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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:51 am

scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
LOL, nice...
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:54 am

That's....not exactly the word I'd be using to describe it. :lol:
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Post by montgomery » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:06 am

scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
The truth is that it never was a bad link. The Onion doesn't produce it's own bad links as far as I know.

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Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:08 am

Shall I post it again? I know it was bad, because I tested it. My own bad copy pasta job has nothing to do with The Onion's performance.
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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:08 am

scrmbldggs wrote:That's....not exactly the word I'd be using to describe it. :lol:

You know me and my rather warped sensibilities, scrm. It’s why I’m going to hell.

:D
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:10 am

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scrmbldggs wrote:That's....not exactly the word I'd be using to describe it. :lol:

You know me and my rather warped sensibilities, scrm. It’s why I’m going to hell.

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scrmbldggs wrote:Shall I post it again? I know it was bad, because I tested it. My own bad copy pasta job has nothing to do with The Onion's performance.
So what you like. It worked the same for me before and after you said you fixed it.

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Post by Balmoral95 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:20 am

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scrmbldggs wrote:Shall I post it again? I know it was bad, because I tested it. My own bad copy pasta job has nothing to do with The Onion's performance.
So what you like. It worked the same for me before and after you said you fixed it.
When you're not here do you find yourself arguing with walls?

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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:34 am

:hmm: He's an obnoxious bugger, isn't he. :lol:




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scrmbldggs wrote:Shall I post it again? I know it was bad, because I tested it. My own bad copy pasta job has nothing to do with The Onion's performance.
So what you like. It worked the same for me before and after you said you fixed it.
I said I fixed it long after I actually fixed it (several minutes later). Balmoral's post must have been submitted really close in time to my re-submitting the corrected version, otherwise one'd see the "Last edited by" notice in my post.
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Post by Balmoral95 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:40 am

scrmbldggs wrote::hmm: He's an obnoxious bugger, isn't he. :lol:




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scrmbldggs wrote:Shall I post it again? I know it was bad, because I tested it. My own bad copy pasta job has nothing to do with The Onion's performance.
So what you like. It worked the same for me before and after you said you fixed it.
I said I fixed it long after I actually fixed it (several minutes later). Balmoral's post must have been submitted really close in time to my re-submitting the corrected version, otherwise one'd see the "Last edited by" notice.
Which is exactly what happened. :mrgreen:

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Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:41 am

Dang, we didn't get to sync it as well this time^. :lol:
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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:33 am

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scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
The truth is that it never was a bad link. The Onion doesn't produce it's own bad links as far as I know.
Might be the most futile and pointless troll post this one has yet made . . . but he gives himself stiff competition in the "I Can Discredit Myself" department in post after post . . .
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
The truth is that it never was a bad link. The Onion doesn't produce it's own bad links as far as I know.
Might be the most futile and pointless troll post this one has yet made . . . but he gives himself stiff competition in the "I Can Discredit Myself" department in post after post . . .
It's not important. The only point is that balmoral is stupid and the rest of you have to look after him. I'm keeping a close eye on him to see what he babbles out on more important matters.

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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:22 pm

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Denying-History wrote:
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Denying-History wrote:Can you point to one thing they corrected?
Yes. This is specifically an answer to your question and I'm not suggesting that the revised number is correct. I don't know if it's correct or not. That's why I'm here taking part as a skeptic and not a H-D'er.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992 ... -memorials
You really think they corrected that? That was the work of Piper not IHR. Take the time to read Van Pelts report to the Irving trial. I can provide a link if needed.
I didn't quote it as saying 'they' meant the IHR. It's an answer to your question. Provide a link to whatever you like but my answer stands.

My link is credible and it's not being denied by anyone. I can't accept that any links being provided by any of you will be credible. I base that judgment on your spamming and lack of proper manners. That's the downside for all of you for being ignorant spammers. The best thing for you all to do now is to begin to correct that problem between us.

Whether or not you do, I couldn't care less.
Except that Hilberg and Reitlinger both came up with lower numbers in the 50’s and 60’s. This was before any denier came up with anything regarding Auschwitz.
Thoughts, Montgomery?
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:42 pm

Well, I guess I didn’t need to watch that video after all.
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Post by Balmoral95 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:52 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:Well, I guess I didn’t need to watch that video after all.
That vid seems to have garnered a new lease on life... it was posted at Rodoh yesterday...coincidentally :lol:

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montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
The truth is that it never was a bad link. The Onion doesn't produce it's own bad links as far as I know.
Might be the most futile and pointless troll post this one has yet made . . . but he gives himself stiff competition in the "I Can Discredit Myself" department in post after post . . .
It's not important...
You're right about that, so, what's with all the fuss? Why do we need to look after you like that?
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:04 pm

I saw that...quite a coincidence. An oldy, moldy IHR video posted here and there.

