The contradictions of the Nuremberg Laws, proof of Aryan ancestry, and Rassenschande

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Re: The contradictions of the Nuremberg Laws, proof of Aryan ancestry, and Rassenschande

Post by Goody67 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:16 am

The biggest inconsistency, however, was between Hitler’s personal life and his ideology. Hitler demanded of others what he was unprepared to fulfill himself. He was a hypocrite of colossal proportions. He insisted on the primacy of physical health, but he was rejected for service in the Austrian military because of his poor health. Nazi police arrested vagrants and sent them to concentration camps, even though Hitler had been a vagrant in Vienna before World War I. He idealized labor, calling it the quintessential Aryan trait, but he never held a normal job in his life. Urging every (other) healthy German to marry and procreate as prolifically as possible, he refused to marry (until the last day of his life) and never had any children.

His elite SS men had to prove pure Aryan ancestry, but Hitler did not know who his paternal grandfather was, so he was unable to refute rumors that he had Jewish blood (the rumors likely had no basis, but not even Hitler was entirely sure of that at the time). Hitler’s brown hair hardly matched the Aryan ideal by which other people were judged. The central elements of Hitler’s ideology may have been internally consistent, but he did not seem at all concerned about bringing his own life into harmony with it.
Richard Weikart, Hitler's Ethic: The Nazi Pursuit of Evolutionary Progress, pp. 10-11.

Any author writing about Hitler cannot ignore the fact that his paternal grandfather to this day remains unknown. Race was such a key aspect of Nazism and yet Hitler, as leader, could not even provide sufficient proof of his own ancestry. Unless one of course accepts without question the authenticity of Johann Georg Hiedler's identity as his paternal grandfather, despite the fact that he was only declared to be the father twenty years after his death.

Although being Nordic was not a requirement, it was certainly the ideal image, and Hitler's own image was hardly that of a Nordic German man.

One question that remains problematic in attempting to answer - why did Hitler choose to have no children?
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Re: The contradictions of the Nuremberg Laws, proof of Aryan ancestry, and Rassenschande

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:40 am

Just an aside about Weikart: His book, Hitler's Ethic, is one of the worst books I've read on our painful topic. Weikart is associated with and funded by the Discovery Institute, an "intelligent design" outfit. Weikert seems to think that Hitler was a Darwinian, and Hitler's Ethic is an ideological effort to use Nazism to attack and disgrace Darwin and evolutionary science by alleging influence on and continuity through Hitler.
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Re: The contradictions of the Nuremberg Laws, proof of Aryan ancestry, and Rassenschande

Post by Denying-History » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:26 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:40 am
Just an aside about Weikart: His book, Hitler's Ethic, is one of the worst books I've read on our painful topic. Weikart is associated with and funded by the Discovery Institute, an "intelligent design" outfit. Weikert seems to think that Hitler was a Darwinian, and Hitler's Ethic is an ideological effort to use Nazism to attack and disgrace Darwin and evolutionary science by alleging influence on and continuity through Hitler.
Weikert is a political historian with a very clear political message that he wants to construct. He selectively chooses his sources (not to say Richard Carrier isn’t selective) and a perfect example is when he put forward his case that Hitler was a pantheist who didn’t believe in an afterlife. Carrier wrote a semi-selective critique of Weikert pointing out some distortions in another book of his:

https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/11792

Carrier has his own issues, but I think for the most part his critique is pretty accurate. Ignoring the controversial nature of the topic that is.

Sorry to drive us off topic, but thought this would be important to note.
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Re: The contradictions of the Nuremberg Laws, proof of Aryan ancestry, and Rassenschande

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:26 pm

Thanks, appreciated, I haven't read any critiques of Weikert's book(s), so, since I took this off topic, I am happy to have your comments and the link you posted.
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