The Facts on Spanking

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The Facts on Spanking

Post by Antz » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:06 pm

This is a very important video, please circulate it far and wide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRfflggBg

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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:10 pm

Typical use of a default PowerPoint template...

Communicating the message would have been much more efficient if it had been presented as a web page--absent the PowerPoint template--with the various graphs and charts embedded, instead of a very slow 17-minute video.
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by bigtim » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:57 am

OP is trying to get hits for their little youtube foray?
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Post by Major Malfunction » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:30 am

Spanking Fact #1: It stings.
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Post by Bunyip » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:04 am

17 Minutes, no, I don't think so. Perhaps the OP could provide a summary.

I make the broad observation that people who use the word "fact", with the hyperbole of the OP often mean "this is my opinion about which I feel strongly"

My opinion: I think it is wrong to hit a child. Period. This is a personal moral value about which I do not argue.I have no children through choice; I can't stand the little turds.Neither do I have the arrogance to presume to tell any parent how to bring up their child.
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Major Malfunction » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:03 am

Bunyip wrote:I have no children through choice; I can't stand the little turds.

You fail at Life.

But at least you're honest about it.

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Post by Bunyip » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:31 am

Major Malfunction wrote:
Bunyip wrote:I have no children through choice; I can't stand the little turds.

You fail at Life.

But at least you're honest about it.

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How very impertinent of you. Go fcuk yourself.
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Major Malfunction » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:03 am

Bunyip wrote:How very impertinent of you. Go fcuk yourself.

Check the handle, mofo. Sorry to make you sad.

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The Facts on Spanking

Post by fromthehills » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:22 am

Spanking is for parents that can't outwit the child.

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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Antz » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:11 pm

Hey I don't see how this is opinion dressed as fact? He backs all stats up with multiple studies?

I think some people are very cold in response here, I know some people would like it to be in a doc format, I'd also appreciate the opportunity to copy and paste but it is a philosophy show that covers various topics and has a large following who are used to the video format

personally I like it because I can listen to the dialogue while attending to my inbox

I don't see why it matters if it's typical power point presentation or not? the point is the information that is being discussed
what the hell? why so petty

this is a very important topic, more peaceful rearing of children will lead to a more peaceful society
parents who rear children using solutions other than violence, in doing so, teach their children that there are solutions other than violence
using violence only teaches that might makes right

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Post by Bunyip » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:34 pm

Check the handle, mofo. .


Why? Is that supposed to excuse common rudeness? It doesn't.
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by fromthehills » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:43 pm

I can only speak from my own bias, as a once abused child. I made it without going to prison or anything, and don't believe in spanking, even though the urge is strong to do so sometimes. I was hit far beyond what we would call " spanking", but it was probably the cause of my violent nature when I was younger. Or maybe I was just an {!#%@}. It's easier to blame the guy that used to kick the crap out of his kids.

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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Bunyip » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:55 pm

more peaceful rearing of children will lead to a more peaceful society


Opinion unsupported by credible evidence.

parents who rear children using solutions other than violence, in doing so, teach their children that there are solutions other than violence


Indeed.,but that is not to say violence is never a legitimate means to an end.


using violence only teaches that might makes right


Opinion and value judgement masquerading as fact. Using violence MAY teach might is right. There is no evidence of which I'm aware which supports your claim.

You imply 'might makes right' is factually incorrect and immoral. I agree it's immoral,but it's my observation that is how the world actually works.

My perception is you have presented a value system and opinions as fact,but have not supported them with sufficient evidence to infer any general principles.
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by bigtim » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:06 am

ummm yeah... sorry, but "time outs" don't really cut it some of the time. A firm swat on the bottom can get a kid's attention and force a change in their behavior that "talking" would never be able to do.
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Post by Major Malfunction » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:29 am

Bunyip wrote:
Check the handle, mofo. .


Why? Is that supposed to excuse common rudeness? It doesn't.

Sorry, mate. It's just a statement of fact. If you don't have viable offspring, you literally fail at Life. If facts make you cry, you're probably on the wrong forum.

Besides, do you think calling all kids "little turds" isn't insulting?
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Gord » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:49 am

I favour mailing children to the North Pole.

Also, I like to sleep under bridges and leap out at people to demand food and/or money from them when they try to cross. However, this does not make me a troll. Having a troll for a mother might have something to do with it, but I believe more testing is in order to make that determination.

I think my point is that I don't want to discount spanking as an option, but I also know it's probably due to my intense dislike for the noisy little spoilt wads-of-other-people's-DNA-made-manifest.
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Re: The Facts on Spanking

Post by Major Malfunction » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:33 am

Haha! They are little bundles of bodily excretions... But they're soo cute!
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The Facts on Spanking

Post by fromthehills » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:35 am

My opinion is: if one condones the whipping of a child, then one should probably condone the whipping of an adult, as well.

It was called, and rightly so, "whipping" when I was a kid. To me "spanking" sounds like a fetish thing between consenting adults. None of my business, though.