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why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:14 pm

just wondering what you think ?

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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:23 pm

Start with an assumption, then ask us to explain it?
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:46 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Start with an assumption, then ask us to explain it?
well I know there are people who do not care , so it is not an assumption . the questions are who and/or what kind , why , and actual percentages of the total pop.

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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Start with an assumption, then ask us to explain it?
well I know there are people who do not care , so it is not an assumption . the questions are who and/or what kind , why , and actual percentages of the total pop.
Do the work yourself.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Monster » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:13 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Start with an assumption, then ask us to explain it?
well I know there are people who do not care , so it is not an assumption . the questions are who and/or what kind , why , and actual percentages of the total pop.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:22 pm

I admittedly care more if I'm on the plane.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:24 pm

Perky blonde reporter comes to the scene of a "nose down" airplane crash. She trots up the NTSB guy in charge and chirps, "Who was the first one on the scene of the accident?"

The government guy looks at her for a second and then says, "The pilot."
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:21 pm

Rob Lister wrote:I admittedly care more if I'm on the plane.
good point , the people who would care the most ; the ones who really know why flying is not worth the risk . are not talking

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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:25 pm

I have several hundred thousand air miles, and only got killed once or twice.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:31 pm

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Rob Lister wrote:I admittedly care more if I'm on the plane.
good point , the people who would care the most ; the ones who really know why flying is not worth the risk . are not talking
I don't think I made that point.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Gord » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:50 am

Rob Lister wrote:
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Rob Lister wrote:I admittedly care more if I'm on the plane.
good point , the people who would care the most ; the ones who really know why flying is not worth the risk . are not talking
I don't think I made that point.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Matthew Ellard » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:30 am

Technically, it's quite simple.

Before the plane crash, everyone in the plane is worried about plane crashes. After the plane crash, no one is worried at all.

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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:48 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Technically, it's quite simple.

Before the plane crash, everyone in the plane is worried about plane crashes. After the plane crash, no one is worried at all.
Except Bruce Willis.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by kennyc » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:53 pm

And sometimes certain ones are looking forward to the plane crash......take the 9/11 hijackers for example...
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Post by kennyc » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:02 pm

Besides, it's all caused by fluoridated water. :lol:
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:19 pm

If a plane crashed in my yard, think what it would do to my rose bushes! There are consequences.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by kennyc » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:32 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:If a plane crashed in my yard, think what it would do to my rose bushes! There are consequences.
Yes! I was just thinking about that. Probably should discuss it with my therapist.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by digress » Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:14 pm

why do people really care about why people really do not care about plane crashes? please explain who and/or what kind , why , and actual percentages of the total pop.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:09 am

digress wrote:why do people really care about why people really do not care about plane crashes? please explain who and/or what kind , why , and actual percentages of the total pop.
I was thinking about mentioning relatives of victims . might be easier to list the ones who care , then those who don't .
but it just hit me ; perfect example of what I want to get at - the president of the USA , his plane would never do the things that cause most crashes . because the secret service does not want it to crash .
thanks for your comment , would never have stumbled on the idea without it

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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:...the president of the USA , his plane would never do the things that cause most crashes . because the secret service does not want it to crash .
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Austin Harper » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:08 pm

psychiatry is a scam wrote:the president of the USA , his plane would never do the things that cause most crashes . because the secret service does not want it to crash .
thanks for your comment , would never have stumbled on the idea without it
You mean his plane would never be flown by an amateur into conditions they weren't prepared for because they had overestimated their abilities? Yeah, you're probably right. I'm pretty sure they have professionals flying Air Force One.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by Austin Harper » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:13 pm

psychiatry is a scam wrote:good point , the people who would care the most ; the ones who really know why flying is not worth the risk . are not talking
What are you talking about? For cars, there is approximately one death per hundred million miles passengers travel. Not too shabby, eh? But for airplanes, there is approximately one death per 10 billion miles passengers travel. It's 100 times safer than traveling by car. And that doesn't even count all of the non-fatal car crashes every year where people are seriously injured.
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:31 pm

there are 3 kinds of lies : lies , damned lies , and statistics -
first I am guessing that the 10 billion figure comes from multiplying the miles by the number of people . i.e. 1k mile trip times 300 people on the plane .
I could be wrong ; but that is not important .
what is important is that the airline industry wants to prove flying is safer so they use distance . someone who wants to prove it is not would use the number of trips . for planes each takeoff and landing would be one trip (probably should add taxiing to and from the runway for a total of 3) - for cars each stop and start would be one trip - i.e. backing out of a driveway and stopping in the middle of the street would be one trip ; driving to the corner and stopping there would be another . or could use when people actually leave the car or plane as one trip .
use either criteria and the number of trips in a car per fatality would be billions of times higher then for planes .
these statistics would explain why people do not think about dying in a car .
the thing that really interests me though is why do people who are a lot smarter then me ; not see something that is so simple and obvious to me ? :dil:
oh - this has nothing to do with why people do not care

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Post by TJrandom » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:31 pm

I have well over a million air miles, and only used the chute once. With close to 50 years of driving, if averaged at about 20k miles a year, I`d have slightly fewer driving miles. But I have been in 4 accidents and have had to act defensively to avoid a few more (equivalent to that one chute use?). IMO – air travel is a whole lot safer. But it really doesn`t matter which is safer, because the two are generally not interchangeable.

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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:22 am

:burn:

I try to point out that airlines use miles traveled to prove flying is safe .
instead of using number of trips .
and you come back with how many miles you flew . so how many times have you flown , and how many times have you gone somewhere in a car ? (driving to the bar a block away counts as one trip / flying to Paris counts as one trip )
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Re: why people really do not care about plane crashes

Post by octopus1 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:39 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:there are 3 kinds of lies : lies , damned lies , and statistics -
first I am guessing that the 10 billion figure comes from multiplying the miles by the number of people . i.e. 1k mile trip times 300 people on the plane .
I could be wrong ; but that is not important .
what is important is that the airline industry wants to prove flying is safer so they use distance . someone who wants to prove it is not would use the number of trips . for planes each takeoff and landing would be one trip (probably should add taxiing to and from the runway for a total of 3) - for cars each stop and start would be one trip - i.e. backing out of a driveway and stopping in the middle of the street would be one trip ; driving to the corner and stopping there would be another . or could use when people actually leave the car or plane as one trip .
use either criteria and the number of trips in a car per fatality would be billions of times higher then for planes .
these statistics would explain why people do not think about dying in a car .
the thing that really interests me though is why do people who are a lot smarter then me ; not see something that is so simple and obvious to me ? :dil:
oh - this has nothing to do with why people do not care
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