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Fat Studies

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:57 pm

Fat Studies
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An Interdisciplinary Journal of Body Weight and Society

Yes really! :mrgreen:

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Fat pedagogy: Improving teaching and learning for everyBODY


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Fat pedagogy responds to the need for educational interventions to reduce weight-based oppression. Given the growth in fat studies–related courses, a need exists to identify best practices that improve the experiences of fat students, change the discourse around body weight, shape, and size, and challenge the social hierarchies and structures of dominance that perpetuate weight bias in educational contexts. The articles iSn this special issue, authored by an international, interdisciplinary group of scholars, describe their efforts to do so in both traditional and nontraditional educational spaces. The authors hope that the writings will inspire readers to develop, implement, and research fat pedagogy in their own educational settings.
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by Gord » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:45 pm

I remember the fictional weight-loss group from Third Rock from the Sun. It was called "Fat Losers" because it was a bunch of people who wanted to lose fat.

"I want to be a Fat Loser toooo!"
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:23 am

Every corrupt, fat, lazy, self deluded group forms an interdisciplinary group of advocates to support their continuing fantasies. The worst of them can even appoint special counsel.
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by karen_bubblegum » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:02 pm

Soon there'll be "Fat is the new black" or something. All puns intended.
Right after I wrote it, I googled it out of curiosity.
It already exists.
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Post by Gord » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:14 pm

karen_bubblegum wrote:Soon there'll be "Fat is the new black" or something. All puns intended.
Right after I wrote it, I googled it out of curiosity.
It already exists.
Jeez, it's everywhere.

http://www.fatisthenewblack.com/
https://www.onestoppaleoshop.com/produc ... 8683738499
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/patt-mor ... 11873.html
http://www.lawlercentre.com/fat-is-the-new-black/

And every link is about something different!

Fat is the new black is the new meme!
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by TJrandom » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:41 pm

I thought it was phat... great, wonderful...

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Re: Fat Studies

Post by Nikki Nyx » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:36 pm

Ridiculous. I refuse to consider people who create their own problems to be 'oppressed.' Put the damn Twinkie down, ffs, and go take a walk instead of wasting time rationalizing that being morbidly obese is normal and healthy when all medical evidence is against that belief.
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Nikki Nyx wrote:Ridiculous. I refuse to consider people who create their own problems to be 'oppressed.' Put the damn Twinkie down, ffs, and go take a walk instead of wasting time rationalizing that being morbidly obese is normal and healthy when all medical evidence is against that belief.
genes, various disorders, food additives that suppress or disrupt the endocrine system's signaling functions, higher than necessary sugars and fats in processed foods . . . people's metabolisms are not identical, people react differently to similar inputs.

The obesity epidemic would not exist if it were just a matter of free will (which may be just an illusion, anyhow).

Even if it were about free will, that does not justify catcalling, discrimination, marginalization, or any other form of bullying.
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by Nikki Nyx » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:20 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:Ridiculous. I refuse to consider people who create their own problems to be 'oppressed.' Put the damn Twinkie down, ffs, and go take a walk instead of wasting time rationalizing that being morbidly obese is normal and healthy when all medical evidence is against that belief.
genes, various disorders, food additives that suppress or disrupt the endocrine system's signaling functions, higher than necessary sugars and fats in processed foods . . . people's metabolisms are not identical, people react differently to similar inputs.

The obesity epidemic would not exist if it were just a matter of free will (which may be just an illusion, anyhow).

Even if it were about free will, that does not justify catcalling, discrimination, marginalization, or any other form of bullying.
Of course it doesn't! There's no excuse for any type of abuse. Re-reading my post, I realize that I sounded harsh and unsympathetic. That wasn't my intention.

There is a subset of people, mostly women, who are attempting to disseminate the narrative that being morbidly obese is perfectly healthy. They habitually post excoriating comments online about their physicians, usually when they have reported things like joint pain and the response has been, "You need to lose the excess weight that's putting abnormal pressure on your joints." They then complain that their doctor refused to treat their symptom.

What they're doing is akin to me justifying smoking cigarettes as 'perfectly healthy' and blaming any shortness of breath on something else, then insulting my doctor when she refuses to prescribe treatment for shortness of breath, but says, "You need to quit smoking." Of course I need to quit. The habit has zero redeeming qualities. And of course smoking is the cause in the context of an otherwise unremarkable exam (normal BP and heart rate, perfect ECG, lungs and heart normal on evaluation).

