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Bestiality... really

Post by TJrandom » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:03 pm

No longer, only in Texas… bestiality in the natural world. There ought to be a law….

… seals ARE having sex with penguins …

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... urore.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by octopus1 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:51 am

TJrandom wrote:No longer, only in Texas… bestiality in the natural world. There ought to be a law….

… seals ARE having sex with penguins …
Would it be ethical to cull the seals, if their behavior is learned? To prevent it becoming the norm? I'm in two minds (as usual!).

Yes - It's not a productive behavior. If it's a sexual morbidity, it could lead to a depletion in the seals' population and a disruption in the penguins' natural mating patterns. A mutually harmful cycle (Is that what it's called?)

No - {!#%@} happens.

I don't know. And the caption, featured of course in the Daily Mail ( :roll: ) with the word "Evil" in it, doesn't really clear things up any...

It's upsetting, but it needs more than the Daily Mail's idiotic moral blustering, to solve or understand what's going on.

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Post by digress » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:10 am

Just take a look at that penguin. Could anybody really blame the seal?
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Post by TJrandom » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:30 am

octopus1 wrote:.... If it's a sexual morbidity, it could lead to a depletion in the seals' population and a disruption in the penguins' natural mating patterns. A mutually harmful cycle (Is that what it's called?) ...
Yes indeed - traumatized penguins, scarred for life, unable to form an adult relationship with another penguin.

If it is a learned adaptation – just who taught it to them? I mean, really, just what have those scientists been up to? First the penguins, then the seals, and who knows what comes next… polar bears maybe?

And to think that these scientists had the gall to film it. No privacy whatsoever, perverts really.

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Post by TJrandom » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:32 am

digress wrote:Just take a look at that penguin. Could anybody really blame the seal?
Indeed… who`s to say that the penguin didn`t ask for it? I mean, with those cute little school children outfits they all seem to be wearing. For shame, for shame… :D

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Post by TJrandom » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:34 am

Raped as juveniles, they simply grew up knowing no better. They need our understanding, really… (bold added.)
Still, the attempts to mate with seals requires an explanation. The identity of a pair of repeat offenders held a clue. At least two of the sea otters had been previously held at the Monterey Bay Aquarium as part of their rehabilitation program for stranded and injured otters. There was nothing obviously wrong with these rehabbed otters, but the trouble they experienced early in their lives might have made them more likely assailants.
So you see… those nasty scientists have been at it again, now with sea otters. For shame… :oops:

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Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:39 am

Nothing's simply black and white anymore... 51 shades of grey's anatomy... brown's syndrome :roll:

...where was I going with that? :scratch:
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scrmbldggs wrote:Nothing's simply black and white anymore... 51 shades of grey's anatomy... brown's syndrome :roll:

...where was I going with that? :scratch:

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Post by Aztexan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:24 pm

It could be an evolutionary thing. Maybe the seals want black and white babies so killer whales will stop eating them.
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Post by TJrandom » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:27 pm

Aztexan wrote:It could be an evolutionary thing. Maybe the seals want black and white babies so killer whales will stop eating them.
I think you are on to something there... having missed their biology class, they don`t understand that evolution doesn`t quite work that way. :frown:

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Post by octopus1 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:59 am

TJrandom wrote:
octopus1 wrote:.... If it's a sexual morbidity, it could lead to a depletion in the seals' population and a disruption in the penguins' natural mating patterns. A mutually harmful cycle (Is that what it's called?) ...
Yes indeed - traumatized penguins, scarred for life, unable to form an adult relationship with another penguin.

If it is a learned adaptation – just who taught it to them? I mean, really, just what have those scientists been up to? First the penguins, then the seals, and who knows what comes next… polar bears maybe?

And to think that these scientists had the gall to film it. No privacy whatsoever, perverts really.
I assume that you're being facetious. No polar bears and penguins at the same pole... ;)

Interspecies sexual activity isn't something that is seen very often, or at least not documented very often. Naturally, it raises some interesting (and difficult) questions.

The first might be, how old are the seals? The second being, this is definitely not a photoshop job, right? I'm not casting aspersions, so much as I'm being expectedly skeptical...
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Post by TJrandom » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:15 am

octopus1 wrote:
TJrandom wrote:
octopus1 wrote:.... If it's a sexual morbidity, it could lead to a depletion in the seals' population and a disruption in the penguins' natural mating patterns. A mutually harmful cycle (Is that what it's called?) ...
Yes indeed - traumatized penguins, scarred for life, unable to form an adult relationship with another penguin.

If it is a learned adaptation – just who taught it to them? I mean, really, just what have those scientists been up to? First the penguins, then the seals, and who knows what comes next… polar bears maybe?

And to think that these scientists had the gall to film it. No privacy whatsoever, perverts really.
I assume that you're being facetious. No polar bears and penguins at the same pole... ;)

Interspecies sexual activity isn't something that is seen very often, or at least not documented very often. Naturally, it raises some interesting (and difficult) questions.

The first might be, how old are the seals? The second being, this is definitely not a photoshop job, right? I'm not casting aspersions, so much as I'm being expectedly skeptical...
Yes, all in jest... and no, I do not think that scientists taught this practice. But it was indeed news to me - having only personally witnessed such behavior in dogs humping, well, anything.

I believe the article suggested that these seals were juveniles… EDIT: "the seals may also be sexually inexperienced"

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Against nature: South African scientists have made four separate observations of individual Antarctic fur seals sexually assaulting adult king penguins as they tried to resist
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Post by TJrandom » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:25 am

Gord wrote:
Against nature: South African scientists have made four separate observations of individual Antarctic fur seals sexually assaulting adult king penguins as they tried to resist
Why does anyone read the Daily Fail?
I do - for my daily amusement....

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TJrandom wrote:But it was indeed news to me - having only personally witnessed such behavior in dogs humping, well, anything.
That just proves my long-held conviction that seals are just sea dogs.

But I've seen flies {!#%@} dead flies. The animal urge to {!#%@} is that deep.
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Major Malfunction wrote:
TJrandom wrote:But it was indeed news to me - having only personally witnessed such behavior in dogs humping, well, anything.
That just proves my long-held conviction that seals are just sea dogs.

But I've seen flies {!#%@} dead flies. The animal urge to {!#%@} is that deep.
I understand that you have been missing... haven`t been sneaking around seals now, have you?

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Post by digress » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:18 am

Careful, penguins will sometimes fight back. How else did you think seal got those scars?

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Several artist-attempts to show a seal/penguin hybrid….

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... g-sex.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by OlegTheBatty » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:38 pm

digress wrote:Careful, penguins will sometimes fight back. How else did you think seal got those scars?

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Yes, penguins can be nasty.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:51 pm

TJrandom wrote:Several artist-attempts to show a seal/penguin hybrid….

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... g-sex.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by octopus1 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:29 am

TJrandom wrote:Several artist-attempts to show a seal/penguin hybrid….

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... g-sex.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With a difficult General Election coming up in May, it's certainly interesting that the Daily Mail have been busying themselves with BS. Interesting, mind - Not necessarily appropriate :P
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