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911 'No Planes' Lunacy
I need therapy. For some insane reason I watched a bunch of 'there were no planes on 911' videos...and the worst aspect is not simply that ONE person out there is moron enough to think that way, but that entire legions of dolts actually believe the BS.
The ' nose out' video from Fox...the one where the nose of the plane seems to come out of the other side...seems intriguing at first. But it doesn't take more than a few minutes to debunk it. What is exiting the building is clearly expanding. It can in fact be seen in different shapes in all the 911 footage...and it is pure coincidence that for a split second in one video it just happens to have a shape similar to the plane nose.
But this one piece of footage then goes on to be the basis of an entire cottage industry of ever more loony conspiracy. I mean...the government must have faked all the other 36 videos of the impact, mustn't they. And 10,000 witnesses were all just imagining it. How does one argue with this sort of idiocy ? Should one even bother ?
The worst lunacy is the ( 5 million hits...for fecks sake ) video where some loon claims that a 'ball' hit the WTC, and then develops this lunacy to the point where the 'ball' is a reverse engineered anti-gravity device using alien technology from area 51. And all that based on nothing more than the fact that the CNN footage of the plane was grainy and didn't show the wings ( in fact it does in a few frames ). That is true conspiracy loon mind at work.....end up with something even harder to explain than the official version.
The ' nose out' video from Fox...the one where the nose of the plane seems to come out of the other side...seems intriguing at first. But it doesn't take more than a few minutes to debunk it. What is exiting the building is clearly expanding. It can in fact be seen in different shapes in all the 911 footage...and it is pure coincidence that for a split second in one video it just happens to have a shape similar to the plane nose.
But this one piece of footage then goes on to be the basis of an entire cottage industry of ever more loony conspiracy. I mean...the government must have faked all the other 36 videos of the impact, mustn't they. And 10,000 witnesses were all just imagining it. How does one argue with this sort of idiocy ? Should one even bother ?
The worst lunacy is the ( 5 million hits...for fecks sake ) video where some loon claims that a 'ball' hit the WTC, and then develops this lunacy to the point where the 'ball' is a reverse engineered anti-gravity device using alien technology from area 51. And all that based on nothing more than the fact that the CNN footage of the plane was grainy and didn't show the wings ( in fact it does in a few frames ). That is true conspiracy loon mind at work.....end up with something even harder to explain than the official version.
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These days conspiracies need video to be "believable". These dates back at least as far as the Waco shoot-out, when armored vehicle hits the compound walls and you "can see flames ejected!" If you freeze the vid at one point it does appear that some kind of flare can be seen. However, running the full sequence shows that a piece of trash happened to blow past the point of convergence, and then goes on. No flame to be seen.
And, of course, there's the Zapruder film.
And, of course, there's the Zapruder film.
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You don't. Just smile.... and vacate the area.Cygnus_X1 wrote:How does one argue with this sort of idiocy ? Should one even bother ?
But....it is worthwhile to recognize these people work, vote, raise families.....come here to post as well.
They are hoomans, as are we: the family of man. I always stop to examine if "I" have any such fantasies...and I've recognized a few from time to time. ..... In defense...maybe a wistful longing rather than an actual belief...but still, not very sensible if reality is your guide.
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missile into the pentagon, no plane, no plane in PA field...obvious...no plane parts, no luggage, no bodies... [ytube][/ytube]
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the remote viewers also saw the planes into the towers were remote controlled....stay in denial...
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----- like I said............
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[ytube][/ytube]
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What size should the pieces be gorgeous?
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"Gorgeous", you are very tedious.
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bigger than a phone book ...that's for sure...see any plane crash site...luggage , wings, bodies, engines are visible on a much bigger site... like this ----- [ytube][/ytube]
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was likely an air bomb at Pa field...no plane...
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I've never look at this no plane conspiracy...... so yes, most plane crashes leave parts behind. .... but I don't see why all crashes must do so. I assume the engine turbine blades were mostly found? I recall the Black Box was recovered as we had recordings of the cockpit being broken into?
What caused the big rut in Shanksville?
Where did all the ticketed people go????
You know....you can't "hang" a fraud on one isolated fact............and I'll bet without any research at all that larger parts were found...just not in the first 5 minutes???
G: what is the hardest evidence against the crash being faked?
What caused the big rut in Shanksville?
Where did all the ticketed people go????
You know....you can't "hang" a fraud on one isolated fact............and I'll bet without any research at all that larger parts were found...just not in the first 5 minutes???
G: what is the hardest evidence against the crash being faked?
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reporters who were there first said no plane parts were seen...bomb made rut.....were the 'ticketed people' in on it or murdered? FBI and others reported the calls on the planes never happened...faked... Ted Olson's Report of Phone Calls from Barbara Olson on 9/11: Three ...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ted-olson- ... 11.../8514
Apr 1, 2008 - 9 According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call ... alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 ...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ted-olson- ... 11.../8514
Apr 1, 2008 - 9 According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call ... alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 ...
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I remember seeing the mom of the 'let's roll' guy on every single tv channel sobbing.... crisis actress?...I thought then it was abnormal and a hoax that she needed to do back to back interviews and be on every channel like she was selling her role as grieving mom... ------
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/// fog of war. Mountain of evidence vs.... bad reporting on phone call. See the lack of balance?gorgeous wrote:reporters who were there first said no plane parts were seen/// of course not, that has already been agreed to
...bomb made rut...../// bombs don't make ruts
were the 'ticketed people' in on it or murdered? /// In on it for grins...or what??? Life long hide and seeks??? Silly.
FBI and others reported the calls on the planes never happened...faked... /// Link? aka: I don't believe you.
Ted Olson's Report of Phone Calls from Barbara Olson on 9/11: Three ...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ted-olson- ... 11.../8514 /// Ok....lets assume no phone call: so what??? Its the mountain, or the rut, of evidence otherwise.
Apr 1, 2008 - 9 According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call ... alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 ...
Second time: what is the strongest evidence in your mind against a fraudulent plane crash?
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the small crash site..no plane, bodies, luggage plane parts....duhhh........
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No Gorgeous: focus. You give the strongest evidence IN FAVOR OF a fake plane crash. I'm asking for the opposite. aka: how much do you really know about the issue as opposed to just being a tool.
Third time..... read for what it clearly says: what is the strongest evidence AGAINST this being a faked crash?
Third time..... read for what it clearly says: what is the strongest evidence AGAINST this being a faked crash?
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"By December 19, 2001, “the remains of the 40 passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers” had all been identified. (Steve Levin, “Flight 93 victims’ effects to go back to families,” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 12/30/2001)"
Plane parts too. Gorgeous: you simply ignore the refutation of the LIE you choose to believe.
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/shanksvi ... rash-site/
It appears to me you rely on "early reports" and totally ignore follow up actual investigation.
Silly.
Plane parts too. Gorgeous: you simply ignore the refutation of the LIE you choose to believe.
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/shanksvi ... rash-site/
It appears to me you rely on "early reports" and totally ignore follow up actual investigation.
Silly.
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planted plane parts....propaganda article...
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Link....and btw...."planted plane parts" sounds like evidence in favor of a fraud. Propaganda doesn't even make sense.
G: can you understand "anything" other than your set knee jerk response? So far: no... you can't. Rather humorous. Intellectually lazy conspiracy theorists...can't support/argue their own position, all you can do is howl your complaint.
Sucks to be you. I'm done. You got NOTHING.
G: can you understand "anything" other than your set knee jerk response? So far: no... you can't. Rather humorous. Intellectually lazy conspiracy theorists...can't support/argue their own position, all you can do is howl your complaint.
Sucks to be you. I'm done. You got NOTHING.
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Well, gorgeous, you've convinced me with your videos.
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yes, the govt puts out propaganda and now openly promote it... CIA Will Now Openly Propagandize Americans » Alex Jones' Infowars ...
http://www.infowars.com/cia-will-now-op ... ize-americ...
Alex Jones
Jul 15, 2013 - ... Act “reformed” this month allowing CIA to disseminate propaganda .... of the war effort because the CIA hands were tied by legal restriction.
http://www.infowars.com/cia-will-now-op ... ize-americ...
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Jul 15, 2013 - ... Act “reformed” this month allowing CIA to disseminate propaganda .... of the war effort because the CIA hands were tied by legal restriction.
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Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain how the remote viewers knew the planes were remote controlled?gorgeous wrote:the remote viewers also saw the planes into the towers were remote controlled....stay in denial...
Did the planes have huge signs painted on them saying "Remote Controlled"?



