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Post by JO 753 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:48 am

Austin Harper wrote:What is the problem with these idioms?
Az long az you know wut they mean, therez nothing rong. If you dont, they are essentially jibberish. Like Cockney, you simply haf to know. It may seem like a clever turn uv fraze wen they are created and the meaning wuz apparent, but to outsiderz after its just an idiom, there iz no wit.
As far as I know, the term "Easter egg" comes from programming in the 70s meaning an undocumented feature of a program; maybe a command not listed in the user manual. They are called that because they are hidden like you hide an Easter egg. The term has expanded since then to mean something hidden in almost any context,..
There yu go with that fag talk agen!

By your definition, that qualifyz az an easter egg.

So the can uv Tab on the dashboard in The Gauntlet iz an easter egg! Product plasement iz just a subcatagory now.
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JO 753 wrote:
Austin Harper wrote:What is the problem with these idioms?
Az long az you know wut they mean, therez nothing rong. If you dont, they are essentially jibberish. Like Cockney, you simply haf to know. It may seem like a clever turn uv fraze wen they are created and the meaning wuz apparent, but to outsiderz after its just an idiom, there iz no wit.
It sounds as if you're complaining that people have to learn things. Like you're complaining about something so elementary that it's like you're complaining that water is wet.
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Re: English multitopic

Post by Austin Harper » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:11 pm

JO 753 wrote:
Austin Harper wrote:What is the problem with these idioms?
Az long az you know wut they mean, therez nothing rong. If you dont, they are essentially jibberish. Like Cockney, you simply haf to know. It may seem like a clever turn uv fraze wen they are created and the meaning wuz apparent, but to outsiderz after its just an idiom, there iz no wit.
By that logic we should limit our entire vocabulary since people might not know what some words mean.
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As far as I know, the term "Easter egg" comes from programming in the 70s meaning an undocumented feature of a program; maybe a command not listed in the user manual. They are called that because they are hidden like you hide an Easter egg. The term has expanded since then to mean something hidden in almost any context,..
There yu go with that fag talk agen!

By your definition, that qualifyz az an easter egg.

So the can uv Tab on the dashboard in The Gauntlet iz an easter egg! Product plasement iz just a subcatagory now.
I don't know what you mean by "fag talk". I've also never seen The Gauntlet so I don't know what's happening in the scene but assuming you're talking about this then it's not an Easter egg, since it's not hidden in any way whereas the hieroglyphs are a hidden joke about Harrison Ford's involvement with Star Wars before Indiana Jones.
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Re: English multitopic

Post by JO 753 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:44 pm

Austin Harper wrote:I don't know what you mean by "fag talk".
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I've also never seen The Gauntlet so I don't know what's happening in the scene but assuming you're talking about this then it's not an Easter egg, since it's not hidden in any way
Yes, thats the sene.

Iz it hidden if you dont know there really iz such a thing az Tab?
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote: ... A table is not a stage...
I`ve seen girls in bars who acted as if they were the same.... :hmm:

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Post by Gord » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:42 am

Pics or it didn't happen.
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Re: English multitopic

Post by Gord » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:55 pm

Have I complained about the "lay/lie" thing lately?

I was watching a comedian on TV, and he kept talking about how he was "laying down" or "laying around", and all I could hear was him saying he was "having sex with feathers" or "sleeping around". I'll bet he would've been a lot funnier if he could speak the friggin' language!! :irk:
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Post by Monster » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:44 am

Lay/lie bother me.
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Post by Gord » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:22 am

:rotfl:

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=ch ... he%20couch
Did you mean: lying on the couch
Oh, Google! All is forgiven, I love you man....
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Post by Gord » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:42 am

No, more like

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Post by Gord » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:28 am

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Post by Gord » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:08 pm

I've been debating giving up the word "anymore" and switching to the term "any more" instead. Today I finally decided, yeah, sure, why not, I'll switch.

Because apparently "anymore" isn't really a word. I mean, despite the fact that it clearly is a word, by any good definition of the term.

Here's what I'm talking about: http://alt-usage-english.org/anymore.html

I'm tempted to post the whole article here, but I think it's important to leave something there because if you're really interested you will click the link and give meaning to the life of whoever posted it on that website -- the one or two more hits they'll receive because of me will surely send them into orgasmotronic joy.
Opinion concerning "anymore" vs "any more" divides roughly into three camps:

1. There is no such word as "anymore". It is simply a misspelling.
2. "Anymore" and "any more" are two ways of spelling the same thing, and the two have the same meaning.
3. There is a useful difference in meaning between the two....