“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Post by montgomery » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:37 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Denying-History wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Denying-History wrote:Can you point to one thing they corrected?
Yes. This is specifically an answer to your question and I'm not suggesting that the revised number is correct. I don't know if it's correct or not. That's why I'm here taking part as a skeptic and not a H-D'er.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992 ... -memorials
You really think they corrected that? That was the work of Piper not IHR. Take the time to read Van Pelts report to the Irving trial. I can provide a link if needed.
I didn't quote it as saying 'they' meant the IHR. It's an answer to your question. Provide a link to whatever you like but my answer stands.

My link is credible and it's not being denied by anyone. I can't accept that any links being provided by any of you will be credible. I base that judgment on your spamming and lack of proper manners. That's the downside for all of you for being ignorant spammers. The best thing for you all to do now is to begin to correct that problem between us.

Whether or not you do, I couldn't care less.
Except that Hilberg and Reitlinger both came up with lower numbers in the 50’s and 60’s. This was before any denier came up with anything regarding Auschwitz.
Thoughts, Montgomery?
My thoughts are Jeff: All of you here on this section of the forum are totally wrapped up in promoting holocaust legend for some reason? That reason or imagined reason (s) needs to be explored more carefully. So regardless of what your reason is (you can tell me later), you are probably unaware of the purpose you have probably been conned into promoting. And that is, Americans are avid supporters of the holocaust because it serves to justify the U.S. aggression throughout the M.E. And fwiw, it also justifies U.S. aggression against Russia and China, but you will need a further explanation on that part of it.

My answer on the Israel/Palestinian thread for bobbo explains it more fully. Go there and rebut that if you like.

All of you may think you're acting as humanitarians with a higher purpose. That could be true in one or two cases but I couldn't name one that I suspect as having that motive. Most of you, such as balmoral as the worst example, are really arguing for the sake of this being a good place to be belligerent and nasty. Stat.mech., I won't even mention what I suspect his motive is but I suspect the worst. In any case, the only thing you're accomplishing is support of U.S. aggression throughout the world. (as I said, you can explain your motive if you care to)

I think I can connect all the emotional holocaust support to nothing more than support of US aggression everywhere in the world that it's happening. It's the fabricated righteousness that America needs in order to escape the label of the world's most evil aggressor. Nearly 40 U.S. wars of aggression since WW2 alone.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:18 pm

montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
The truth is that it never was a bad link. The Onion doesn't produce it's own bad links as far as I know.
Might be the most futile and pointless troll post this one has yet made . . . but he gives himself stiff competition in the "I Can Discredit Myself" department in post after post . . .
It's not important. The only point is that balmoral is stupid and the rest of you have to look after him. I'm keeping a close eye on him to see what he babbles out on more important matters.
You seem a tad obsessed with Balmoral.
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My thoughts are Jeff: All of you here on this section of the forum are totally wrapped up in promoting holocaust legend for some reason?
I don’t promote legends. If I promoted legends then I would stoutly defend the mass production of Jew soap, the dastardly German predilection to shrink Jewish heads, the diabolical skin lampshades and other absurdities.

I don’t pretend to know everything but I strive for knowledge and understanding. I know more than I did when I started and that is progress.

That reason or imagined reason (s) needs to be explored more carefully. So regardless of what your reason is (you can tell me later),
I gave you a link as to why. I also find racist/antisemitic BS revolting and Holocaust denial is filled with that. An additional reason is my belief that Holocaust denial (or any kind of denial of any number of genocides) essentially pisses all over the memories of the dead and mocks the grief of the survivors and their descendants.

Are my reasons clear to you?
you are probably unaware of the purpose you have probably been conned into promoting.
No one conned me into anything.
And that is, Americans are avid supporters of the holocaust because it serves to justify the U.S. aggression throughout the M.E. And fwiw, it also justifies U.S. aggression against Russia and China, but you will need a further explanation on that part of it.
LOL, I’m a liberal and a pacifist. I take war seriously because I’ve read enough military history to understand how ugly it is.
As for Russia, I feel sorry for the Russians because for the second time in one hundred years they lost their freedoms to despots. I consider Putin hostile and find it disgusting that the thing currently squatting in the White House chooses to believe that wretch over his own intelligence agencies. Both China and Russia have engaged in cyberwarfare against this country. If I had my way I’d hack them both until they squealed and when they whined about it do it again.
My answer on the Israel/Palestinian thread for bobbo explains it more fully. Go there and rebut that if you like.
OK, since you refuse to read what I write I will make my position crystal clear:

1) I support a two-state solution.
2) I am against further Israeli settlements in disputed territories.
3) I do not support current Israeli policies of displacement.
4) I think Netanyahu is a colossal asshat. Worse I think the hardliners have him by the balls and I truly fear the (ironic) rise of a fascist Israeli state.

