Palestinian Kids at US Schools

[Tom Palven]

Program enables Palestinian students to study at top US schools:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featu ... 27408.html

[OutOfBreath]

Good for them!

Peace
Dan

[Matthew Ellard]

The program is Palestinian.
"The $2m project was launched by Taawon, the largest Palestinian non-profit organisation committed to local development."

Tom will now tell us about the Libertarian Party's policy concerning public education. ( They want to get rid of public education)

"As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others........Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/

[Tom Palven]

The program is Palestinian.
"The $2m project was launched by Taawon, the largest Palestinian non-profit organisation committed to local development."

Tom will now tell us about the Libertarian Party's policy concerning public education. ( They want to get rid of public education)

"As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others........Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/

Darn, you got me now. I wouldn't quibble with that statement one bit.

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to, as Mark Twain, another one of my heroes (note that Mike Pompeo isn't on the list) did when he enabled the first black student to attend Yale law school.

[Matthew Ellard]

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

You can't even spell education.

"Your honour, I rest my case..."

[Tom Palven]

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

You can't even spell education.

"Your honour, I rest my case..."

Grass is often green. No, Agent 008?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvY3kRWuyIM

[Matthew Ellard]

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

You can't even spell education.

Grass is often green.

It would seem your parents saved a couple of bucks on your primary school education, concerning spelling.

Thankfully Australia's free public education system has a national minimum standard.

[Tom Palven]

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

You can't even spell education.

Grass is often green.

It would seem your parents saved a couple of bucks on your primary school education, concerning spelling.

Thankfully Australia's free public education system has a national minimum standard.

So, Agent 008, you'll take a pass on whether grass is often green or not rather than agree with anything that I say.

[Matthew Ellard]

So, Agent 008, you'll take a pass on whether grass is often green or not rather than agree with anything that I say.

Write that down again as a coherent sentence. Your lack of education is showing again.

[Tom Palven]

So, Agent 008, you'll take a pass on whether grass is often green or not rather than agree with anything that I say.

Write that down again as a coherent sentence. Your lack of education is showing again.

I've asked before, but haven't gotten your thoughts about this yet, Agent 008:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html

[Matthew Ellard]

I've asked before, but haven't gotten your thoughts about this yet,
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html

"The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party"

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

Next question.

[Tom Palven]

I've asked before, but haven't gotten your thoughts about this yet,
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html

"The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party"

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

Next question.

The link I copied is to the summary, but the link in the first sentence of the summary goes to the 3-part series that names names and lays out verifiable facts.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html

You have stated that my links to Wikipedia articles about number of US military bases and military operations and so on and other sources I've cited are all nonsense, too, but while you claim to be a scialist, your positioms are neoconservative.

Is there any position at all that Michael Pompeo, Bibi Netanyahu, William Krystol, Sean Hannity, or James Clapper takes that you don't support, Agent 008?

While your blanket condemnation of the linked website could have merit, you haven't refuted anything the article said to support your opinion.

Wikipedia effectively says that the World Socialist Website is a legitimate news source, but then again, you dispute Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Socialist_Web_Site

[Matthew Ellard]

Tom Palven's latest conspiracy claim and "evidence".

"The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party"
"... the World Socialist Web Site documented an unprecedented influx of intelligence and military operatives into the Democratic Party"
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html

The link I copied is to the summary, but the link in the first sentence of the summary goes to the 3-part series that names names and lays out verifiable facts.

You are lying again. Not one name of a CIA person in the Democrat party, is given. I don't think you have actually read your own link and you are lying again.

Set out below the three most compelling facts from the article that the CIA has taken over the Democratic Party using secret operatives and intelligence officers.

You can't do this, can you?

[Matthew Ellard]

Is there any position at all that Michael Pompeo, Bibi Netanyahu, William Krystol, Sean Hannity, or James Clapper takes that you don't support, Agent 008?

You are slightly retarded right?

1)I started the anti-"Bibi" Netanyahu threads.

2) We don't get US TV hosts Sean Hannity or William Krystol in Australia, as Australia is not part of the USA as you keep getting confused about.

3) What is Michael Pompeo's "position" that I'm meant to have an opinion on? You haven't got a clue what you are even claiming.

