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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:40 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:36 pm
Bobby Rush, Chicago, protest vote, argued that King should have been censured.

I agree with him.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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Christ, some people are stupid. They shouldn’t drive and chew gum at the same time:
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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:30 am

whoops, there goes the centerpiece of the Democrats' strategy re:Trump's abuses of power and unfitness for office - recall that the Dems' strategy, encapsualted by the slogan "It's Mueller time," is to wait for, and depend on Mueller's report . . .

enter right-wing activist Bill Barr, champion of authoritarianism, er, expansive executive power, and Trump advocate, who sought a job as a Trump lawyer and who will be confirmed shortly instead as Attorney General . . . and who today told Senators that they will not be receiving Mueller's report but rather a report from Barr himself

uh oh
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:32 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:40 pm
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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Bobby Rush, Chicago, protest vote, argued that King should have been censured.

I agree with him.
I think it is a bit of a charade: King hasn't said or done anything significantly worse than Trump has . . .
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:43 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:32 am
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:40 pm
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:36 pm
Bobby Rush, Chicago, protest vote, argued that King should have been censured.

I agree with him.
I think it is a bit of a charade: King hasn't said or done anything significantly worse than Trump has . . .
Democrats hold the House, though. They can do something about him and a censur is harsher.

But mostly symbolic. If nothing else censur and then hold the vote on white supremacy. Again, symbolic but making a statement.

King is an ass yet keeps getting re-elected. That’s the fault of the voters who either don’t care or don’t pay attention.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:47 am

Too much attention on King, which allows white nationalism to run free elsewhere, like in the White House and throughout the GOP. This is all about cleaning up the GOP's image for 2020.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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Too much attention on King, which allows white nationalism to run free elsewhere, like in the White House and throughout the GOP. This is all about cleaning up the GOP's image for 2020.
Indeed.... and the Barr hearings are straight out of that playbook.

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:47 am
Too much attention on King, which allows white nationalism to run free elsewhere, like in the White House and throughout the GOP. This is all about cleaning up the GOP's image for 2020.
I agree that Republicans who voted for this measure are trying to cleanup the image of the party. But they won’t turn on Trump besides some ineffectual handwringing because they don’t want to piss off his base (and those who support his racism but covertly).

This is what the Republican Party is. It’s a {!#%@} shame considering what it was founded on.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:30 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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Too much attention on King, which allows white nationalism to run free elsewhere, like in the White House and throughout the GOP. This is all about cleaning up the GOP's image for 2020.
and the alternative is what?

The real life alterntive is to ignore King and do nothing. Cleaning is good. The action "should" directly result in King losing his seat and being replaced by a Dumbo.

how can anyone not agree?
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Re: Trump will win!

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Re: Trump will win!

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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:26 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:33 pm
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Damnit....got my hopes up!!
:D
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:56 pm

Trump and Pence really ought to be removed by a single stroke. You don't want a useful idiot replaced by a willing stooge.

.......I know, too much to ask for.

"If Trump were smart.........he'd plea deal leaving office for no charges filed? ((gotta do that "early"...not after 2 years of colluding to avoid it))...............But the premise tells it all.
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Damn government is too big, who needs all those workers?????!!!!!!??????

Apparently enough so that they are being recalled/made essential.

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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Did I dream that Trump in the Whitehouse served cold burgers and fries on silver salvers to footballers whilst Abe Lincoln looked down from above?
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Unpresidented? Wonderful line, yours or anothers, SM?
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Darren Wilshak wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:11 pm
Did I dream that Trump in the Whitehouse served cold burgers and fries on silver salvers to footballers whilst Abe Lincoln looked down from above?
Nope, that actually happened.

