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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by Tom Palven » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:09 am
What about not war at all but economic penalties for percieved national interests??...........or in your mind is that the same as war?

................and what "should" the USA do regarding Cuban/Russian/Chinese activities in South America?.........Let them have their way or is anything else......."war?"
What Jefferson said back in the day still stands as the best policy:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." --THOMAS JEFFERSON

McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, oil companies, and other businesses should invest all they want to anywhere they want to, and Bolton, Pompeo, Elliot Abrams, and the rest of the evil deep state control freaks should stay the fvck out of it.
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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by landrew » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:41 pm

Tom Palven wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:09 am
What about not war at all but economic penalties for percieved national interests??...........or in your mind is that the same as war?

................and what "should" the USA do regarding Cuban/Russian/Chinese activities in South America?.........Let them have their way or is anything else......."war?"
What Jefferson said back in the day still stands as the best policy:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." --THOMAS JEFFERSON

McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, oil companies, and other businesses should invest all they want to anywhere they want to, and Bolton, Pompeo, Elliot Abrams, and the rest of the evil deep state control freaks should stay the fvck out of it.
And they did. Plenty of American companies helped nazi germany rise to power.
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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by Tom Palven » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:54 pm

landrew wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:41 pm
Tom Palven wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:09 am
What about not war at all but economic penalties for percieved national interests??...........or in your mind is that the same as war?

................and what "should" the USA do regarding Cuban/Russian/Chinese activities in South America?.........Let them have their way or is anything else......."war?"
What Jefferson said back in the day still stands as the best policy:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." --THOMAS JEFFERSON

McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, oil companies, and other businesses should invest all they want to anywhere they want to, and Bolton, Pompeo, Elliot Abrams, and the rest of the evil deep state control freaks should stay the fvck out of it.
And they did. Plenty of American companies helped nazi germany rise to power.
Which private US companies supported or campaigned for Hitler?

Bolton, Abrams, et al would have fit right in with Goebbels and the rest of the Nazi deep state, not that is that especially relevant, either.
If one can be taught to believe absurdities, one can commit atrocities. --Voltaire

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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by landrew » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:59 pm

Tom Palven wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:54 pm
landrew wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:41 pm
Tom Palven wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:09 am
What about not war at all but economic penalties for percieved national interests??...........or in your mind is that the same as war?

................and what "should" the USA do regarding Cuban/Russian/Chinese activities in South America?.........Let them have their way or is anything else......."war?"
What Jefferson said back in the day still stands as the best policy:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." --THOMAS JEFFERSON

McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, oil companies, and other businesses should invest all they want to anywhere they want to, and Bolton, Pompeo, Elliot Abrams, and the rest of the evil deep state control freaks should stay the fvck out of it.
And they did. Plenty of American companies helped nazi germany rise to power.
Which private US companies supported or campaigned for Hitler?

Bolton, Abrams, et al would have fit right in with Goebbels and the rest of the Nazi deep state, not that is that especially relevant, either.
No charge this time, but I can't do all your research for you:
https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-american ... -nazis.php
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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:55 pm

TP: got anything relevant or is it catch phrases all the way down?
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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by Tom Palven » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:56 pm

Japanese shipowner contradicts Trump and his neocon warmonger henchmen:
https://news.antiwar.com/2019/06/14/jap ... er-attack/
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Re: Neocon Watch

Post by Tom Palven » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:57 am

Will Netanyahu and the neocon warmongers finally get their Shock and Awe on Iran?

Article by Eric Margolis:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/06/eri ... -the-gulf/
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