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Post by Major Malfunction » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:11 am

Gord wrote:When people think their psychiatric medications are "poison", that's a bad sign.
Paranoia and delusion are part of the condition, so it's to be expected.
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Gord wrote:When people think their psychiatric medications are "poison", that's a bad sign.
But aren`t those meds poison? After all, don`t they all come in child-proof bottles? Isn`t What`s your poison? normally answered by naming an age/activity restricted concoction that in sufficient quantity causes all sorts of physical difficulties?

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TJrandom wrote:
Gord wrote:When people think their psychiatric medications are "poison", that's a bad sign.
But aren`t those meds poison? After all, don`t they all come in child-proof bottles? Isn`t What`s your poison? normally answered by naming an age/activity restricted concoction that in sufficient quantity causes all sorts of physical difficulties?
Nah, you're thinking of boooooze.
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Just don't rub it in your eyes.
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Everything's a poison at the wrong dose. If only everything were so black and white, we wouldn't need the brains of a nightcrawler.
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Gord wrote:
TJrandom wrote:
Gord wrote:When people think their psychiatric medications are "poison", that's a bad sign.
But aren`t those meds poison? After all, don`t they all come in child-proof bottles? Isn`t What`s your poison? normally answered by naming an age/activity restricted concoction that in sufficient quantity causes all sorts of physical difficulties?
Nah, you're thinking of boooooze.
Ooooh a mind reader.... please don`t prescribe anything for me. No no, please don`t proscribe. :mrgreen:

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Post by Gord » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:20 am

I think I'll stick this video here.

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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:31 am

Gord wrote:I think I'll stick this video here.

i believe shrinks will say these people can not be helped / no meds
i think of them as the opposite end of the mental health spectrum or super normal

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:i believe shrinks will say these people can not be helped / no meds
i think of them as the opposite end of the mental health spectrum or super normal
Shrinks can and do offer them help: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20354468
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:00 am

Michigan has a law that prevents - pharmaceutical liability lawsuits - !

also watched and old show about eugenics in the usa .

during ww1 when it was at its peak - they tested recruits for the war and realized half the population were morons that should be sterilized .

this attitude still exists . the next post is proof
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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:00 am
wow - you normals never cease to amaze me .
In contrast, you "batshit-crazy- people" are really boring and repetitive, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:54 am
psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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wow - you normals never cease to amaze me .
In contrast, you "batshit-crazy- people" are really boring and repetitive, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't think you can call many people here "normal". They mostly seem to tend towards the ends of the bell curve.

So I guess you can safely call us all a bunch of bell-ends.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:02 am

just watched the documentary THE BLEEDING EDGE
its amazing how corrupt the whole medical system is .
doctors do not give a blank about healthy normal people.
so mentally sick people are where ?

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:so mentally sick people are where ?
In the USA....on the streets. Your country doesn't want socialist health care.

Reflect on that when you next vote, that's if you bother voting at all.

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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doctors do not give a blank about healthy normal people.
You think that's bad -- I called my Maytag repair man the other day to tell him there was nothing wrong with my washing machine, and he SWORE at me!
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Major Malfunction wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:37 am
Matthew Ellard wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:54 am
psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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wow - you normals never cease to amaze me .
In contrast, you "batshit-crazy- people" are really boring and repetitive, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't think you can call many people here "normal". They mostly seem to tend towards the ends of the bell curve.

So I guess you can safely call us all a bunch of bell-ends.
That's normal.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:11 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:32 am
psychiatry is a scam wrote:so mentally sick people are where ?
In the USA....on the streets. Your country doesn't want socialist health care.

Reflect on that when you next vote, that's if you bother voting at all.
i do vote - honestly i am too stupid to vote , but
i get a little sticker that says --- i voted .

so what do you think of the docu - THE BLEEDING EDGE - ?

