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The New Science of How to Argue—Constructively
Disagreement is central to our lives online. ‘Erisologists’ want to study it more systematically.
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In the early days of the internet, way back in the 1990s, tech utopians envisioned a glittering digital future in which people from very different backgrounds could come together online and, if not reach consensus, at least learn something from one another. In the actual future we inhabit, things didn’t work out this way. The internet, especially social media, looks less like a dinner party and more like a riot. People talk past one another, and the discussion spirals down accordingly.
Some of this has to do with, well, people from very different backgrounds coming together online. A common trigger is when specialized term

when I first opened psychiatry is a scam chat on aol , there was not a lot of hostility .
there was some of what is called LULZ - people deliberately baiting me for laffs.
im sure everyone will agree cyberspace has deteriorated . jk

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You need to broaden your reading. There are a number of books currently available which show, with solid data back up, that the present is the best of all times to live in. Compared to any other time in history, it is a Golden Age. People live longer, are healthier, wealthier, better educated, are better housed, have better food, there is lower child mortality, lower death in child birth, more concern for minorities, more concern about the welfare of women, less of the terrible curses of murder, slavery, child labour, and pretty much each and every solid, measurable parameter affecting human welfare is better.

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Post by Major Malfunction » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:37 pm

I've been online since a mate and me found an ad in the local trading post newspaper for dial-up 2400 baud modems for $45. That was cheap.

We rode our motorbikes a long way to meet him in a back alley.

We did the deal.

We rode home.

Then we spent ages trying to learn how to configure the buggers to talk to each other.

Then we played Doom.

Ah, the good old days...
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:17 pm

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You need to broaden your reading. There are a number of books currently available which show, with solid data back up, that the present is the best of all times to live in. Compared to any other time in history, it is a Golden Age. People live longer, are healthier, wealthier, better educated, are better housed, have better food, there is lower child mortality, lower death in child birth, more concern for minorities, more concern about the welfare of women, less of the terrible curses of murder, slavery, child labour, and pretty much each and every solid, measurable parameter affecting human welfare is better.
solid date backup ??
what you say is true - but - since there are 8 billion people there has to be --- by number --- more murder , slavery , child abuse and every parameter affecting quality of life ; measurable or not .

not sure what this has to do with my post - lulz ?

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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Tue May 07, 2019 8:47 pm

TMZ Harvey Levin - Brittany spears medication is not working .
highest exposure celebrity getting the best help possible for the past several? years .
should video document everything , but the shrinks hide behind that bs confidentiality / for her own protection .

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Post by gorgeous » Tue May 07, 2019 10:51 pm

she is said to be mind controlled...it causes a breakdown in 30's...Bieber may have the same issue...medical treatment should be private
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gorgeous wrote:
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she is said to be mind controlled...it causes a breakdown in 30's...Bieber may have the same issue...medical treatment should be private
why private ? if your not doing anything wrong .
if your working hard to really help - there is nothing you and the vict er patient have to be ashamed of .
there was a video promoting a medication for schizophrenia .
they had nurses dancing with the patient to prove the med works ???
no concern for privacy when profit$$$ is involved .

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gorgeous wrote:
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she is said to be mind controlled...it causes a breakdown in 30's...Bieber may have the same issue...medical treatment should be private
mind controlled by father who is being helped by a shrink who is drugging her ?

that should be kept private ?

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medical treatment is private...don't know if dad is involved....she would probably be dead if he didn't have her committed, multiplied her wealth she was wasting
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Post by landrew » Sat May 11, 2019 3:44 pm

Many famous and talented people are pretty smart, and they are the ones who avoid the psychiatry trap, which if taken too far with drugs, can lead to a mind so far out of equilibrium that the person can barely function without a cocktail of drugs every day.