Upon reflection I decided I didn’t have a problem with it. After all, that’s what I wanted when I was 18-22. But the cheapskate could’ve sprang for surf ‘n turf.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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Post by Darren Wilshak » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:25 pm

Someone quipped that he was going to make Taco Bell pay for it all. 300 burgers, or was it 1,000 burgers. I think an heroic-Soviet era type propaganda poster should be made depicting its historic occurrence, Jeff.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:32 pm

Darren Wilshak wrote:
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300 burgers, or was it 1,000 burgers.
Hamberders, please.
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How’s this?
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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:32 pm

Darren Wilshak wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:11 pm
Did I dream that Trump in the Whitehouse served cold burgers and fries on silver salvers to footballers whilst Abe Lincoln looked down from above?
No, that happened, although Frederick Douglass was there, doing better and better.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:33 pm

Darren Wilshak wrote:
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Unpresidented? Wonderful line, yours or anothers, SM?
Not mine, Code Pink I believe, distributing the "news" all over DC.
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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:30 am
whoops, there goes the centerpiece of the Democrats' strategy re:Trump's abuses of power and unfitness for office - recall that the Dems' strategy, encapsualted by the slogan "It's Mueller time," is to wait for, and depend on Mueller's report . . .

enter right-wing activist Bill Barr, champion of authoritarianism, er, expansive executive power, and Trump advocate, who sought a job as a Trump lawyer and who will be confirmed shortly instead as Attorney General . . . and who today told Senators that they will not be receiving Mueller's report but rather a report from Barr himself

uh oh
Democrats are stupid beyond belief if they let him get away with this. They can filibuster everything else McConnell wants to do, even if they can't filibuster this nomination.

And now the House Dems have cracked and are negotiating with Trump over the Wall. As I've posted several places and in notes to Senators Leahy and Sanders and Representative Welch, if they give Trump even a small part of what he wants in order to open the government, he'll soon be back to get the REST of what he wants, threatening to shut it down again, and having proved that the Democrats are a bunch of wimps who won't stand up to him. I hope Nancy Pelosi is as stubborn and vindictive on this issue as she is with the rebels in the Party who didn't want her as Speaker.
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The true meaning of the House vote against white nationalism:



Chuck Johnson explainer here, yes, he's also a Holocaust denier: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... r-has.html
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Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:44 pm
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:30 am
whoops, there goes the centerpiece of the Democrats' strategy re:Trump's abuses of power and unfitness for office - recall that the Dems' strategy, encapsualted by the slogan "It's Mueller time," is to wait for, and depend on Mueller's report . . .

enter right-wing activist Bill Barr, champion of authoritarianism, er, expansive executive power, and Trump advocate, who sought a job as a Trump lawyer and who will be confirmed shortly instead as Attorney General . . . and who today told Senators that they will not be receiving Mueller's report but rather a report from Barr himself

uh oh
Democrats are stupid beyond belief if they let him get away with this. They can filibuster everything else McConnell wants to do, even if they can't filibuster this nomination.

And now the House Dems have cracked and are negotiating with Trump over the Wall. As I've posted several places and in notes to Senators Leahy and Sanders and Representative Welch, if they give Trump even a small part of what he wants in order to open the government, he'll soon be back to get the REST of what he wants, threatening to shut it down again, and having proved that the Democrats are a bunch of wimps who won't stand up to him. I hope Nancy Pelosi is as stubborn and vindictive on this issue as she is with the rebels in the Party who didn't want her as Speaker.
Feinstein and Coons (no surprise there) were particularly terrible re: Barr.
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:40 pm
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Bobby Rush, Chicago, protest vote, argued that King should have been censured.

I agree with him.
The Democratic leadership, disagreeing with censuring King, has punted this to the ethics committee. The problem is a bit complicated in the sense that King's district just re-elected him - and his views are well known and protected by the First Amendment. The Democrats are concerned that with a censure of King for unpopular speech, even though the speech is deemed by most to be repugnant, a dangerous precedent would be set.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:33 pm
Darren Wilshak wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:12 pm
Unpresidented? Wonderful line, yours or anothers, SM?
Not mine, Code Pink I believe, distributing the "news" all over DC.
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Post by Balmoral95 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:33 am

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:44 pm
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:30 am
whoops, there goes the centerpiece of the Democrats' strategy re:Trump's abuses of power and unfitness for office - recall that the Dems' strategy, encapsualted by the slogan "It's Mueller time," is to wait for, and depend on Mueller's report . . .

enter right-wing activist Bill Barr, champion of authoritarianism, er, expansive executive power, and Trump advocate, who sought a job as a Trump lawyer and who will be confirmed shortly instead as Attorney General . . . and who today told Senators that they will not be receiving Mueller's report but rather a report from Barr himself

uh oh
Democrats are stupid beyond belief if they let him get away with this. They can filibuster everything else McConnell wants to do, even if they can't filibuster this nomination.