...The distinction of "any more" and "anymore" seems to be recognized by many, but not all, US users and by dictionaries published in the US. At least one British dictionary (NSOED/93) and some British users recognize "anymore" as an alternative spelling of "any more", but do not recognize a difference in meaning....
As I'm sure very few people know, I am Canadian and I despise American spelling. :P Therefore, despite the fact that I was taught that "anymore" is a good and proper word, I am now spurning it. Spurning! :shakefist: (If that were the only reason, I still might actually do it, but I have other reasons anyway so...whatevs!)

Also, just for my own feeling of joy, here's a link to the Grammarist website about this same topic: http://grammarist.com/spelling/anymore-or-any-more/ It's an American website. I go there often. It...pleases me.
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Post by Gord » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:13 pm

And speaking of the Grammarist, here's an interesting factoid about deserts, desserts, and just deserts: http://grammarist.com/spelling/just-des ... -desserts/
The expression meaning that which is deserved was originally just deserts. The phrase is the last refuge of an obsolete meaning of desert -- namely, something that is deserved or merited. But because most modern English speakers are unfamiliar with that old sense of desert, the phrase is often understandably written just desserts.
Just when you* might have thought you finally had a handle on the word "desert" (a bunch of sand) and "dessert" (sweet and tasty), they** pull you back in! :twisted:



*if not you then someone else
**me; I am them
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Post by ElectricMonk » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:07 pm

IT CAME FOR DESSERT!

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Post by Austin Harper » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:34 pm

So you don't have any more use for "anymore" anymore?
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Post by Gord » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:04 pm

I'm merely trying to avoid it for now. If I can manage to change this one thing about myself, I will consider myself to have accomplished something in 2016 and can rest on my laurels for the remainder of the decade.

And then die. :)
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Post by JO 753 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:31 pm

Gord wrote:, but I have other reasons anyway so...whatevs!
No anymore, so any way

The problem with lexicograferz iz that they dont lissen very well.
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"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:16 pm

Gord wrote:I've been debating giving up the word "anymore" and switching to the term "any more" instead. Today I finally decided, yeah, sure, why not, I'll switch.
Actually, I was going to ask you about "any more" before you brought this up. I use English language spell checkers and I get confused between the correct English spelling and what may be an Australian variation.

As a rule I try to only use English spelling. I think that older people still judge "first contact" from strangers, like myself, based on spelling and grammar, in my introductory letter or email.

Accountants wear ties, simply to show that they are organised enough to wear a tie. Good grammar, in an introductory letter, is a bit like that. :D

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Post by JO 753 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:23 pm

anywhere nowhere everywhere

anything nothing everything

anymore nomore everymore

anyhow nohow everyhow

anywhen nowhen everywhen
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:31 pm

JO 753 wrote:anywhere nowhere everywhere
anything nothing everything
anymore nomore everymore
anyhow nohow everyhow
anywhen nowhen everywhen
It is actually a common form of self-deprecating Australian humour to totally screw up English, when in public.

"When will youse guys learn to speak proper English?" (youse is the fake collective term for "you")

"See those stairs going down, which are coming up?" ( helpful advise in the most confusing way possible)

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Post by Poodle » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:33 pm

advice

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:39 pm

Poodle wrote:advice
Bastard. :D

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Post by Poodle » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:41 pm

If only I knew how to do invisible text. As I posted that, I said to myself "Matt's response will be one word - bastard".

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Post by JO 753 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:18 am

I think therez wite available in the color palet. It will at least make it hard to see on the lite bloo.
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Post by Gord » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:10 am

I used to be able to find out the background colour of a webpage, but friggin' Microsoft and it's horrible accomplice Chrome don't allow for that any more -- at least, not the easy, simple, obvious way that was so obvious that even I could obviously do it, obviously. Maybe there's still a way, but you probably have to pay them for the secret information with blood or sperm or bloodsperm or something.
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Post by TJrandom » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:17 am

JO 753 wrote:I think therez wite available in the color palet. It will at least make it hard to see on the lite bloo.
More so if you have changed your background color from light blue to absence of color.... :(

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Re: English multitopic

Post by Monster » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:54 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
JO 753 wrote:anywhere nowhere everywhere
anything nothing everything
anymore nomore everymore
anyhow nohow everyhow
anywhen nowhen everywhen
It is actually a common form of self-deprecating Australian humour to totally screw up English, when in public.

