Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

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Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:41 pm

I didn't know/think that was "generally true" until reading the short article with that name/theme. Although, I probably came pretty close thinking that "scientists" were generally atheists and smarter than average....but I have met many intelligent people who do espouse religion...so, I thought it was emotional or environmental. But no: its brain power/bias/training..... etc. Gee...I think I just threw myself back in "some" doubt?===well, if you give the IQ test to a group and there is a marked difference.... how can the link be denied????

I do want to save the link and go back and read some of the linked articles too.

Problem solvers rather than problem acceptors? I like it.

http://www.realclearscience.com/article ... eople.html
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Why Are Smarter People Generally Less Religious?

Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:07 pm

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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by Gord » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:20 pm

I dunno, maybe they aren't. Here's one counter-view from roughly 4 years ago: http://strangenotions.com/atheists-higher-iqs/
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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:01 pm

An interesting thought experiment......given what intelligence "is"==>what "should be" a difference between the smart and the not quite there?
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Post by gorgeous » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:37 pm

you could say athiests in general are closed off from their own intuition and inner self...which non-athiests embrace....many athiests can't see the forest for the trees....
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:45 pm

Gorgeous: do you realize you are agreeing with the Link/OP? I assume that is not your intent..... but I don't trust my intuition.
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Post by gorgeous » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:52 pm

too bad....the great ones like Einstein did trust their intuition... I don't know if athiests are smarter...they may value formal education more.....they may also spend all their time debating pointlessly while more aware people are traveling out of body and learning about our multi-dimensional existence......there are all kinds of intelligence...there are doctors and scientists who have little understanding of how to treat people for instance...and don't forget evil...like the Nazi scientists...intelligence isn't everything....you need a well developed soul to be a great person...
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:56 pm

ahhhhhhh.......I'm pretty sure Einstein confirmed his intuition with "math" and is famous for not following his intuition on a number of issues.

Call it: alt facts.
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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by gorgeous » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:00 pm

seth -----"A person with several existences stressing intellectual achievement
might purposely then decide upon a life in which mental abilities are
beyond him, and the emotions allowed a full play that he had denied
them "earlier. " ---you need a good balance to be well developed as a human being...
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:06 pm

The OP is about a simple correlation, implying causation, between intelligence and atheism. All having ZIP to do with the other admirable qualities that distract you so. As you have no intuition towards this, the express emphasis on this relevance should be rewarding to you........ as a balanced person.
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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by gorgeous » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:10 pm

op is saying believers are dumb...typical...
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:12 pm

op says "Atheist Generally Smarter than Religious People." There are dumb people in both camps....and even the third camp of generally smarter people if you get the word play.
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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:13 pm

gorgeous wrote:seth -----" ---you need a good balance to be well developed as a human being...
How would an imaginary alien know what makes a good human being? Jane Roberts, who invented Seth the alien died of alcoholism. :D
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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by Aztexan » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:26 pm

Why are atheists generally smarter than religious people?

Because we is.
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Re: Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

Post by ElectricMonk » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:02 pm

I believe that the Flynn effect is based on better training methods rather than actually improved genes.
Atheist have less access to readymade answers and therefore need ways to judge different ideas and, more importantly, be able to live with the ambiguity of not knowing.
This is a sort of mental training that isn't necessary for cradle-to-grave believers.