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Post by JO 753 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:52 pm

Iz there anything to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1on ... video_user

Its a documentary about how the banks hav been running America frum the beginning.
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Post by gorgeous » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:45 pm

all true...aka the illuminati control banking corporations, wars, terrorism, the media , the music and movie industries.......the ruling illum banking family is the Rothschilds..their goal is debt enslavement for all people and countries..-----“Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.-----“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.-------.Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” -Woodrow Wilson-----------------"The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government ever since
the days of Andrew Jackson"… -Franklin D. Roosevelt
(in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)---------------“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” – Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France, 1815-----------------“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company.-------------------J. P. Morgan, quotes:

"Capital must protect itself in every way... Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd."
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US Presidents Murdered By Rothschild Banksters - Rense
http://www.rense.com/general86/pres.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The name "Federal Reserve Bank" was designed to deceive, and it still does. ...-------------Andrew Jackson , Kennedy, Lincoln, Garfield....they exposed the corruption ...later pres. wanted to get rid of the federal reserve....they crossed the powers that control and had to be eliminated...
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JO 753 wrote:Iz there anything to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1on ... video_user

Its a documentary about how the banks hav been running America frum the beginning.
Nope. I mean, yes, banks have always had sufficient power to make their desires heard and even to get their way sometimes, but "running America"? No.
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Post by gorgeous » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:55 pm

they do...
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Do not do not! :P
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JO 753 wrote:Iz there anything to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1on ... video_user

Its a documentary about how the banks had been running America from
the beginning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-o3CJytIPE

NMB…
P.S. In every country I have ever lived in or worked in, at the first hint of political upheaval, soldiers (rather than police) appear miraculously with guns to guard the banks..

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if any countries reject a Rothschilds central bank they will suffer greatly..war, violence....------Only 3 countries left w/o ROTHSCHILD Central Bank! - Four ...

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data ... news.php?q.." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

The Rothschild family is slowly but surely having their Central banks established in every country of this world, giving them incredible amount of wealth and ...-------In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:
Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
-------------The Attacks of September 11th were an inside job to invade Afghanistan and Iraq to then establish a Central Bank in those countries.

The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are:
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

After the instigated protests and riots in the Arab countries the Rothschild finally paved their way into establishing Central Banks, and getting rid of many leaders, which put them into more power.

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Post by Monster » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:21 am

Cuba hasn't had a war in ages, so your theory is false.
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:33 am

JO 753 wrote:Its a documentary about how the banks hav been running America frum the beginning.
It is not true for a simple reason. Until the US National Bank Act of 1864, there were over 1700 different types of US currency in circulation. The banks issuing currency were in competition with each other. They had little to do with government regulation.

It is a very interesting period in history. US citizens, in remote, western, newly settled areas, "sort of knew" that quite a lot of currency was counterfeit. However they continued to transact using dubious currencies. It is evidence that "notes" currency requires a psychological support base as well as fiscal backing. That rule is still true today. Every now&then people still buy gold, when nervous about the economy.


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Maybe not alwayz, but how about now?
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:47 am

JO 753 wrote:Maybe not alwayz, but how about now?
Well that's a pretty tricky question. Technically, as everyone enjoys fast moving liquidity, people are going to have banks owning mortgages, equity bonds and so on. Therefore, you could say "banks own a lot on paper". However that's sort of how the whole general economy works. Banks are just part of that big picture.

I think its quite silly trying to compare the "Rothchilds" during the Napoleonic Wars, to modern banking, because they are two totally different activities. The Rothchilds were more like agents for very rich people sitting on liquid capital. They were more the nature of Lloyds "Names", who underwrite capital projects or short wars for the "Names" advantage.

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Post by nmblum88 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:58 am

Irrelevant.
What does it matter, JO what the particular standard is at any given time?
You question was essentially "how much power do banks exercise in our society."
Wm, Jenning's Bryan screaming from a dais at the U.S. President…"You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold l!!" was dramatic, but it didn't affect the actual lending of money for profit that is …there IS no other… the reason for being of a bank… big or small.
Once the policy is established, the money is borrowed from banks … the interest and fees are earned by the banks.
What the standard is… gold, silver, diamonds or dross… is less of immediate and practical significance than how much banks will lend to borrowers, who the borrowers are, and what the cost will be for actually borrowing the money.

