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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by BRoI » Wed May 02, 2018 9:37 pm

The letter was written by Vilma Grunwald only moments before she and her eldest son were forced into a gas chamber at Auschwitz on July 11, 1944.

Originally Vilma was placed into a Czech family camp at Auschwitz with her husband Kurt and her two sons John and Misa. However, shortly after arriving the family was put through the selection process together in front of Dr. Josef Mengele.

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-mot ... ?r=UK&IR=T
"shortly after arriving" - She was sent to Auschwitz eight month prior to the date of this letter.
Transport Dr, no. 731 (15. 12. 1943, Terezín -> Auschwitz)

https://www.holocaust.cz/en/database-of ... -nwaldova/
https://www.geni.com/people/Vilma-Gr%C3 ... 2352102326
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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by BRoI » Wed May 02, 2018 9:41 pm

In the first days of July, camp physician Josef Mengele carried out a “selection” that sent 3,800 young, healthy men and women to other camps. The remaining 7,000 Jews, including women and children, were exterminated in the gas chambers on the nights of July 10-11 and 11-12. Thus was the Familienlager liquidated.

http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/news/the ... z,372.html
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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed May 02, 2018 10:55 pm

Thank you for the correction.
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:22 pm

Bumping this for my Twitter friends....

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“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:32 pm

I’m bumping this to add this from HC:

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... ?m=1#_ftn2

I want to go through it later but I need to get some work done.
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:17 pm

“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:20 pm

Bump to make this thread easier to track down...
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:00 am



Can’t claim torture with this one...
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:20 am

Thanks, that's from the Einsatzgruppen: The Death Brigades documentary mentioned in the "Confessions of Nazi crimes by common people?" thread, I did not know it was online, very nice find!
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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:23 am

Thanks, I have it on for white noise while I’m doing stuff. That came on so I wanted to hunt it down.
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:24 am

It’s sad I have something like that on as white noise... :D
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:51 am

Bump
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:24 pm

Bump
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:10 pm

“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:26 am

Bump
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:58 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:00 am


Can’t claim torture with this one...
“I noticed this morning that a group of our Landsberg friends have been given their freedom this morning. These include...Schubert, Jost and Nosske. Schubert confessed to...supervising the execution of about 800 Jews...(referring to the order to clean up Simferopol)...Schubert managed to kill all the Jews (by Christmas 1941). Nosske was the one the other defendants called the biggest bloodhound....
Noel, Noel, what the hell.”
Benjamin Ferencz in a letter to Telford Taylor, December 1951