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Re: English multitopic

Post by Monster » Fri May 27, 2016 2:02 pm

I find it highly annoying that this:

"The line to see the movie is really long. I don't want to wait in line."

has changed to this:

"The line to see the movie is really long. I don't want to wait on line."

It seemed that "in line" changed to "on line" when "online" (for connectivity to the internet) had entered the English lexicon. This bothers me quite a lot.
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Post by fromthehills » Fri May 27, 2016 2:17 pm

That would bother me too, but I haven't heard it.

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Post by Gord » Fri May 27, 2016 7:29 pm

I'd correct it if I ever heard it.

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Post by Monster » Fri May 27, 2016 7:31 pm

I hear it all the time. It's prevalent in American media, and simply talking to the people around me I hear it a lot.
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Post by Gord » Fri May 27, 2016 7:34 pm

I still correct people who tell me to "crack the window".
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Re: English multitopic

Post by JO 753 » Fri May 27, 2016 7:49 pm

It iz illojikal

It's illojikal

It iz not lojikal

It's not lojikal

It izn't lojikal
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Fri May 27, 2016 9:45 pm

Gord wrote:I still correct people who tell me to "crack the window".
Why not just crack the window. If they wanted it opened a bit, they would say so.
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Post by Gord » Fri May 27, 2016 11:17 pm

I've threatened to do it, but they always stop me. Sometimes they remove all heavy objects from my vicinity as well, just in case.
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Post by fromthehills » Sat May 28, 2016 2:40 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gord wrote:I still correct people who tell me to "crack the window".
Why not just crack the window. If they wanted it opened a bit, they would say so.
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Re: English multitopic

Post by fromthehills » Sun May 29, 2016 2:44 pm

I'm not a fan of the word "impact" being used in place of effect, affect, or influence. However, I understand that I'm out numbered. What really makes my skin crawl is that much of mainstream media uses "impactfulness " and don't immediately check themselves into an insane asylum.

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Post by Austin Harper » Tue May 31, 2016 6:11 pm

I've only heard people say "on line" in New York and maybe Boston. Everywhere else in the US and Canada I've heard "in line".
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Post by JO 753 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:03 am

Sum peepl are saying "O my god" way too much. Anything thats amazing enuf to widen their eyelidz by 1/2 a millimeter forsez them to say it.

The same peepl also say "I'm not gunu lie" without fail befor saying sumthing uncomplimentary or, uv course, lying.

Either this iz a widespred trend or there iz a jiant Screen Actorz Gild membership group that specializez in trash TV appearensez.
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Post by Gord » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:14 am

I say "Oh my god" too much on purpose as a form of impromptu live-action sketch comedy.
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Post by JO 753 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:37 am

Wutevr gets the laffs going for you!
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Post by TJrandom » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:29 am

My neighbour says O M G.. and he is a Buddhist/Shintoist. Me thinks he has watched too many movies.

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Post by OlegTheBatty » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:09 pm

TJrandom wrote:My neighbour says O M G.. and he is a Buddhist/Shintoist. Me thinks he has watched too many movies.
He sounds like an awesome groovy dude, man. Sweet!
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Re: English multitopic

Post by Gord » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:41 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_pepper
The chili pepper (also chile pepper or chilli pepper...)
I wish people would pick one and stick with it!!!

I've been reading recipe sites, and I keep encountering "chili", "chilli", and worst of all, "chile". Some people are so indecisive, they use all three versions of the spelling in the same recipe!

(Incidentally, the correct spelling is "chilli" with two ells and I will bite you if you don't agree. I've had to bite myself several time over this because I keep spelling it "chili" and in fact I prefer it with one ell but shut up.)
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Post by Poodle » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:47 pm

You're safe, Gord. According to the OED, you can only use chili or even chile if you're in the US.

As you're not, then it's chilli. As it is for me.

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Post by fromthehills » Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:50 pm

Chile is the way I learned to spell it. Southwest US spelling derived from the Spanish pronunciation. I prefer this spelling.

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Post by fromthehills » Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:51 pm

Now, I think it is actually th Spanish spelling.

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Post by JO 753 » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:50 pm

squalor. A 1 word description for the languaje
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Post by Poodle » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:06 pm

JO 753 wrote:squalor. A 1 word description for the languaje
" ... extremely dirty and unpleasant, especially as a result of poverty or neglect".

You sure that's what you meant, JO?

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Post by JO 753 » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:12 pm

Pozitiv. 100%. Its perfect.
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Post by fromthehills » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:41 pm

Ah, Jo's common squall

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Post by JO 753 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:17 am

A sudden violent gust of wind or a localized storm, especially one bringing rain, snow, or sleet?