And now the House Dems have cracked and are negotiating with Trump over the Wall. As I've posted several places and in notes to Senators Leahy and Sanders and Representative Welch, if they give Trump even a small part of what he wants in order to open the government, he'll soon be back to get the REST of what he wants, threatening to shut it down again, and having proved that the Democrats are a bunch of wimps who won't stand up to him. I hope Nancy Pelosi is as stubborn and vindictive on this issue as she is with the rebels in the Party who didn't want her as Speaker.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:02 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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whoops, there goes the centerpiece of the Democrats' strategy re....................... and who today told Senators that they will not be receiving Mueller's report but rather a report from Barr himself
Ummmm.....please correct me if I'm wrong, and say nothing if I am totally correct and you are wrong, but isn't this the PROCEDURE called for by law that all AG's use? And didn't he say that he could indeed release the whole thing? We all know what Trump is and his Party before Country confederates want to do ((as they wish without check and balance and serving their AlreadyTooRich Masters rather than the American Public))...........but can we avoid being histerical?

Barr is about as qualified and as stand up guy as could be hoped for in these circumstances. I'm glad Trump didn't nominate his barber.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:33 pm
Darren Wilshak wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:12 pm
Unpresidented? Wonderful line, yours or anothers, SM?
Not mine, Code Pink I believe, distributing the "news" all over DC.
Actually it was The Yes Men: http://www.theyesmen.org/democracyawakensinaction

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Damn, it sounds so plausible!
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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:49 am

Example of the way news distorts. From several media outlets I've read that Pelosi has rescinded the invitation to Trump to deliver his SOTU message in person. In fact, she suggested a postponement.

Now, this is really a brilliant strategy for her. If Trump wants to play hardball, she can do it, too. But she needs to clarify immediately that, as the person bearing responsibility for the event, she cannot in good conscience allow it to proceed under these circumstances. And that's the end of it. Trump has no legal authority to address Congress in person. No President did so for a full century from 1800 to 1913. Maybe getting Trump's balls in a vice will bring him around. Nothing else will. (If, that is, he has any balls. There seems to be room for doubt.)
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:58 am

Trump is apparently raging, per Maggie Haberman in NY Times, in the White House, doing his Dumb Macbeth role. (“We are getting crushed! Why can’t we get a deal?” Trump reportedly said to Tea Party chief of staff Mick Mulvaney.) Trump has made many miscalculations in adopting a Gingrichian approach here, not least of which is "misunderestimating" Pelosi. Pelosi can count, and this week's Pew poll numbers, which show almost no support for a compromise on the wall, from both sides but more so from the "no wall" side, must be in her mind.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:19 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:49 am
Maybe getting Trump's balls in a vice will bring him around. Nothing else will. (If, that is, he has any balls. There seems to be room for doubt.)
I support Pelosi's action and agree it could have been even stronger: deny access to Congress during any "shut-down."........but its each side playing to their supporters. I don't see such action as putting Trumps balls in a vice. He prefers tweets to begin with and no doubt could easily use that as an alternative. "SOTU: I've Made America Great Again. Dumbocrats: so sad."

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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:19 pm
Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:49 am
Maybe getting Trump's balls in a vice will bring him around. Nothing else will. (If, that is, he has any balls. There seems to be room for doubt.)
I support Pelosi's action and agree it could have been even stronger: deny access to Congress during any "shut-down."........but its each side playing to their supporters. I don't see such action as putting Trumps balls in a vice. He prefers tweets to begin with and no doubt could easily use that as an alternative. "SOTU: I've Made America Great Again. Dumbocrats: so sad."

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Pelosi suggested Trump could make his SOTU address from his own office. Maybe he'll try that!
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:00 pm

Polling continues to be bad for Trump, as playing to his base doesn't look like the best strategy (after all, by holding just his base, Trump loses bigly in 2020): "57 percent of voters say they won’t support Trump in 2020". OTOH if what Trump seeks is to head up a white nationalist mass movement with paramilitary overtones, and to grift what he can, the strategy is apt enough.
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