Womens' health is a feminist issue, but "Feminist health" is a woowoo issue.

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Womens' health is a feminist issue, but "Feminist health" is a woowoo issue.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:34 pm

'Feminist Health' course suggests disease is 'subjective'
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The University of Massachusetts-Amherst is offering a feminist-themed health class this semester that aims to debate the social construction of disease.

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:'Feminist Health' course suggests disease is 'subjective'
Campus Reform
The University of Massachusetts-Amherst is offering a feminist-themed health class this semester that aims to debate the social construction of disease.

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Who here has read The Book of the It by Georg Groddeck? :pr:
The course will examine how standards of health "vary according to gender, race, sexuality, class, and nationality" and how this affects "the way we value certain bodies and ways of living."
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:27 am

Here in NZ it has been pointed out that so much promotion has been given to women's health issues that the government now spends much, much more on them than on mens health issues. Kinda like sexism reversed. Cancers of the cervix and the breast are given enormous attention and have money thrown at their prevention and treatment, while prostate cancer gets hardly a look in.

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Post by gorgeous » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:53 pm

it is women who push their health agenda, men need to push their's...there is still sexism ...women having heart attacks are still at times told it's 'all in your head'....even with cancer ...
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Post by gorgeous » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:55 pm

from above^^----"The Consortium offers other feminist-inspired classes, as well, including “Sissies, Studs and Butches,” which aims to “challenge Western, hegemonic and inherent legacies of masculinity,” and a course simply titled “Transgender.”---------------as usual it is all about the trans agenda...
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:12 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Here in NZ it has been pointed out that so much promotion has been given to women's health issues that the government now spends much, much more on them than on mens health issues. Kinda like sexism reversed. Cancers of the cervix and the breast are given enormous attention and have money thrown at their prevention and treatment, while prostate cancer gets hardly a look in.
Cervical cancer (a cancer caused by the human papillomavirus) is more prevalent in men than in women. Since men don't have a cervix, the cancers manifest elsewhere in the body. Perhaps one of the reasons for higher prevalence in men is that few men get pap tests.

As for breast vs prostate reseach $$$, do you have anything less subjective and prejudiced than your denotatively meaningless adjectives?
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:10 pm

Oleg

I cannot speak for other nations, but it is $$ spent on detection and treatment.

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Post by gorgeous » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:14 pm

men don't organize to improve themselves and their health, often it's women who push them to get check ups...
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:16 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Oleg

, but it is $$ spent on detection and treatment.
How much?
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:41 am

Hard to find an answer, Oleg. In Britain 22 million pounds each year on prostate cancer research versus 33 million on breast cancer.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:59 am

If one disease is cheaper to treat than another, comparing the amounts of money is not the right way to compare.

Over the past ten years (middle class in USA), doctors have stopped the finger up the butt routine at the annual checkup because a blood test catches prostate cancer sooner.

How much did that development cost? I don't know.

But if it was less than whatever is spent on cervical caner, I'm OK with that.
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Post by TJrandom » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:36 am

I may be wrong on this - but my understanding is that researchers, not the governments, control how much is spent researching a disease. That is, researchers propose a research project which gets reviewed for funding, and if accepted as legitimate, it gets funded.

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TJrandom wrote:I may be wrong on this - but my understanding is that researchers, not the governments, control how much is spent researching a disease. That is, researchers propose a research project which gets reviewed for funding, and if accepted as legitimate, it gets funded.
In the US some portion of research money is provided by government agencies. Don't have current figures.
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Post by TJrandom » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:37 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
TJrandom wrote:I may be wrong on this - but my understanding is that researchers, not the governments, control how much is spent researching a disease. That is, researchers propose a research project which gets reviewed for funding, and if accepted as legitimate, it gets funded.
In the US some portion of research money is provided by government agencies. Don't have current figures.
Yes, but is it originally budgeted for a specific illness, or is it a pool of funding that gets doled out to researcher proposed projects without being initially targeted for a specific disease? If there were no proposals for blue wart cancer research, but all proposals were for green wart cancer research – would a blue wart pool of monies be held back and all funds support green wart research even though only one case of green wart cancer was known to science?

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Post by OlegTheBatty » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:09 pm

One of the reasons for the discrepancy

Breast cancer mortality rates for women are much higher in the child bearing/family raising years than prostate cancer mortality rates for men during those years. Prostate cancer mortality rates don't become significant for men until their late 60's or older.

The social cost borne by the community is much higher for breast cancer than for prostate cancer, even though the over all mortality rates are similar
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:14 pm

TJrandom wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
TJrandom wrote:I may be wrong on this - but my understanding is that researchers, not the governments, control how much is spent researching a disease. That is, researchers propose a research project which gets reviewed for funding, and if accepted as legitimate, it gets funded.
In the US some portion of research money is provided by government agencies. Don't have current figures.
Yes, but is it originally budgeted for a specific illness, or is it a pool of funding that gets doled out to researcher proposed projects without being initially targeted for a specific disease? If there were no proposals for blue wart cancer research, but all proposals were for green wart cancer research – would a blue wart pool of monies be held back and all funds support green wart research even though only one case of green wart cancer was known to science?
In most places, it is budgeted for specific illnesses. Generally, Requests for Proposals will specify the disease, and a maximum cost for the proposal.
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