World governments unify to hide aliens? How?

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Post by gorgeous » Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:14 pm

It's fear.
Of having to admit not knowing an answer.-----true ...
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:57 am

gorgeous wrote:Klass offered money if they would say it was a hoax....
Why are you so stupid? The National Enquirer actually did pay Travis Walton and Steve Pierce $5,000 each, in 1975, to say the saw a spaceship and Walton was abducted.
https://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/12-08-15/

"Thirty years after the book's release, Walton appeared on the Fox game show The Moment of Truth and was asked if he in fact was abducted by a UFO on November 5, 1975, to which he replied with "Yes". The polygraph test determined he was lying"

Watch it yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Gord » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:07 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:[bbvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWP41Ld6tm0[/bbvideo]
Holy hells, what a horrible TV show! I know the guy almost certainly wasn't really abducted by aliens, but the show uses a lie detector?? Even the American Polygraph Association says this on their website: https://www.polygraph.org/polygraph-validity-research
...The data showed that techniques intended for event-specific (single issue) diagnostic testing produced an aggregated decision accuracy of 89% (confidence interval of 83% - 95%), with an estimated inconclusive rate of 11%. Polygraph techniques in which multiple issues were encompassed by the relevant questions produced an aggregated decision accuracy of 85% (confidence interval 77% - 93%) with an inconclusive rate of 13%. The combination of all validated PDD techniques, excluding outlier results, produced a decision accuracy of 87% (confidence interval 80% - 94%) with an inconclusive rate of 13%. These findings were consistent with those of the National Research Council’s (2003) conclusions regarding polygraph accuracy....
Accuracy of 89%, 85%, or 87% is TERRIBLE when it comes to single-answer tests, such as the ones used on that TV show.

Imagine if you were on a game show where they asked trivia questions, and their own answers were wrong 13% of the time. And then imagine if your reputation was on the line when you answered the questions. For example, imagine that you're a doctor and they ask a trivia question about a certain medical procedure; you give an answer, and they tell you that answer is WRONG, but there's a 13% chance it's actually correct.

I've never seen that show. How many questions are there to go through? I'll assume for the moment that there are four of them, and there's a 13% chance each time that the game show has the wrong answer. That means, if the contestant is correct every time (in other words, replies factually to each of the four questions), that the game show will conclude he's lying THIS OFTEN:

1 - ( 0.87 x 0.87 x 0.87 x 0.87 ) =0.427

That's almost 43% of the time!

Now obviously the game show's lie detection test consisted of more than just four questions. That means they can select which four answers they have prepared to reveal during the show! They can effectively decide ahead of time when they will reveal a false answer if they want to do so. In other words, they are letting each contestant go so far and no further before revealing a false statement.
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Post by landrew » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:03 pm

Polygraphs have never been established as an infallible means for discerning true and false statements. Employing them is a form of muckraking, and accomplishes nothing in the way of resolving these mysteries one way or the other.
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:38 am

Gord wrote: but the show uses a lie detector??
The "e-meters" used by Scientologists are very basic lie detectors. Dad bought one off an ex-Scientologist "auditor". As kids we could get extraordinary and dramatic readings by clenching our bottom cheeks at the right moment or pretending to push out a big poo. The aim was to keep a straight face while doing this.

Here's John Travolta on an e-meter, being audited. I think he is thinking about clenching someone else's bottom cheeks and that's how the Scientologists blackmailed him.
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its basically an ohm meter - with added dials

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:19 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:its basically an ohm meter - with added dials
Sort of. It reads small current changes through how much salt ions, your body releases through anxiety.

It is very easy to fake changes. The best way to get people to tell the truth, is still sadly by beating the crap out of them using psychological stress torture and then matching stories.
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Matthew Ellard wrote:The best way to get people to tell the truth, is still sadly by beating the crap out of them using psychological stress torture and then matching stories. [/color] :D
Worked for me.
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Post by Gord » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:42 pm

That's how I always know when I'm telling the truth.
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Gord wrote:That's how I always know when I'm telling the truth.
I've only told one lie in my life...
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... and she believed it. 8-)
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If you can fool yourself, you can fool a polygraph.
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landrew wrote:If you can fool yourself, you can fool a polygraph.
You don't have to go that far, just consider what you're saying to be true.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:06 am

a psychopath never lies - cause they know they are never wrong .
always wanted to explain that to my boss - who luvs to say he never lies and is never wrong

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:its basically an ohm meter - with added dials
Sort of. It reads small current changes through how much salt ions, your body releases through anxiety.