"When will youse guys learn to speak proper English?" (youse is the fake collective term for "you")

"See those stairs going down, which are coming up?" ( helpful advise in the most confusing way possible)
Some New Yorkers use youse. I actually saw a construction worker speaking that way like it was a normal word. It sounded stupid to me. Personally, I prefer "y'all", which I've been saying since I was a child. English really needs a plural "you".
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Post by JO 753 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:39 pm

It haz it. Its just that the elitist conservativ educatorz and their students dont aksept innovationz that dont orijinate in their ivy covered connformity factoryz.
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Post by Poodle » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:53 pm

JO's right about English having that plural. It's 'you'. The singular version has been lost in the ravages of time - 'thou'. And hence thee and thine.

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Post by Gord » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:19 pm

Monster wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
JO 753 wrote:anywhere nowhere everywhere
anything nothing everything
anymore nomore everymore
anyhow nohow everyhow
anywhen nowhen everywhen
It is actually a common form of self-deprecating Australian humour to totally screw up English, when in public.

"When will youse guys learn to speak proper English?" (youse is the fake collective term for "you")

"See those stairs going down, which are coming up?" ( helpful advise in the most confusing way possible)
Some New Yorkers use youse. I actually saw a construction worker speaking that way like it was a normal word. It sounded stupid to me. Personally, I prefer "y'all", which I've been saying since I was a child. English really needs a plural "you".
Northwestern Ontarians, too. The farmers I knew in my youth would says "youse guys" and I would laugh. Then they would try to correct themselves by saying "youse guyses" and I would laugh again. Then they would kick my ass and cut the fences between our properties so their cows could graze on our hay. Good memories, good memories....
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Re: English multitopic

Post by TJrandom » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:43 am

When Ted Cruz speaks – at the end of sentences he does a little face-freeze. A closed (almost) lips smile. His head jumps a bit into position, slightly on an angle – but always the same, as if finding a pre-determined little slot.

Is there an English word for this little mannerism?

EDIT… a habitual pose, a habitual mannerism, a fake smile, a forced smile… the mark of a lizard, or devil. Someone needs to check his head for the mark of the beast.

https://www.quora.com/What-does-Ted-Cru ... -about-him
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Post by Gord » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:46 am

Brain damage?
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Post by Gord » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:29 am

...oh wait, you said "a word". How about "deranged"?
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Post by Poodle » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:42 am

GOTO 10

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Post by TJrandom » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:50 am

Poodle wrote:GOTO 10
Infantile? Programmed? Defunct?

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TJrandom wrote:
Poodle wrote:GOTO 10
Infantile? Programmed? Defunct?
More like 'reset'.

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Poodle wrote:
TJrandom wrote:
Poodle wrote:GOTO 10
Infantile? Programmed? Defunct?
More like 'reset'.
So that is what he is doing - rebooting?

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Post by Gord » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:41 pm

How do you pronounce "ye"?

It's pronounced "the".

It's all because of the old letter, þorn. Þorn (or þorn) is a letter in the Old English, Gothic, Old Norse and modern Icelandic alphabets, as well as some dialects of Middle English, and was pronounced pretty much like the "th" in "thorn" or "thing".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(le ... rn_English
The modern digraph th began to grow in popularity during the 14th century; at the same time, the shape of thorn grew less distinctive, with the letter losing its ascender (becoming similar in appearance to the old wynn (Ƿ, ƿ), which had fallen out of use by 1300, and to ancient through modern P, p). In some hands, such as that of the scribe of the unique mid-15th-century manuscript of The Boke of Margery Kempe, it ultimately became indistinguishable from the letter Y. By this stage, th was predominant and the use of thorn was largely restricted to certain common words and abbreviations. In William Caxton's pioneering printed English, it is rare except in an abbreviated the, written with a thorn and a superscript E. This was the longest-lived use, though the substitution of Y for thorn soon became ubiquitous, leading to the common 'ye', as in 'Ye Olde Curiositie Shoppe'. One major reason for this was that Y existed in the printer's type fonts that were imported from Germany or Italy, while thorn did not. The word was never pronounced with a "y" sound, though, even when so written....
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