I had a cousin who wasn't famous, but he was so messed up from prescription drugs that it seemed like his personality had left the body, and all that was left was a crazy person.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Tue May 14, 2019 12:34 am

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Britney Spears Reportedly Tells Judge Her Dad Forced Her Into Mental Health Facility
TMZ reports that Spears made the accusation during a closed-door court session in Los Angeles.

this is probably the worse thing shrinks do .
by BS parents into going along with forced medication -
the child sees their parents as turning against them .
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gorgeous wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 3:34 pm
medical treatment is private...don't know if dad is involved....she would probably be dead if he didn't have her committed, multiplied her wealth she was wasting
that is true - and that would have been great . but the shrinks also forced her to experiment with synthetic garbage .
so she went from being tricked into partying ? with criminals ; to legal mental castration .

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britney is not allowed to drive...she is still unstable...she didn't know which car was hers when she's driven the same white mercedes for years...even I know which car is hers......not good.....
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37 25

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22 49
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Post by landrew » Sun May 19, 2019 3:22 pm

Have some compassion for someone who as a teenager, was thrust into the teeth of massive fame and fortune, surrounded by friend and foe, without knowing for sure which advice was constructive or destructive.

Not many of us could emerge from such an experience unscathed.
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she wanted to have dance lessons and be a star as a kid....she should quit
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gorgeous wrote:
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22 49
37 25 is their ages - what is 22 49 ?

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she wanted to have dance lessons and be a star as a kid....she should quit
why stop working ? gives hundreds of people who help her a paycheck to .
in time she will have to retire ; same as Madonna - er

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We'd all like fame, fortune and an easy life,
but unfortunately, they are usually mutually-exclusive.
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no fame
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When I first read of Achille's Heel, I thought: gee, I'd rather die anonymously of old age. Nothing has changed. Fame: living your own life as perceived in the eyes of others.

It always cracks me up, the notion of social approval. By and large: most people don't care about anyone else, even the famous ones.
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Boy wanted to 'juggle and be free.' He was shackled, starved and died. Crystal Hill 4 hrs ago

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If you're gonna write a song like that, you better donate all your profits, or you're gonna look like a hypocrite.
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SGB: A possible breakthrough treatment for PTSD
A simple DRUG shot in the neck could put PTSD sufferers on the path to recovery
Jun 16
Correspondent Bill Whitaker
been used for pain for decades ?

while looking for SGB info - also found this - kind of disappointing
Zap: How Electric Therapy Is Curing Navy SEALs of PTSD … And Could Remake Brain Science
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The incident occurred about 4 a.m. at the brink of the Horseshoe Falls. Park police officers witnessed the man climb a retaining wall, jump into the river and observed him being swept over the falls, said Paul Forcier, chief of the Niagara Parks Police Service.
The man, who was not identified by police, was found sitting on rocks near the Journey Behind the Falls observation platform after a search of the lower river, Forcier said in a news release.

have always believed that an alternative to meds would to be to do something exciting ie skydiving .
have to wonder why did this guy swim to shore ?

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When you start living for the chemicals, you've lost the point.
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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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A simple shot in the neck could put PTSD sufferers on the path to recovery
What calibre?
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Zap: How Electric Therapy Is Curing Navy SEALs of PTSD … And Could Remake Brain Science
Electroshock therapy isn't quite what it used to be in the '80s and earlier. My father was a psychiatric nurse around that time and told me how they (the doctors, not him. Tho' he did have to participate by sedating them, strapping them down, witnessing, and then wheeling them out and putting them in their beds and cleaning them up) would often use it as a compliance threat/punishment. Basically electrocution. "Do you want to go to electro therapy again? Well, take you meds, stop running around naked, masturbating, smearing {!#%@} everywhere, and trying to bite peoples' faces off. Get in the shower, put your gown on, and get into bed... "

But these days it's used much more subtly, and that shift was happening while he was there. The patients are sedated to unconsciousness, and the currents used are much lower. So they're not thrashing about like a fish outta water. They don't feel any discomfort at all. But he reckoned it worked. They were much more subdued and compliant for a few days.

There's good evidence that electro/magnetic impulses effect the brain and thinking/mood. There's a good possibility it can be used therapeutically in certain circumstances...