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psychiatry is a scam wrote: so what do you think of the docu - THE BLEEDING EDGE - ?
Bleeding Edge Documentary / 2018
America has the most technologically advanced health care system in the world, yet medical interventions have become the third leading cause of death, and the overwhelming majority of high-risk implanted devices never require a single clinical trial. In THE BLEEDING EDGE, Academy Award (R) nominated filmmakers Kirby Dick and Amy Ziering (THE INVISIBLE WAR, THE HUNTING GROUND) turn their sights on the $400 billion medical device industry, examining lax regulations, corporate cover-ups, and profit driven incentives that put patients at risk daily.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_bleeding_edge/

I have not seen the documentary but I can see a mathematical flaw. Humans, before any form of medical intervention probably had a life expectancy of 25 to 30 years.

If the average life expectancy is now 85 to 90 years old with medical intervention and the documentary claims medical intervention is the third leading cause of death, then I'm not 100% sure what they think the problem is.

Do we really want to go back to dying at 25 to 30 years average life expectancy? Aren't they simply saying that some forms of medical intervention are bad and some forms of medical intervention are good and we simply need better testing?

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In your country, Matthew, average life span is over 82 years. In the USA, it is less than 79.
They are not doing things well.

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Historical life expectancy numbers can be deceiving. They take into account half the kids died before adulthood, and half the women died in childbirth.

But if you survived that, you had a pretty good chance of living to a ripe old age.

We haven't really extended Human life, just let most of us live as long as is our natural potential. With sewers, clean water, ample food, and medicine.
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Lance Kennedy wrote:
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In your country, Matthew, average life span is over 82 years. In the USA, it is less than 79.
They are not doing things well.
Well, the US does have a lot more school shootings....
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Many reasons for variable lifespans between countries. PhDs have been written on the subject no doubt.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:33 pm

School shootings come to less than 100 deaths per year. Non socialised medicine kills at least 50,000 per year due to poor people being unable to access that which keeps them alive (according to New Scientist ), but it may be many more. The best way for the USA to get its life span statistics up is to make good medical care available to the poor.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:48 pm

Major Malfunction wrote:Historical life expectancy numbers can be deceiving. They take into account half the kids died before adulthood, and half the women died in childbirth. But if you survived that, you had a pretty good chance of living to a ripe old age.
I first became aware of that logic with the Romans, 2000 years ago. If you survived childhood you had probably lived until you were 50 or 60. That makes heaps of sense because if you joined the Roman army at 25 and served your obligatory 20 years service, you had a good chance of living another 10 or 20 years on the land you were given upon retirement.

Putin has lost a lot of his popularity recently, because he wants to raise the Russian retirement age to 65 for males and Russian life expectancy is only 66 for males. However Putin points out that although child mortality is low, it is only the current older generation that has a life expectancy of 66 due to massive alcoholism in the 60s, 70s 80s and 1990s.


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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:34 pm

another probable EXTERNAL cause for mental illness .
I have mentioned carbon monoxide and natural gas leaks .
also the society created by the roman catholic church / must admit it is probably fading as a factor .
the war on drug addicts - which is just a front for eugenics / racists .

there is a new NETFLIX film - ROOT CAUSE
it claims that infections inside dead (root canal) teeth are a major factor in illness .

I agree that anything that is eating away the bone holding your teeth has to be bad .

HOWEVER I am wondering about the inside of root canal / dead teeth ? are they all infected ?

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:06 pm

I read years ago that bad teeth were highly correlated to heart attacks. That makes sense from a variety of logical connections........but doesn't establish causality. In the main: if you aren't taking care of your teeth, you are highly likely not to be taking care of anything else.

Life is like that.

War on drug addicts is about the for profit penal system..........kinda like our medical system in point of contact with your post.
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I read years ago that bad teeth were highly correlated to heart attacks. That makes sense from a variety of logical connections........but doesn't establish causality. In the main: if you aren't taking care of your teeth, you are highly likely not to be taking care of anything else.

Life is like that.