Is all of that clear to you? Or will you not read that either?
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Post by Balmoral95 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:27 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
montgomery wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:monty is right, I fixed it. One number went missing...
The truth is that it never was a bad link. The Onion doesn't produce it's own bad links as far as I know.
Might be the most futile and pointless troll post this one has yet made . . . but he gives himself stiff competition in the "I Can Discredit Myself" department in post after post . . .
It's not important. The only point is that balmoral is stupid and the rest of you have to look after him. I'm keeping a close eye on him to see what he babbles out on more important matters.
You seem a tad obsessed with Balmoral.
He's just in denial about his true feelings for me. :mrgreen:

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:rotfl:



He sure goes through great lengths explaining just how awful you are. Sign of a deeply held admiration. :-P
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montgomery wrote:
My thoughts are Jeff: All of you here on this section of the forum are totally wrapped up in promoting holocaust legend for some reason?
Well, at least you finally came out as a denier. Took way too long imo.

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montgomery wrote:
My thoughts are Jeff: All of you here on this section of the forum are totally wrapped up in promoting holocaust legend for some reason?
Well, at least you finally came out as a denier. Took way too long imo.
He’s a “Skeptic.”

Seems he is against...something....but seems hesitant to tell us what. Much talk about Holocaust legends and random musings from some Polish guy.

He likes old IHR stuff.

Other than that I’m still waiting. He will admit to knowing nothing about the Holocaust but doesn’t seem to want to learn anything about it.
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Post by scrmbldggs » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:11 pm

Seems monty is very skeptical about evidence and a firm believer in his own power of observation, analysis and deduction.
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Reaktori wrote:
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My thoughts are Jeff: All of you here on this section of the forum are totally wrapped up in promoting holocaust legend for some reason?
Well, at least you finally came out as a denier. Took way too long imo.
nice catch!
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:25 pm

>> Other than that I’m still waiting

For the results of his investigations into this forum?
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:>> Other than that I’m still waiting

For the results of his investigations into this forum?
So let's get to it then! Where do your loyalties lie. Is America first with you or is America second? Oh, and if America isn't first then what country are you most loyal to?

I'm done with balmoral and pretty much done with D-H too. The others are a little more descreet than you three so there's still some doubt about them.

Maybe they will be so proud about their answers that they will tell me?

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:52 am

I don’t know about anyone else but my loyalties lie with Unicornville.
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:I don’t know about anyone else but my loyalties lie with Unicornville.
You can't do it can you! Anyway, thanks for the answer.

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montgomery wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:I don’t know about anyone else but my loyalties lie with Unicornville.
You can't do it can you! Anyway, thanks for the answer.

Can’t do what?
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:I don’t know about anyone else but my loyalties lie with Unicornville.
You can't do it can you! Anyway, thanks for the answer.
Were you expelled from school or something? No thoughts of going back? Sure, four years seems like a long time to get your high school diploma, but consider this: a possible life in a dead-end job is so much worse.
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montgomery wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:>> Other than that I’m still waiting

For the results of his investigations into this forum?
So let's get to it then! Where do your loyalties lie. Is America first with you or is America second?
This question has what to do with the Holocaust?
montgomery wrote:Oh, and if America isn't first then what country are you most loyal to?
America first, eh? I think I've heard that one before ... but, no, sorry, I am so over that {!#%@}. If I have to pick a country, I am most loyal of all to Nambia. I would like to be able to say Israel, but Mossad is late with my damn checks again, so until they get their act together, Nambia.
montgomery wrote:I'm done with balmoral and pretty much done with D-H too. The others are a little more descreet than you three so there's still some doubt about them.

Maybe they will be so proud about their answers that they will tell me?
Stop dodging, boy-genius ... let's hear about your ... investigations!

If you would actually read the posts people make here, you would find out that this board is not reserved for Americans. Hell, we even have a Canadian who posts here!
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Re: Stuff We Can Talk About: Lies and Exaggerations

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:05 am

boy-genius claimed:
montgomery wrote:... I suggest that the IHR were at least at the front of the parade on exposing all the lies and exaggerations that have been abandoned....
he was asked:
Denying-History wrote:Can you point to one thing they corrected?
apparently blowhard cannot point to a single thing IHR corrected; well played, boy-genius
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:boy-genius claimed:
montgomery wrote:... I suggest that the IHR were at least at the front of the parade on exposing all the lies and exaggerations that have been abandoned....
he was asked:
Denying-History wrote:Can you point to one thing they corrected?
apparently blowhard cannot point to a single thing IHR corrected; well played, boy-genius
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:21 am

I suppose it is mildly amusing to watch him blunder about and parade his particular variety of narcissism here. However, I am old enough to remember the time when this subforum had a different purpose - discussion of the Holocaust and related matters.
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Post by Balmoral95 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:32 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:I suppose it is mildly amusing to watch him blunder about and parade his particular variety of narcissism here. However, I am old enough to remember the time when this subforum had a different purpose - discussion of the Holocaust and related matters.
Right, but that's when he had visitors (including chimps) who knew something about the subject.

This one couldn't make a patch on a proper chimp's arse.

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And then there is balmoral.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:06 pm

For sustained dodging you have a long ways to go to catch up to the real champs
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