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Re: Trump will win!

Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:37 pm

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I feel safer already. The president (bless him) has at last addressed a concern that appears nowhere on the list of 4m "top concerns I have."

As you should. The danger looming is so great that he's retreating to the walls, traps and bunkers of his southern fortress. That dump in DC just isn't safe enough for the ongoing onslaught* of blisters and diaper rash.



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Re: Trump will win!

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:51 pm

Seems his little speech today was making a strong case of the validity of use and necessity of the 25th. :|
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:54 pm

The nicest parts of Individual-1's announcement are 1) his party's leadership (although not without dissent) is lining up to support what is IMO clearly a move from an authoritarian playbook and 2) the courts will likely find in favor of Individual-1's power (I almost wrote pussy) grab.

The latter point is true even in the light of Trump's saying today of his national emergency, “I didn't need to do this, but I'd rather do it much faster. And I don't have to do it for the election; I've already done a lot of wall for the election 2020. And the only reason we're up here talking about this is because of the election, because they want to try and win an election which it looks like they're not going to be able to do. And this is one of the ways they think they can possibly win is by obstruction and a lot of other nonsense. And I think that I just want to get it done faster, that's all.”

The emergency has to do with the 2020 election?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:04 pm

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Remember just a couple of weeks ago when Trump’s approval rating tanked because of the shutdown?



https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politi ... 9999999999
Meh.

That article is typical Cillizza fluff. Essentially he is arguing that the Democrats will lose if (a) they take Democratic stances and/or (b) they run relatively open processes and allow healthy debate. Contrary to Cillizza, no matter what the Democrats do the GOP will demonize them and a shitload of voters will fall for it.
I actually agree with much of the article. I think abortion plays well to the heartland, same with yammering about “Socialism” and “the damn Democrats want to take your car away.”
OTOH "Poll: Majority of Virginians say third-trimester abortion should be legal if woman’s health is at risk"
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:07 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
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Seems his little speech today was making a strong case of the validity of use and necessity of the 25th. :|
Josh Marshall might well agree: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump- ... highlights
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:15 pm

New national emergency: Rudy Ghouliani hasn't been seen or heard from in days! Where's Rudy!?!? Looking for a declaration of a national emergency and moving more funds from the DOD to find Rudy . . .

https://twitter.com/hashtag/FakeTrumpEmergency?src=tren

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:33 pm

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The latter point is true even in the light of Trump's saying today of his national emergency, “I didn't need to do this, but I'd rather do it much faster.
Um, if it’s not an emergency and hasn’t been the length of his presidency, then why declare a state of emergency?

BTW, thanks, Donald, for giving the courts something to chew on....FFS, is he incapable of realizing when he shoots himself in the foot???
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:46 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:33 pm
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:54 pm
The latter point is true even in the light of Trump's saying today of his national emergency, “I didn't need to do this, but I'd rather do it much faster.
Um, if it’s not an emergency and hasn’t been the length of his presidency, then why declare a state of emergency?
He explained this with these words, "It would have been great to have done it earlier, but I was a little new to the job, a little new to the profession, and we had a little disappointment for the first year and a half."
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BTW, thanks, Donald, for giving the courts something to chew on....FFS, is he incapable of realizing when he shoots himself in the foot???
Given the Alice in Wonderland world that is the new & improved, authoritarian wannabe United States, led by a warlord type using a far right movement calling itself, sometimes, the Republican party and, other times, QAnon . . . given this upside down reality, apparently Individual-1 can say and do as he pleases. Pretty much.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:58 pm

I got a note from MoveOn.org just after Individual-1's ukase, er, speech, saying that they and other organizations are planning a "massive wave of protests across the country" for Monday:
Donald Trump [they refer to Individual-1 as "Donald Trump"] just announced that he is declaring a national emergency to bypass Congress and divert billions of dollars to his racist, wasteful border wall. We cannot let Trump get away with this undemocratic power grab.