War on drug addicts is about the for profit penal system..........kinda like our medical system in point of contact with your post.
I believe that also. About 20 years ago I was experiencing heart problems and I also had a troublesome root left over from on old root canal. I had the root removed surgically, and the heart problems disappeared afterwards and remain good until this day. An older doctor also told me that she noticed the correlation between bad teeth and heart problems also.

My theory is that long-lived bacteria colonies can live within tooth fractures and canals, doing battle with the body's immune system for many years without ever being eradicated by the body. This leads to strains of bacteria that have evolved the ability to "hide" from the body's immune system by camouflaging themselves with proteins that mimic organs in the body, including heart and vascular tissue. As a consequence, bacteria can attack those organs with relative impunity. What also may happen is that the body's immune system may also attack the organ itself, leading to organ degeneration. I have read a few studies confirming this theory over the years, and I will endeavor to find them and post them here.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:30 pm

Could be. Note however you are arguing for direct causation, while I only get to correlation easily caused by concomitant factors.

We all die..........so.........not much difference, but its always "good to know."
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
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Could be. Note however you are arguing for direct causation, while I only get to correlation easily caused by concomitant factors.

We all die..........so.........not much difference, but its always "good to know."
Aside from my own evidence for causation provided by the disappearance of heart problems after the dead tooth root was removed, I read about a study where ground-up tooth fragments from cadavers who had died from organ failure were injected into rabbits. The rabbits developed organ failure in the same organs.
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I am being treated with chemotherapy – the intent of which is to kill off fast forming cells. But it also kills off the production of good blood cells, so I become susceptible to infections and without those good blood cells, an inability to fight off infections. As a preparation for the therapy, they scheduled expert tooth cleaning and gave me a potent mouthwash to minimize risks from tooth and mouth borne bacteria.

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Pathogens living our bodies are also evolving. Our immune system deals with this problem by usually eradicating a strain of pathogen before it gets out of control. However, non-living materials in the body can shelter such pathogens for many years, where they can evolve resistance to our immune system without ever being eradicated. Artificial joints and heart valves are known for this, also the Dalkon Sheld and old root canals are responsible for dangerous infections. Teeth and gums are also places where harmful bacteria can colonize and evolve into dangerous pathogens.
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TJrandom wrote:
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I am being treated with chemotherapy – the intent of which is to kill off fast forming cells. But it also kills off the production of good blood cells, so I become susceptible to infections and without those good blood cells, an inability to fight off infections. As a preparation for the therapy, they scheduled expert tooth cleaning and gave me a potent mouthwash to minimize risks from tooth and mouth borne bacteria.
do you have any root canals / dead teeth ?

I have several , now I have an excuse

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Post by TJrandom » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:42 am

Nope - I have been blessed with very good teeth and have never had a root canal procedure, so all of my teeth are alive and kicking. And I have taken relatively good care of them - professional cleanings every three months, daily (mostly) brushing, use of a 'water pik', use of small brushes instead of floss, and strong mouthwash. I did have the 4 rear molars extracted early on to minimize compacting. I expect to have 28 teeth when I die.

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Whose, tho'?
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Major Malfunction wrote:
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Whose, tho'?
Good point. I also have a few wild boar teeth - can I count them?

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Post by Major Malfunction » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:16 pm

It's your rule...

So long as you're not breaking any laws, you can have as many teeth as you want.

(When we were camping last week, eldest was sifting around in the sand, as one does. And she said, "Daddy! I found a funny rock!" I looked at it. "That's a tooth!" Then she found another one. They were baby molars. Probably from kangaroos. There are lots of kangaroos around there. Or the site of some mass murder grave.)
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Come to think of it - I have a cow jawbone with imbedded teeth. I'll need to count them.

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TJrandom wrote:
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Come to think of it - I have a cow jawbone with imbedded teeth. I'll need to count them.
If you have 88 you'll be a dolphin.
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Post by TJrandom » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:19 am

Actually, now that I think about it, I no longer have that jaw bone - I left it at SFO since it would have been hand carry and I thought I might not make it thru screening. So I am back to 30...