Sorry Tom. You have a low IQ and you can't string coherent claims together. You get confused about the difference between Australia and the USA and think people overseas see your domestic TV shows. We don't. Get a friend to proof read your next couple posts, so you can stop making these really obvious mistakes. You won't look like such an idiot if you do this.

[Tom Palven]

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

Wikipedia regards it as a legitimate news source, and active CIA Agents are SECRET police and would not be running for office as active CIA Agents.

Calling it conspiracy crap nonsense doesn't necessarily make it so in my book, coming for a guy to wants to inprsion Snowden, Manning, and Assange, guys who have exposed your lying CIA heroes.

[Matthew Ellard]

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

.....active CIA Agents are SECRET police and would not be running for office as active CIA Agents.

So..... your bull-{!#%@} conspiracy article that names CIA officers who penetrated the Democrat Party, doesn't actually name one CIA officer who penetrated the Democrat Party?

Did it ever occur to you that you suffer Dunning Kruger Syndrome?

"In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is."

[Tom Palven]

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

.....active CIA Agents are SECRET police and would not be running for office as active CIA Agents.

So..... your bull-{!#%@} conspiracy article that names CIA officers who penetrated the Democrat Party, doesn't actually name one CIA officer who penetrated the Democrat Party?

Did it ever occur to you that you suffer Dunning Kruger Syndrome?

"In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is."

Here's an article about people you love, nazi control-freak scum Pompeo and Haspel, along with CIA liars John Brennan and James Clapper who belong in prison, while the true heroes Snowden, Assange, and Manning, who expose their lies, you want to put in prison:
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archive ... r-problem/

Aren't you a little bit ashamed of yourself Agent 008?

[Matthew Ellard]

Here's an article..........

I wouldn't wipe my arse on yet another Ron Paul conspiracy theory claim.

Aren't you a little bit ashamed of yourself Agent 008?

No Tom. I'm simply laughing at you.

Sooooo....Tom. Set down for us all the evidence you and Ron Paul have, that proves the CIA runs the world.

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[Tom Palven]

Sooooo....Tom. Set down for us all the evidence you and Ron Paul have, that proves the CIA runs the world.

I've provided lots of evidence with regard to Bush, Obama, and Trump that points to the CIA running the US Deep State and thus the world.

But first things first, the US. Just a small case in point:

As I've said before, Trump was mandated by law to release the CIA Kennedy files but said, in effect, that the CIA wouldn't let him.

Trump now says that he want to talk to Kim Jong Un.

If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?


While this alone won't prove that there is a Deep State making policy, would you agree that this would be evidence of that?

[Matthew Ellard]

I've provided lots of evidence with regard to Bush, Obama, and Trump that points to the CIA running the US Deep State and thus the world.

Nope. You haven't provided one iota of evidence.

As I've said before, Trump was mandated by law to release the CIA Kennedy files but said, in effect, that the CIA wouldn't let him.

It is your beloved Trump who appointed the director of the CIA, you complete idiot! Do you know anything about your own country at all?

[Matthew Ellard]

If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?

....or Trump changed his mind.

Are you going to also claim that: because Trump changed his mind and isn't going to make "Mexico pay for the wall" that the CIA must run the world?

You really are very dumb.

[Tom Palven]

If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?

....or Trump changed his mind.

Are you going to also claim that: because Trump changed his mind and isn't going to make "Mexico pay for the wall" that the CIA must run the world?

You really are very dumb.

The old saw is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and if Trump really wants to make peace with Putin in Syria and with Kim Jong-Un, that's great:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/03/tru ... rom-syria/

However, I fully expect that if Trump seriously attempts to make peace with either Russia or North Korea, or with Iran, that the Deep State/MIC will make him an offer that he can't refuse.

[bobbo_the_Pragmatist]

TV just said that Saudi Arabia sends 70K students per year to study "in the West" and these kiddies come home and want to change Saudi society to be more like the West. This interplays with all the reforms the new King is busy setting up. He wants to empower himself of course but that means getting the worst of the corruption, and the worst of the religion, out of government (ie: him). I dunno. sounds to me like he doesn't want to live all that long.

[Tom Palven]

The old saw is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and if Trump really wants to make peace with Putin in Syria and with Kim Jong-Un, that's great:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/03/tru ... rom-syria/

However, I fully expect that if Trump seriously attempts to make peace with either Russia or North Korea, or with Iran, that the Deep State/MIC will make him an offer that he can't refuse.