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the belief that being morbidly obese is healthy should be considered an eating disorder and treated appropriately, not normalized. We don't normalize anorexia or bulimia; we know those conditions are extremely dangerous. So is this.
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by OlegTheBatty » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:27 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote: I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the belief that being morbidly obese is healthy should be considered an eating disorder and treated appropriately, not normalized. We don't normalize anorexia or bulimia; we know those conditions are extremely dangerous. So is this.
Yes. I was considering noting that morbid obesity may well be as much an eating disorder as anorexia or bulimia. I decided to keep it simpler.
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:28 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote: Even if it were about free will, that does not justify catcalling, discrimination, marginalization, or any other form of bullying.
Catcalling does seem like bullying in all cases I can think of. Not so with discrimination or marginalization.....absent it being used as an excuse, seems to me one MUST descriminate or marginalize..... otherwise the boat is gonna sink and we won't get off this island.
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:34 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote: Even if it were about free will, that does not justify catcalling, discrimination, marginalization, or any other form of bullying.
Catcalling does seem like bullying in all cases I can think of. Not so with discrimination or marginalization.....absent it being used as an excuse, seems to me one MUST descriminate or marginalize..... otherwise the boat is gonna sink and we won't get off this island.
Marginalizing doesn't kick 'em off the boat, it sends them down to the bilge to keep the rats company.
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Post by Gord » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:51 am

"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by Nikki Nyx » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:01 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote: I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the belief that being morbidly obese is healthy should be considered an eating disorder and treated appropriately, not normalized. We don't normalize anorexia or bulimia; we know those conditions are extremely dangerous. So is this.
Yes. I was considering noting that morbid obesity may well be as much an eating disorder as anorexia or bulimia. I decided to keep it simpler.
You were right to call me out, IMO. My initial post came off as judgmental, which wasn't my intention. It stemmed from my annoyance with the culture of the perpetually offended.

Case in point: My daughter spent 20 minutes researching and writing a post about irregular menstruation in a women's health sub-reddit. Her post was deleted by the mod, who complained that she failed to attach a trigger warning, because not all women have uteri and not all women menstruate. Seriously? WTF? You can't read about a medical condition without being triggered, because you don't possess the organ in question? Ridiculous! With that attitude, there's no possible way to discuss women's health!

I tend to lose my patience when I'm expected to adhere to delusional BS, and when facts are considered offensive.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:24 pm

Nikki: thats totally unbelievable. So..how does any reddit subforum exist? And why ban a subject because someone doesn't have a part? No male has the part in issue.........I don't see the difference. Are men banned from the discussion rather than the entire subject????

News recently about political correctness going too far in combat against Free Speech. Evidently, taking place in more places than just elite university environments.

Sad............confusing.........sad.
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Post by TJrandom » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:01 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Nikki: thats totally unbelievable. So..how does any reddit subforum exist? And why ban a subject because someone doesn't have a part? No male has the part in issue.........I don't see the difference. Are men banned from the discussion rather than the entire subject????

News recently about political correctness going too far in combat against Free Speech. Evidently, taking place in more places than just elite university environments.

Sad............confusing.........sad.
I think they get past the `men don`t have the part` by rationalizing that men own women who do have the part. :roll:

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:21 pm

TJ--that doesn't sound quite right.......if this is a pc crowd, aka pro-feminist then one group "owning" another group is not acceptable. In fact, that may be why men are allowed to contribute so as to not discriminate against an entire sex? Only subsets thereof.

Does remind me of the hassle wifey got from her girl friends HUSBANDS who asked her if she still felt like a woman on being found sterile. Wifey and I both thought: "Can people be that stupid in this day and age?"==>and living in a so called "Bible Belt" of what started as a Farming Community, the answer was not only Yes.....but most were.
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"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Re: Fat Studies

Post by Nikki Nyx » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:26 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Nikki: thats totally unbelievable.
What is?
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:So..how does any reddit subforum exist? And why ban a subject because someone doesn't have a part? No male has the part in issue.........I don't see the difference. Are men banned from the discussion rather than the entire subject????
I'm not following you here.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:21 pm

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Post by Nikki Nyx » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:49 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Nikki: thats totally unbelievable. So..how does any reddit subforum exist?
While reddit has its own terms and conditions, the owners of sub-reddits may establish their own sets of rules on top of those.
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:And why ban a subject because someone doesn't have a part? No male has the part in issue.........I don't see the difference. Are men banned from the discussion rather than the entire subject????
I don't know whether they ban men who wish to participate. Based on how my daughter's post was treated, I'm willing to bet they would ban a man...even if he were a world-renowned OB/GYN doc.
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:News recently about political correctness going too far in combat against Free Speech. Evidently, taking place in more places than just elite university environments..
I agree. The worst ones are those who wish to censor others, but demand fully free speech for themselves.
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Post by Nikki Nyx » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:02 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Does remind me of the hassle wifey got from her girl friends HUSBANDS who asked her if she still felt like a woman on being found sterile.
By that logic, women who have gone through menopause no longer 'feel like' women, which is complete BS. An inability to reproduce doesn't change one's chromosomes. Do men who require Viagra still 'feel like' men? How about male paraplegics?

I don't feel like less of a woman because I hate shopping. Or because I keep my fingernails short and unpolished. Or because I know how to use power tools. Or because I drink beer and whiskey, not sweet cocktails.

While my opinion may not be PC, I think the current blathering about gender is ridiculous. Most of it is made-up nonsense. I mean, take a look at this:
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:16 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote:Or because I keep my fingernails short and unpolished. Or because I know how to use power tools.
Pro-tip : Use a normal nail file and you will reduce your future electricity bills. :mrgreen:

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:lol:
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Post by Nikki Nyx » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:24 pm

:rotfl:
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