It is very easy to fake changes. The best way to get people to tell the truth, is still sadly by beating the crap out of them using psychological stress torture and then matching stories.
:D

resistance is equal to voltage divided by current .

a wheatstone bridge does that .

almost any ohm meter will give a meg ohm value if you hold both ends.


there is a you tube video that explains the scientology device .
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The FBI isn't stopping you from doing anything.
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psychiatry is a scam wrote:....there is a you tube video that explains the scientology device but the FBI still will not let me post links
Did a voice in your head tell you this about the FBI?

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Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:22 am
but the FBI still will not let me post links
Nope. Life is simply outsmarting you. Again. As usual.
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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:22 am
...almost any ohm meter will give a meg ohm value if you hold both ends.
No it won't. It depends completely upon the moisture on and in your skin. My normal hand to hand resistance is 47k. It can be a lot lower.

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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but the FBI still will not let me post links
Ok, now that right there is a bit much, dude. No, the FBI isn't doing anything to you.
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:hmm: I think pias simply forgot the [/sarcasm] bracket. :-P
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scrmbldggs wrote:
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:hmm: I think pias simply forgot the [/sarcasm] bracket. :-P
You haven't been reading his posts?
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:56 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:52 am
:hmm: I think pias simply forgot the [/sarcasm] bracket. :-P
You haven't been reading his posts?
Well, actually I have (read some). Hence mine. :-P


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It may amuse some of you to know that I agree, somewhat, with pias's position, but not his specifics or how he arrived at them. He's a fruit cake, obviously, but even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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It may amuse some of you to know that I agree, somewhat, with pias's position, but not his specifics or how he arrived at them. He's a fruit cake, obviously, but even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
Did the FBI make you post that, or the CIA?
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Gord wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:47 am
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 am
It may amuse some of you to know that I agree, somewhat, with pias's position, but not his specifics or how he arrived at them. He's a fruit cake, obviously, but even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
Did the FBI make you post that, or the CIA?
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So how many forum members are shadows? Eh?

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. :upsidown:







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Poodle wrote:
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So how many forum members are shadows? Eh?
11,103
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Poodle wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:44 pm
So how many forum members are shadows? Eh?
11,103
It should come out to 81.81818%, because that's 9/11.
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Gord wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:54 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Poodle wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:44 pm
So how many forum members are shadows? Eh?
11,103
It should come out to 81.81818%, because that's 9/11.
And some people claim there's no conspiracy!
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:49 am

It just hit me.

All this talk of unidentified flying objects is indirection.

The aliens are from within the hollow Earth. :shockd:

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Why would only governments and every one of their agents have to compose the entire conspiracy? What about academic institutions with astronomers actually observing the sky? The giant conspiracy would have to be leakproof. Good luck with that. And all involved in the conspiracy would have to be convinced there is good reason for it. LOL.

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It's not really difficult to understand why governments deny the existence of ufos and ET aliens. The ridicule factor explains it well. How many careers in government wouldn't be shortened if someone partook in these theories?
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landrew wrote:
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It's not really difficult to understand why governments deny the existence of ufos and ET aliens. The ridicule factor explains it well. How many careers in government wouldn't be shortened if someone partook in these theories?
There is a related hilarious paradox going on. The forum member Gorgeous claims Donald Trump is the only person telling the truth yet Gorgeous simultaneously claims the US government is keeping "Area 51 Grey aliens" secret. :D

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:11 pm

If the aliens wanted to be known, they would be known regardless of what any government did.

You know, hover over the UN headquarters, land in Red Square or something like that.

So we must conclude that the aliens do not want to be known.

And all governments, even down to the county and municipal level are under the control of the aliens when it comes to alien concerns. As to the various alleged benefits to humans of "world governments" unifying -- what is that to the aliens?
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Post by Gord » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:35 pm

I remember one year -- must've been around '83 or '84 -- I was in high school one day, when suddenly people were talking about a news report they'd heard that aliens or a flying saucer or something had landed in Red Square. My immediate response was "Finally!" -- not because I thought it was true or that I wanted it to be true, but because this would have been something that someone would finally be able to show evidence for. Actual, undeniable evidence. News crews and TV cameras and everything like that.

I never actually saw any news reports about it, though. Doesn't seem to be anything about it anywhere on the internet, either. Guess it was just a rumour that spread through the school that day.
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