enough, folks. We need him in jail until he's at least 80 years old, so maybe a 90-year sentence would do it.
I didn't have doubts, but rather thought that snopes might give it a wider audiance. They might decline to use it, given the content.

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Post by TJrandom » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:32 pm

Watching CNN - past midnight for me... The Cohen House Oversight Committee hearing is off to a rather rocky start, with Republicans trying to stop and disparage the Cohen testimony.
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That was to be expected...
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Cohen on Trump: He is a racist, he is a con man, and he is a cheat

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Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:25 pm

I just listened to one Reptilian questioner* who led up to his rather unrelated question with a litany of "Cohen's lies and wrongdoings". TJ, sorry to intrude on your nightmares, but is that how all of them behaved? Spewing accusations and propaganda instead of sensibly and honestly participating in a hearing of this magnitude?


* ETA That questioner (Gibbs?) then ceded his remaining time in which Jordan tried to come off as smart and tough. Cohen stumped him royally with his answer (relating to who actually started this entire sorry mess - Cohen himself, when he made Trump aware that there was a handful of people who'd vote for him and so Cohen started a website in 2011...)

Here's also the whole hearing live for the moment.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:45 pm

Best line so far: "I did for 10 years what you are doing now: protecting and trying to cover up for Donald Trump." Nobody dropped a beat, and the beat goes on. man....those republicans surely need to be voted out of office: for the good of America.
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How about (paraphrased) 'Today's hearing is unduly raising the deficit and preventing desperately needed border protection denied by Democrats?' :laff:
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TJrandom wrote:
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Watching CNN - past midnight for me... The Cohen House Oversight Committee hearing is off to a rather rocky start, with Republicans trying to stop and disparage the Cohen testimony.
:pc:
They did exactly the same thing to John Dean back in 1973. As everyone said, "We know WHAT Dean is (or was then; he's a much nicer person now)." But his claims about the current issues have not been refuted, and he has corroborating evidence for some of it." (In Dean's case, of course, much MORE corroboration was soon to follow.)
“It is certainly sad and regrettable that so many innocent people died…Stalin was absolutely adamant on making doubly sure: spare no one…I don’t deny that I supported that view. I was simply not able to study every individual case…It was hard to draw a precise line where to stop.”

Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Skryabin (“Molotov”)