Thats the noun form. But you meant the verb:

(of a baby or small child) cry noisily and continuously.

Wich provez wut I sed 2 wayz.

1. The verb form 'squall' iz unuzable without adding 'ing'. Anything else you mite figure out either duznt work grammaticly or will get you condemd by the spelling cops under article 438 violation 'thats not a word'.

2. Adding 'or' to 'squall' chanjez it to a completely different unassociated meaning. (and deleting the superflous 'L')

English iz a rats nest uv disorganization rezulting from sloppy thinking, bad luck and neglect; squalor.
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Re: English multitopic

Post by Poodle » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:55 pm

Dear Marge

I think it's shameful that no one has posted in this topic since 7th June. I would be very grateful if you corrected this oversight.

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Post by Gord » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:42 pm

Poodle wrote:Dear Marge
Is that short for Margarine?
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Post by Poodle » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:34 pm

No - that's marge. This is Marge.

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Poodle wrote:No - that's marge. This is Marge.
:scratch: I don't see anything.
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Post by Poodle » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:33 pm

It's invisible Marge.

At least, she's awfully small.


Wait - this isn't a British-only forum, so ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Proops

... where I discover I've got her name wrong anyway :oops:

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Post by Gord » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:40 pm

See, if you'd said "Marje", we never would have had this issue.
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Post by Monster » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:10 pm

At the DMV in White Plains, NY, I heard "next person on line" over and over.
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Post by Monster » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:18 pm

There's a linguistic oddity in English that I suspect can't be cured. I haven't heard the same thing in Spanish. Perhaps it exists. That is, the negatively-worded question.

Example.
A crane fell on the Tappan Zee bridge today. A friend of mine asked me, "you don't take the Tappan Zee bridge when going home, do you?"

Some people would say "no" as a short way to say "I don't take it." Personally I think that saying "no" or "yes" is too ambiguous. So, when I get questions that are phrased like that, I give a more complete answer which eradicates all ambiguity. For example, I say, "Correct, I don't."

Also, for negatively-worded questions, I prefer using "correct" rather than "right", since "right" is also a facing.

If I must answer such a question negatively (that is, where I am disagreeing with the assumption), I again use a more complete form, such as, "I do take the Tappan Zee home."
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Post by TJrandom » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:41 pm

Monster wrote:At the DMV in White Plains, NY, I heard "next person on line" over and over.
Yup - handling online customers - face to face. :lol:

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:49 pm

I think it was DMV I got pissed waiting in line long enough, get to the window, and the agent takes a phone call for 3 minutes while I stand there looking like I can't leave because I need a license. "On the Phone" takes precedence over "On line." Too bad there isn't more on service?
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Monster wrote:There's a linguistic oddity in English that I suspect can't be cured. I haven't heard the same thing in Spanish. Perhaps it exists. That is, the negatively-worded question.

Example.
A crane fell on the Tappan Zee bridge today. A friend of mine asked me, "you don't take the Tappan Zee bridge when going home, do you?"

Some people would say "no" as a short way to say "I don't take it." Personally I think that saying "no" or "yes" is too ambiguous. So, when I get questions that are phrased like that, I give a more complete answer which eradicates all ambiguity. For example, I say, "Correct, I don't."

Also, for negatively-worded questions, I prefer using "correct" rather than "right", since "right" is also a facing.

If I must answer such a question negatively (that is, where I am disagreeing with the assumption), I again use a more complete form, such as, "I do take the Tappan Zee home."
I agree completely. When I answer them, I say "yes" if what they've said is correct, and they always have to ask me if I meant "yes you are correct" or "yes I do that thing you mentioned".

"You didn't take my meatloaf, right?"
"Yes."
"Yes you took it, or yes you didn't take it?"
"Yes."
"Yes to which question?"
"Yes to all your questions."
"Why can't you give a straight answer!"
"I can. Try asking a straight question."
"DID YOU TAKE MY MEATLOAF?!"
"No."
"Thank you!"
"Don't thank me, I didn't even know you had a meatloaf."
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Post by JO 753 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:10 pm

Meatloaf. gggggg. Anything soundz delicious wen you havent eaten in 3 dayz.
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Post by Poodle » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:28 pm

Meatloaf is one of those things which prove that there is no god. There is absolutely no purpose whatsoever in the existence of meatloaf.



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Post by Monster » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:00 pm

Earthquakes. When those happen on Mars, they're not marsquakes. They're either quakes or earthquakes. Earth is a synonym for "dirt" and "ground" afterall. When people say "earthquake" on Earth, they're saying the equivalent of "ground-quakes", not "this is a quake on Earth".
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Post by TJrandom » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:10 pm

Gravity quakes?