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Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain to us why your remote viewers are unable to see who planted the plane parts and unable to say when these same people planted the plane parts?gorgeous wrote:planted plane parts....propaganda article...
Why are the remote viewers failing to do this?

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Another big myth is the that of the woman allegedly standing in the hole left by the first plane. It 'looks' like a woman standing there....only until you realise that the legs don't look at all right. And then it hit me, the legs are not legs at all...they are actually pieces of the external cladding of the WTC. This is VERY clear in one of the photos...where you can clearly see that the woman's 'leg' is simply the upward extension of the aluminium cladding from the floor below. There is no woman....the entire thing is pareidolia.
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Fairly plain to see. Their lunacy does not allow them to distinguish between the parts of the plains and planes not planted but painted on the planet. Duh...Matthew Ellard wrote:Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain to us why your remote viewers are unable to see who planted the plane parts and unable to say when these same people planted the plane parts?gorgeous wrote:planted plane parts....propaganda article...
Why are the remote viewers failing to do this?
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You are the dumbest of the dumb...gorgeous wrote:yes, the govt puts out propaganda and now openly promote it... CIA Will Now Openly Propagandize Americans » Alex Jones' Infowars ...





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If they planted plane trees, the seeds could be considered plane parts. And, as time passes, it gets easier and easier to find the planes, and their parts.scrmbldggs wrote:Fairly plain to see. Their lunacy does not allow them to distinguish between the parts of the plains and planes not planted but painted on the planet. Duh...Matthew Ellard wrote:Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain to us why your remote viewers are unable to see who planted the plane parts and unable to say when these same people planted the plane parts?gorgeous wrote:planted plane parts....propaganda article...
Why are the remote viewers failing to do this?
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OlegTheBatty wrote:If they planted plane trees, the seeds could be considered plane parts. And, as time passes, it gets easier and easier to find the planes, and their parts.scrmbldggs wrote:Fairly plain to see. Their lunacy does not allow them to distinguish between the parts of the plains and planes not planted but painted on the planet. Duh...Matthew Ellard wrote:Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain to us why your remote viewers are unable to see who planted the plane parts and unable to say when these same people planted the plane parts?gorgeous wrote:planted plane parts....propaganda article...
Why are the remote viewers failing to do this?


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