That's why MoveOn is launching rapid-response actions all across the country this coming Monday, February 18. Together, we'll fight back, protesting Trump's emergency declaration, demanding that Congress overturn it, showing solidarity with immigrant communities, and making it clear that this kind of behavior is unacceptable for any American president.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:07 pm

Narrowing her evil eyes to look as much like a snake as possible, and speaking in the evangelical Christian dialect of English, where one says "drug" for "dragged," Sarah Hucklechuckle Sanders further explained, to Trump State TV, Trump's curious admission that he needn't take emergency action:
I think the biggest thing is he shouldn’t have to do this. Congress should have stepped up and done their job and done everything necessary to fully and safely secure the border. The President could have waited and he could have drug* this out.
* Huckchuckle thunk that making drag irregular might make her sound halfway intelligent. It didn't.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:11 pm

You guys simply don't understand. Not one military action and/or facility is as important as a yuuge comb on that border.
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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:07 pm
Narrowing her evil eyes to look as much like a snake as possible, and speaking in the evangelical Christian dialect of English, where one says "drug" for "dragged," Sarah Hucklechuckle Sanders further explained, to Trump State TV, Trump's curious admission that he needn't take emergency action:
I think the biggest thing is he shouldn’t have to do this. Congress should have stepped up and done their job and done everything necessary to fully and safely secure the border. The President could have waited and he could have drug* this out.
* Huckchuckle thunk that making drag irregular might make her sound halfway intelligent. It didn't.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:01 pm

Heartfield was a red? God help us! (Heartfield actually signed right up, joining the KPD the year it was formed IIRC.) I think that another reason the Nazis didn't like Heartfield had to do with AIZ and things like this, these images from after the seizure of power:

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Re: Trump will win!

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Heartfield was a red? God help us! (Heartfield actually signed right up, joining the KPD the year it was formed IIRC.) I think that another reason the Nazis didn't like Heartfield had to do with AIZ and things like this, these images from after the seizure of power:
As if the communism wasn't enough, I'm sure the anti-naziism didn't help.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:12 pm

Well, I was just guessing . . .
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:05 pm

It pays to re-read things, carefully: Stop Talking About the 25th Amendment (section 4) (if I ever knew this, I'd long forgotten it)
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:16 pm

really interesting comment on where we are legally with Trump & his Wall (short version: up {!#%@}'s creek): "Nancy Pelosi Put Her Faith in the Courts to Stop Trump’s Emergency Wall: Big mistake."
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Re: Trump will win!

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Question for Groening by a reporter:
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“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:49 pm

I kept thinking about that song, glad Colbert picked up on it. :-P


But yeah, The Donald is angling hard for a pardon by Pooty....
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... but, at least, no one is talking about the Yuge National Debt. Or his legal problems...
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Re: Trump will win!

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... but, at least, no one is talking about the Yuge National Debt. Or his legal problems...
Oh, he talked about the debt today: "Growth, growth, growth", but he has to get a few other things done first... :lol:

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Re: Trump will win!

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Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

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Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:00 am

Nazi Barbie weighs in:
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:50 am

steve kornacki showing Trump approval rating amongst Republicans is the highest of any President at this point of time in the cycle. Won't be on YouTube for awhile..............89%.

We all know what a bubble the Trump voting base lives in............but what is outside one bubble but another bubble? The universe is like that.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:34 pm

More on Trump's 2020 campaign concept: “The Democrats have never been more outside of the mainstream. They’re becoming the party of socialism, late-term abortion, open borders and crime.” Echoing Nixon's 1972 playbook: abortion, amnesty, acid - and law & order. The campaign promises to be as ugly and disenchanting as the 2016 debacle. Whipping up a red scare, like so: “They’re coming for your money and they’re coming for your freedom. Radical resistance. It’s the radical left.”

