The high cost of electric vehicles

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The high cost of electric vehicles

Post by MikeN » Fri May 17, 2019 6:45 pm

An Illinois legislator is proposing an annual registration fee of $1000 for electric vehicles, along with an increase of the gas tax from 19c to 24c per gallon, to fund infrastructure. As electric vehicles are widely adopted, they will not be allowed to free ride and will be asked to pay for roads which are generally funded by gas taxes. An annual registration fee like this would essentially kill sales, while this is just a tax increase of about $100-$200 for gas powered cars. The bigger cost I see for electric cars, is that states would adopt a tax per mile driven, and would enforce this with a system of tracking all cars with GPS.

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Re: The high cost of electric vehicles

Post by Austin Harper » Fri May 17, 2019 6:59 pm

These are numbers are just round numbers to estimate typical use, but if you drive 15,000 miles/year and get 30 mpg that's a total cost of $95/year at 19¢ or $120 at 24¢. Charging electric cars 10x that amount is ridiculous, but charging an extra $100 on registration seems reasonable. Or if you want to track actual miles driven you don't even need GPS, you just need to log mileage off of the odometer when you renew your plates, although that would also include mileage driven outside of the state.
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Re: The high cost of electric vehicles

Post by OlegTheBatty » Fri May 17, 2019 8:30 pm

People who don't drive benefit from roads too. Where do you think the food in the supermarket comes from - farms in the basement?

Funding roads from gas taxes is already giving some people a free ride.
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Re: The high cost of electric vehicles

Post by Lance Kennedy » Fri May 17, 2019 9:38 pm

Several nations in Europe have already set political goals that include banning internal combustion from new car sales, so that all new cars will be electric. This will take effect on various dates, but starting by about 2030. Obviously those cars will be taxed in some way or another to pay for roads.

CNN claims that by 2040, 57% of all cars will be electric.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/15/busi ... index.html

They are already cheaper to run than fossil fuel propelled cars, and the new price is dropping rapidly. Soon a new electric car will be cheaper than one run by fuel.

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Re: The high cost of electric vehicles

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat May 18, 2019 5:02 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 8:30 pm
People who don't drive benefit from roads too. Where do you think the food in the supermarket comes from - farms in the basement?

Funding roads from gas taxes is already giving some people a free ride.
the cost of transportation is included in the food cost. As is the cost of rail transport and air freight. No free ride. //// This raises the question as to where to place a tax and how different points have different effects. I'm curious what a real expert might know about such things..........
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Re: The high cost of electric vehicles

Post by OlegTheBatty » Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:02 am
OlegTheBatty wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 8:30 pm
People who don't drive benefit from roads too. Where do you think the food in the supermarket comes from - farms in the basement?

Funding roads from gas taxes is already giving some people a free ride.
the cost of transportation is included in the food cost. As is the cost of rail transport and air freight. No free ride. //// This raises the question as to where to place a tax and how different points have different effects. I'm curious what a real expert might know about such things..........
You have counties that are allowing paved roads to return to gravel because they can't afford to maintain them, but, of course, that can't be because of the way you are managing things . . .
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