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Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by zeuzzz » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:30 am

How do you do this (UK) without starting a sweatshop in the third world? I've a few ideas for designs and some people have shown interest, but i've no experience in this area, and no single idea where to even start. Google is being useless, and a major rip off, so far. Anyone?
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Post by Major Malfunction » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:38 am

Google "silkscreen".
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Re: Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by Poodle » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:30 am

Also Google "starting a sweatshop in the first world".

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Post by Gord » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:30 am

Also google "getting students to make them in school". That's what we did when I was a kid. In hindsight, I don't understand why I've never seen a school try to raise money by selling t-shirts they print themselves that way.
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Re: Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:52 am

zeuzzz wrote:How do you do this (UK) without starting a sweatshop in the third world? I've a few ideas for designs and some people have shown interest, but i've no experience in this area, and no single idea where to even start. Google is being useless, and a major rip off, so far. Anyone?
Promotional T-Shirt manufacturers. UK
When a foreign band plays in the UK it sells the Merchandising rights to a merchandiser. The merchandiser will produce a short run of 5,000 to 50,000 various T-shirts using local industry promotional merchandise printers.

http://www.garmentprinting.co.uk/band-t ... inting-uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.razoruk.com/tshirt_printing_faq.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.indigoclothing.com/t-shirt-printing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your problem is distribution not printing
A merchandising promoter has 5,000 fans at a touring concert, five nights a week for five weeks. He has a "monopoly" and is almost guaranteed to sell his "short run". However you are looking to sell by retail outlet or internet. You need a better method or you will not make a dent. If you go to the street markets in the north end of London you will meet people who sell more of one product "in a day" than entire shops can in a year. I'd consider doing a "test run" or 'market research" at one of the bigger weekend markets.

When you order your "short run" of T-shirts, physically go into the shop and ask to see the exact t-shirt that will be used. I took a merchandiser here, to the small claims courts, as he "swapped' brands and I was able to push my thumb through the material and tear it. Another merchandiser printed 5,000 t-shirts the night before the first concert. They do it very quickly.
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Post by zeuzzz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:32 pm

Poodle wrote:Also Google "starting a sweatshop in the first world".
Thx for that, seemed like a great idea, but now I have the FBI on my ass, you douchebag.
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Post by zeuzzz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:33 pm

Major Malfunction wrote:Google "silkscreen".
I googled, but what link out of many was I supposed to end up at?
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Re: Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by zeuzzz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:37 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:How do you do this (UK) without starting a sweatshop in the third world? I've a few ideas for designs and some people have shown interest, but i've no experience in this area, and no single idea where to even start. Google is being useless, and a major rip off, so far. Anyone?
Promotional T-Shirt manufacturers. UK
When a foreign band plays in the UK it sells the Merchandising rights to a merchandiser. The merchandiser will produce a short run of 5,000 to 50,000 various T-shirts using local industry promotional merchandise printers.

http://www.garmentprinting.co.uk/band-t ... inting-uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.razoruk.com/tshirt_printing_faq.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.indigoclothing.com/t-shirt-printing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your problem is distribution not printing
A merchandising promoter has 5,000 fans at a touring concert, five nights a week for five weeks. He has a "monopoly" and is almost guaranteed to sell his "short run". However you are looking to sell by retail outlet or internet. You need a better method or you will not make a dent. If you go to the street markets in the north end of London you will meet people who sell more of one product "in a day" than entire shops can in a year. I'd consider doing a "test run" or 'market research" at one of the bigger weekend markets.

When you order your "short run" of T-shirts, physically go into the shop and ask to see the exact t-shirt that will be used. I took a merchandiser here, to the small claims courts, as he "swapped' brands and I was able to push my thumb through the material and tear it. Another merchandiser printed 5,000 t-shirts the night before the first concert. They do it very quickly.
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Re: Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by Monster » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:58 pm

zeuzzz wrote:
Major Malfunction wrote:Google "silkscreen".
I googled, but what link out of many was I supposed to end up at?
Come on, dude. You have to try harder than that. That response was just pitiful.
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Post by zeuzzz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:07 pm

Monster wrote: Come on, dude. You have to try harder than that. That response was just pitiful.
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Poodle wrote:Also Google "starting a sweatshop in the first world".
But ... he asked about England.
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Re: Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by Poodle » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:46 pm

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Poodle wrote:Also Google "starting a sweatshop in the first world".
But ... he asked about England.
:lol:

I'll get back to you when I've sorted out which of the few dozen possible meanings you mean.