The banks profit form almost every form of transaction involving cost … whether for a product or an idea.
And that limits or expands our creativity… including scientific research.…

Whether it is a student loan that the government actually profits from, the money still comes from banks that also profit from them..
America was BUILT by banks… the settling of the West, the vanquishing of the Indians by (expensive) slaughter, all financed initially by Eastern banks, quickly followed by the establishment of Western banking Empires.
Ditto the Cvil War… which earned banks so much money loaned to the Federal government that they went on to earn even MORE MONEY (and immeasurable power) by financing the industrialization that made us what we are today…
(And the cruel and clumsy Reconstruction made more and more money for the Eastern banks.. )
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AND when the industrialization started to wane at the end of the 20th Century and left abandoned towns in all over the East and South, the banks made money on the dismantling of the manufacturing society.
Finished with making fortunes on coal mining int West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee, the banks are now profiting from the new industry: the manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs…
And now we are faced with the uncomfortable reality that the banks of China and the banks of the West, most significantly those of America, have more of common interest with each other than any of them have with the borrowers of either country.
I'm not sure why people find it so easy to believe that banks financed Napoleon's march across Europe, but are offended by the idea that the Western capitalist banks financed Hitler's march across Europe.
Or the Vietnam War…
Or that the Vatican, to all intents and purpose is a bank… (the famous Watergate apartment complex in Washington D.C. was financed by the Vatican, which retained partial ownership for some years and made a fortune on its resale).
And that "Too Big to Fail" wasn't born yesterday….. it is a tenet of our banking structure…
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nmblum wrote:Irrelevant.
What is irrelevant Norma?
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Post by JO 753 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:43 am

Money iz an invention with a serious flaw.

It iz an artificial substitute for willing co-operation. The flaw iz that it works too well.
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Post by ElectricMonk » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:08 am

Banking prospers in peacetime. It prospers more during fluctuations. Wars (or preparations for them) are best. But banks can lose everything if the public decides to have enough and raids the vaults: history has countless examples of 'banking runs' which went far less peaceful than just withdrawing all your money at once. Taking all the money, lynching all the bankers used to be standard practice.

As long as banks have the unqualified support and protection of the state, it makes tremendous sense for them to promote instability in every other aspect of society. Since a group of banks can do that so much more efficiently, it makes sense for them to band together. Free global money transfer means that even state protection becomes less relevant as long as some states maintain support.

All of this has little similarity with a conspiracy, it is just inherent in the system of banking. And it is foolish to think that any single actor is responsible, or that with his removal these facts would change.

As (probably) Jefferson said: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."

Banking is a part of infrastructure, and must be regulated as such.

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nmblum wrote:Irrelevant.
What does it matter, JO what the particular standard is at any given time?
You question was essentially "how much power do banks exercise in our society."
Wm, Jenning's Bryan screaming from a dais at the U.S. President…"You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold l!!" was dramatic, but it didn't affect the actual lending of money for profit that is …there IS no other… the reason for being of a bank… big or small.
Once the policy is established, the money is borrowed from banks … the interest and fees are earned by the banks.
What the standard is… gold, silver, diamonds or dross… is less of immediate and practical significance than how much banks will lend to borrowers, who the borrowers are, and what the cost will be for actually borrowing the money.

The banks profit form almost every form of transaction involving cost … whether for a product or an idea.
And that limits or expands our creativity… including scientific research.…

Whether it is a student loan that the government actually profits from, the money still comes from banks that also profit from them..
America was BUILT by banks… the settling of the West, the vanquishing of the Indians by (expensive) slaughter, all financed initially by Eastern banks, quickly followed by the establishment of Western banking Empires.
Ditto the Cvil War… which earned banks so much money loaned to the Federal government that they went on to earn even MORE MONEY (and immeasurable power) by financing the industrialization that made us what we are today…
(And the cruel and clumsy Reconstruction made more and more money for the Eastern banks.. )
.
AND when the industrialization started to wane at the end of the 20th Century and left abandoned towns in all over the East and South, the banks made money on the dismantling of the manufacturing society.
Finished with making fortunes on coal mining int West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee, the banks are now profiting from the new industry: the manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs…
And now we are faced with the uncomfortable reality that the banks of China and the banks of the West, most significantly those of America, have more of common interest with each other than any of them have with the borrowers of either country.
I'm not sure why people find it so easy to believe that banks financed Napoleon's march across Europe, but are offended by the idea that the Western capitalist banks financed Hitler's march across Europe.
Or the Vietnam War…
Or that the Vatican, to all intents and purpose is a bank… (the famous Watergate apartment complex in Washington D.C. was financed by the Vatican, which retained partial ownership for some years and made a fortune on its resale).
And that "Too Big to Fail" wasn't born yesterday….. it is a tenet of our banking structure…
NMB
------------------yes ...banks fund the wars..the Vatican also has ties to the CIA....both are illum......Mrs. Rothschild once said "if my sons did not want any wars there would be none"......and Cuba and other countries have had economic sanctions against them when they refused a Rothschild's central bank....
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1881: President James A. Garfield (The 20th President of the United States who lasted only 100 Days) states two weeks before he was assassinated,
•“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”
--------------------------------1911: John F. Hylan, then mayor of New York, states,
------"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."-------------Horace Greeley, Banking quotes:

" We have stricken the shackles from 4,000,000 human beings and brought all labourers to a common level, but not so much by the elevation of former slaves as by reducing the whole working population, white and black, to a condition of serfdom. While boasting of our noble deeds, we are careful to conceal the ugly fact that by our iniquitous money system we have manipulated a system of oppression which, though more refined, is no less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery".-------------.-------------------------------Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., quotes about Banking:

When the President signs this act [Federal Reserve Act of 1913], the invisible government by the money power -- proven to exist by the Monetary Trust Investigation -- will be legalized. The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.
---------------------------Louis McFadden, quotes about Banking:

It was not accidental [the 1929 stock-market “crash”]. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. ... The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all.-------------- Robert A. Taft, quotes about Banking:

"Every Republican candidate for President since 1936 has been nominated by the Chase National Bank."
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gorgeous wrote:
nmblum wrote:Irrelevant.
What does it matter, JO what the particular standard is at any given time?
You question was essentially "how much power do banks exercise in our society."
Wm, Jenning's Bryan screaming from a dais at the U.S. President…"You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold l!!" was dramatic, but it didn't affect the actual lending of money for profit that is …there IS no other… the reason for being of a bank… big or small.
Once the policy is established, the money is borrowed from banks … the interest and fees are earned by the banks.
What the standard is… gold, silver, diamonds or dross… is less of immediate and practical significance than how much banks will lend to borrowers, who the borrowers are, and what the cost will be for actually borrowing the money.

The banks profit form almost every form of transaction involving cost … whether for a product or an idea.
And that limits or expands our creativity… including scientific research.…

Whether it is a student loan that the government actually profits from, the money still comes from banks that also profit from them..
America was BUILT by banks… the settling of the West, the vanquishing of the Indians by (expensive) slaughter, all financed initially by Eastern banks, quickly followed by the establishment of Western banking Empires.
Ditto the Cvil War… which earned banks so much money loaned to the Federal government that they went on to earn even MORE MONEY (and immeasurable power) by financing the industrialization that made us what we are today…
(And the cruel and clumsy Reconstruction made more and more money for the Eastern banks.. )
.
AND when the industrialization started to wane at the end of the 20th Century and left abandoned towns in all over the East and South, the banks made money on the dismantling of the manufacturing society.
Finished with making fortunes on coal mining int West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee, the banks are now profiting from the new industry: the manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs…
And now we are faced with the uncomfortable reality that the banks of China and the banks of the West, most significantly those of America, have more of common interest with each other than any of them have with the borrowers of either country.
I'm not sure why people find it so easy to believe that banks financed Napoleon's march across Europe, but are offended by the idea that the Western capitalist banks financed Hitler's march across Europe.
Or the Vietnam War…
Or that the Vatican, to all intents and purpose is a bank… (the famous Watergate apartment complex in Washington D.C. was financed by the Vatican, which retained partial ownership for some years and made a fortune on its resale).
And that "Too Big to Fail" wasn't born yesterday….. it is a tenet of our banking structure…
NMB
------------------yes ...banks fund the wars..the Vatican also has ties to the CIA....both are illum......Mrs. Rothschild once said "if my sons did not want any wars there would be none"…...and Cuba and other countries have had economic sanctions against them when they refused a Rothschild's central bank....

Wow!! Genuine scholarship at last in the often lacking Sketic Forum!!