Enough not to entirely rule out.
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We had a psych patient who unscrewed his window frame and he jumped 3 floors to the ground: knocked him out. The social workers said he acted pretty normal for about 5 days thereafter. Ha, ha........you just need to get your mind off yourself. Any stimulus will do.
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Dad told me about one of those, too!

He dove head-first through a 3rd-storey window, did a flip, and landed flat on his back on the grass like a starfish.

Broke a few ribs.

Dad was laughing at him and saying, that's not how you commit suicide, Son.
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Dad told me about one of those, too!

He dove head-first through a 3rd-storey window, did a flip, and landed flat on his back on the grass like a starfish.

Broke a few ribs.

Dad was laughing at him and saying, that's not how you commit suicide, Son.
thanx - wonder , people who survive stuff like this , do they try something similar again , switch to chemicals ? or ?
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:00 pm

ECT definitely works. I have read several scientific accounts of investigations showing major benefits. MM is quite correct, though, in describing how it has been abused in the past. Sad really, since that has created suspicion and made it harder to use it responsibly to obtain excellent results.

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ECT definitely works. I have read several scientific accounts of investigations showing major benefits. MM is quite correct, though, in describing how it has been abused in the past. Sad really, since that has created suspicion and made it harder to use it responsibly to obtain excellent results.
thing is there is a lot of stigma to doing that shrink stuff -
and as long as the shrinks make money ; they will never try anything else .

no stigma with skydiving

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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SGB: A possible breakthrough treatment for PTSD
A simple DRUG shot in the neck could put PTSD sufferers on the path to recovery
Jun 16
Correspondent Bill Whitaker
been used for pain for decades ?

while looking for SGB info - also found this - kind of disappointing
Zap: How Electric Therapy Is Curing Navy SEALs of PTSD … And Could Remake Brain Science
By Patrick Tucker
Technology Editor
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January 20, 2019
https://www.rti.org/impact/study-stella ... d-symptoms



One treatment option increasingly recommended by physicians is known as stellate ganglion block (SGB). SGB is a local anesthetic injected into the stellate ganglion, a group of nerve cells and nerves in the neck that helps regulate the body's “fight or flight” mechanism.

oh and it was supposed to be about this sgb

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Dad told me about one of those, too!

He dove head-first through a 3rd-storey window, did a flip, and landed flat on his back on the grass like a starfish.

Broke a few ribs.

Dad was laughing at him and saying, that's not how you commit suicide, Son.
thanx - wonder , people who survive stuff like this , do they try something similar again , switch to chemicals ? or ?
should be a website for people to tell their stories
I didn't quite finish the story.

My Dad said, if you mean to commit suicide by jumping off a two or three storey building, you should be aiming to land on your head. Like a swan dive.

He was very pragmatic.
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Always good to give pragmatic advice to suicides..............................
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Well, something like males commit suicide 20 to 1 compared to females. And yet females attempt suicide 4x as much as males.

Just admit it. Blokes are better at getting the job done.
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It is actually 3 to 1 both ways. Males attempt suicide one third of the time, but succeed three times more frequently. That is because males use more violent methods, which are more effective. The most common suicide attempt method by females is overdose of sleeping pills, and only one attempt in 50 works. That is because all those pills stimulate violent vomiting.

The idea of jumping off a building and landing on your head has a flaw. Enough would be suicides by jumping have survived to give a better picture. The human brain forces the body to do its absolute best NOT to land head first, regardless of how motivated the would be suicide was to begin with. In fact, even for those people who really, really want to die, the process of falling stimulates incredible terror and a desire to survive.

One of the most common methods used by males is hanging. This is absolutely the worst possible way. People think that, because modern execution by hanging is supposedly quick and painless, then suicide by hanging will also be quick and painless. They could not be more wrong. Suicide by hanging is slow, excruciating, and incredibly painful. It takes five to ten minutes to die, and every second is utter hell.

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Post by Major Malfunction » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:44 am

I'd go with the old garden hose up the exhaust pipe.

It's not painful and doesn't leave a mess.

And you have time to change your mind.
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