The US will remain in Syria. Surprise, surprise.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKCN1HC2DP

Now let's see if the deep state allows Trump to talk to Kim Jong-un.

"Commander-in-Chief" has become a joke.

[Tom Palven]

Sooooo....Tom. Set down for us all the evidence you and Ron Paul have, that proves the CIA runs the world.

I've provided lots of evidence with regard to Bush, Obama, and Trump that points to the CIA running the US Deep State and thus the world.

But first things first, the US. Just a small case in point:

As I've said before, Trump was mandated by law to release the CIA Kennedy files but said, in effect, that the CIA wouldn't let him.

Trump now says that he want to talk to Kim Jong Un.

If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?


While this alone won't prove that there is a Deep State making policy, would you agree that this would be evidence of that?

Of course Trump could have simply changed his mind, but this is another little dot among multitudes of dots that can be connected, many of which I've mentioned previously.

[Upton_O_Goode]

"As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others........Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/

Couldn't help putting that in bold. That's the libertarian view, all right. And any attempt to keep parents from whaling the tar out of their kids would be looked on as "interference." (Get those meddling mandated reporters like doctors, teachers, and nurses out of our sacred family life.)

[Matthew Ellard]

".......Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/

Couldn't help putting that in bold. That's the libertarian view, all right. And any attempt to keep parents from whaling the tar out of their kids would be looked on as "interference." (Get those meddling mandated reporters like doctors, teachers, and nurses out of our sacred family life.)

The hilarious irony is that Tom Palven can't spell the word "education" himself under his own policy.

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

viewtopic.php?f=45&p=645919#p636374

[Tom Palven]

The old saw is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and if Trump really wants to make peace with Putin in Syria and with Kim Jong-Un, that's great:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/03/tru ... rom-syria/

However, I fully expect that if Trump seriously attempts to make peace with either Russia or North Korea, or with Iran, that the Deep State/MIC will make him an offer that he can't refuse.

Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pi ... E85F604169

[Matthew Ellard]

Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.

Poor little Tom and his Russian talk points.

The North Korean testing facility, North Korea "closed down" in May 2018 actually collapsed in early 2017.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/1 ... -200-dead/

The USA is not at war with North Korea. It is the United Nations and South Korea that is still technically at war with North Korea. Poor Tom doesn't accept UN intervention in US nationalism.

Poor little Tom, is following his Russian talk points, while pretending to be a "Libertarian" . Despite the "Libertarian" policy of non-interference overseas, Tom is even more in love with Trump for ending the war between North Korea and the USA which doesn't actually exist. Meanwhile North Korea is building a new test facility.

Why poor little Tom worried about the USA being attacked by North Korea's low yield, old style atom bomb on a 1940's missile that has no accuracy, is beyond comprehension. It is South Korea and Japan that are at risk. I guess Tom doesn't care, because they are just Asians.....If it makes sense to Trump and Sean Hannity , it's good enough for Tom.

[Tom Palven]

It is South Korea and Japan that are at risk. I guess Tom doesn't care, because they are just Asians.....If it makes sense to Trump and Sean Hannity , it's good enough for Tom. [/color]

The South Korean and Japanese governments are pleased with the summit rresults:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/06/12/sou ... t-results/

[Matthew Ellard]

The South Korean and Japanese governments are pleased with the summit rresults:

Both Japan and South Korea are complaining that Trump did not warn them that Trump was ending joint military maneuvers.

[Matthew Ellard]

Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.

You numb-skull. It took 10 days after your beloved Trump got tricked by North Korea, to meet Jong Un for a photo shoot , before he was advised that North Korea was continuing to test missile engines.

"Ten days after he told the US that North Korea was no longer a problem, Donald Trump has backflipped, saying the regime still presents an “extraordinary threat”.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-kor ... be1488f531

"No sign of North Korea dismantling nuclear weapons programme, Mattis admits"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... tis-admits

[Tom Palven]

Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.

You numb-skull. It took 10 days after your beloved Trump got tricked by North Korea, to meet Jong Un for a photo shoot , before he was advised that North Korea was continuing to test missile engines.

"Ten days after he told the US that North Korea was no longer a problem, Donald Trump has backflipped, saying the regime still presents an “extraordinary threat”.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-kor ... be1488f531

Matthew, I replied to your above comment over in the Associated Press thread in the Conspiracies section, where I think it belongs.