As a member of the Illuminati, as well as scion of the Rothschild family , Meyer having been my great, great, great , great- Grandfather, twice or perhaps three times, removed.. but of course as everyone knows, the Israelites are ALL related, rich man, poor, man beggaman, Feynmann, Einstein, thief). ) what can I say other than "whatever it is that we did, we did do it, and we are proud of having done, and of doing it still. And would probably do it again if the U.S. didn't do it first."

However, you are somewhat deficient in both facts (we did much worse things than someone in your position could even KNOW about) as we'll as information.
When you quote Mrs. Rothschild, for instance, which Mrs. Rothschild are you referring to?
By my count (and that of Frederick Morton, the most competent of the Rothschilds chroniclers) there have been 71 Mrs. Rothschilds…
Do you mean one of the grand dames of 18th century Paris or London.
The hausfraus of Frankfurt and Berlin?
They bohemians of New York, and Hollywood?
OR the Dame Miriam Rothschild who died fairly recently (1995 ??) and was the world's foremost authority on the FLEA… yes, the Flea.. ?
Imagine!! A billionaire with FLEAS!
No wonder the Rothschild;s COULD have been responsible for the Black Plague….
Wouldn't that be feature in our mutual caps, for-gee-ous?

Because, of course, I grant you , there is nothing that guarantees that a Rothschild rouldn't have used her considerable wealth as much in the interest of international banking mischief, and general mayhem, as she might in the interest of entomology or science in general,

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Post by gorgeous » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:47 pm

sooo...you can confirm the illum is real and it is a conspiracy, right?....-------Gutle Schnaper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, is said to have stated before her death in 1849, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none”.
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gorgeous wrote:sooo...you can confirm the illum is real and it is a conspiracy, right?....
What about 'I am one" don't you understand?
Norma Manna Blum



P.S. Don't you have enough troubles without taking on the Illuminati, and worrying about Jewish conspiracies?
Not that they don't exist, of course, but only that it is more likely that you will be done in by your own wife, than by anyone, or anything else?

Just curious..of course… I wouldn't want to dissuade your from your clearly well thought out and extremely well investigated theories….
I am as it happens, overjoyed that you are able to have any opinions at all, that aren't connected with "what's to eat?"
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Post by gorgeous » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:05 pm

I guess there's no illum charm school.....I am female or dubyah if you prefer....do you have evidence?
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Post by nmblum88 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:19 pm

gorgeous wrote:I am female or dubyah if you prefer....do you have evidence?
That doesn't mean you couldn't have a wife, does it?
This IS the 21st century after all, and even stranger pairing have appeared on the radar screens,'
PLUS… I think you might go easy on invoking the concept of evidence, or even using the word… although self-awareness doesn't seem to be a working element among some of the more prominent (high-strung and hysterical) posters here.

However, you must go where you genes and your nurture have led and continues to lead you…
As in, perhaps "the boy CAN'T help it!!"

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P.S… And just in case?
What variety of woman ARE you? The one-eyed, three breasted kind?
Or the HUGE buttocks without actual legs, but with tiny little two-toed feet attached: "Jackie, the Flipper?"

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Post by gorgeous » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:51 pm

when did you learn you were illum...and did the illum kill Kennedy, Lincoln, Garfield, Jackson, and Princess Diana? what are some of the worst things the illum has done?
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gorgeous wrote: Mrs. Rothschild once said "if my sons did not want any wars there would be none"........
Which "Mrs Rothschild" said this Gorgeous?
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gorgeous wrote: "Every Republican candidate for President since 1936 has been nominated by the Chase National Bank."
Can you list one Republican candidate nominated by the Chase National Bank and your evidence?
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Gutle Schnaper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, is said to have stated before her death in 1849, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none”.-----------------so , what do you think of your friend Norma being in the illum?....she apparently knows some horrid crimes they have committed...ask her if she is a reptile...
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Post by gorgeous » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:53 am

Robert A. Taft, quotes about Banking:

"Every Republican candidate for President since 1936 has been nominated by the Chase National Bank."---he said it...but most or all the presidents have been illum...Norma would know...the Chase Bank also funded the Nazis....
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Re: Banks Controlling Everything

Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:54 am

gorgeous wrote:Gutle Schnaper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, is said to have stated before her death in 1849, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none”.
She couldn't speak English and never said anything. Your lies are very funny
gorgeous wrote: -----------so , what do you think of your friend Norma being in the illum?.....
She ain't my friend. She's an ignorant forum troll, just like you.
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