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Poodle wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Poodle wrote:Also Google "starting a sweatshop in the first world".
But ... he asked about England.
:lol:

I'll get back to you when I've sorted out which of the few dozen possible meanings you mean.
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Post by zeuzzz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:32 pm

*whoosh*
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"Monty Python".

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Post by zeuzzz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:54 pm

If you would reply to some of my other threads in a more productive manner where you were just a complete dick first then maybe.

Otherwise hahahahahaha.
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zeuzzz wrote:If you would reply to some of my other threads in a more productive manner where you were just a complete dick first then maybe.

Otherwise hahahahahaha.
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zeuzzz wrote:If you would reply to some of my other threads in a more productive manner where you were just a complete dick first then maybe.

Otherwise hahahahahaha.
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:06 am

zeuzzz wrote: I've 5k on twitter, 100k on facebook, 80k on youtube, and 1 (me) on skeptic forum. I'll just set up a website using google checkouts once I've found a place to make them for a good price with a good quality. And I'll share monies here for people with good advise, obv.
I strongly suggest that you don't try sell one type of T-Shirt print, on its own on the internet. You would simply get "swamped" and have no "scale of economy" to make a profit margin.

I assume you are going to design something around McKenna. If so, "suss out" the McKenna's estate's current media profile. If this is "good", make several designs, contact his estate and offer the estate a profit-override to gain exclusive sales rights on their websites and media. Obtain their formal permission to license his name and his quotes, and right to use existing photographs from the photographer. His "quotes" are probably published and owned by Harpers Press, San Francisco. (otherwise you may be infringing on published works). Let them choose the designs. Let their established media exposure do the work for you.

If they say "No" well that means you probably can't quote McKenna or use his name on T-Shirts anyway as you may be infringing on a third party publisher's acquired copyright. Please remember that T-Shirt sales are an activity for profit and have no protection under "Fair use" for education purposes only.


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Another band handed a photograph of themselves to a record company. The photograph was used on an album cover. Three years later the photographer sued the record company, as the band never acquired the right to use the photo on record covers because the band hired the photographer to supply a photo for one magazine use only.

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Post by Gord » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:24 am

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Monster wrote:Come on, dude. You have to try harder than that. That response was just pitiful.
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Post by zeuzzz » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:13 pm

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Otherwise hahahahahaha.
Oh, and I apologize. I hadn't realized you weren't on ignore yet. Fixed.
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Take me off ignore plz.

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Re: Cheap printing of t-shirts?

Post by zeuzzz » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:51 pm

digress wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:And I'll share monies here for people with good advise, obv.
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Nope I'm doing this behinds gaias back. Money is an impediment to gaias fruition, I'm shredding what is left of my ego with this final monetized action.

Or something hippy like that, ya know. And sssh, gaia doesn't know about these other threads I'm involved with, you're spilling the beans.
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:16 am

zeuzzz wrote:And thanks Matt, taken onboard.
The problem is that Mr McKenna is dead. That means "no new photos" and that you have to license or seek permission to use existing photos, from either the estate or the photographer.

To get around this you could consider using a drawing. In the past, a record company got a "street portrait artist" to draw an image, for $50, based on existing photos, for a dead artist, who's estate refused to supply photos.

It's the quotes that seem to be the biggest problem, if you want to include quotes in your T-shirt designs. You probably will need to get formal permission.

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Matthew Ellard wrote:It's the quotes that seem to be the biggest problem, if you want to include quotes in your T-shirt designs. You probably will need to get formal permission.
Not if you sell them to the intended Burning Man audience. Out there in the desert they are free from the clutches of grid life. The best place to start serving Gaia and making a small fortune.
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