Even some Democrats are getting into the action. NY rep Carolyn Maloney, for example, told CNN that Democratic progressives are to be "blamed" for Amazon's decision to pull out of NYC: “It used to be that we would protest wars, now we're protesting jobs. People are complaining about jobs coming.” Really? Is that what people complain about? I don't think so: "How Amazon blew its chance in New York". "Amazon deserves more than rejection from New York. It should be punished".

But certainly "pragmatic" Dems should operate fact-free, with simplistic and misleading slogans - and do all they can to help the Trump campaign make its case, fear-monger, caricature and mock, and distort and lie.

The effort to protect, and expand, democracy in the US will not be an easy one.
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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:40 pm

And the markets took off like a rocket yesterday, now that the immediate threat of a shutdown is past.

But what {!#%@} MORONS passed a law allowing the President to declare himself dictator? They might as well have given a loaded gun to a psychopath. (Well, actually, they DID exactly that.) How could anybody be so careless of civil liberties? Emergency declarations ought to come from Congress. The most the President should be allowed is a temporary declaration that needs to be confirmed by two-thirds of both houses of Congress within one week. That would work; it certainly would have worked after 9/11.

But, following Trump's organizational style, I'll return to the great market news. First Netflix paid not one penny of the supposed 21% corporate tax rate and in fact got a $22M tax credit. Now Amazon TRUMPs that by paying not one penny on $11B of profit (twice the amount it paid not one penny on in 2017) and has a $140M tax credit. So, we poor peasants owe these people about 50 cents from each of us for the great good they have done? Doesn't compute for me.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:47 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
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But what {!#%@} MORONS passed a law allowing the President to declare himself dictator?
When we congratulate ourselves on the robustness of the American political system and its durability, as we Americans like doing - "They system works!" - we might stop at least once or twice to consider that Trump's power-grab will be within the legal framework as it has evolved.
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But, following Trump's organizational style, I'll return to the great market news. First Netflix paid not one penny of the supposed 21% corporate tax rate and in fact got a $22M tax credit. Now Amazon TRUMPs that by paying not one penny on $11B of profit (twice the amount it paid not one penny on in 2017) and has a $140M tax credit. So, we poor peasants owe these people about 50 cents from each of us for the great good they have done? Doesn't compute for me.
I do think that those effects were the point of the tax legislation and other actions of the Congress and this administration.
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Seriously, what makes him think someone like REM would sanction the use of their songs???
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:23 pm

He doesn't give a {!#%@}. That is the great thing about the God Emperor. He is larger than life and yet he sacrifices himself for his People. He is their will incarnate. And silly little bands from Athens GA need to step aside while we MAGA!
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Seriously, what makes him think someone like REM would sanction the use of their songs???
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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
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He doesn't give a {!#%@}. That is the great thing about the God Emperor. He is larger than life and yet he sacrifices himself for his People. He is their will incarnate. And silly little bands from Athens GA need to step aside while we MAGA!
Absolutely!!!! He is our benign father and sacrifices himself daily for his people.

I mean, look, he is the ultimate father figure. I have a picture:

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Oops, {!#%@}, wrong picture...... :)
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:26 pm

LOL inspired by Rick Wilson column, I spent an hour break from project work looking at Donald Trump fan art. Of course it is dreadfully executed, of course it is authoritarian, of course it is kitschy, of course it is anti-Semitic . . . of course of course of course . . . Trump's supporters are a real problem, their attachment is a form of hero worship, obsessive, excessive, unrealistic, idealized, and potentially lethal. Trump as warlord, Napoleon, super hero, divine-savior, force of nature, centerfold, gangsta, anime babe . . . rendered with all the artistic sophistication and depth that go into painted scenes of dogs playing poker . . .
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Wow, tracked down some of that fan art. Worse than Krafft’s “Disasterware.”
Question for Groening by a reporter:
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LOL, that’s awkward.

Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


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Post by Balmoral95 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:59 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:26 pm
LOL inspired by Rick Wilson column, I spent an hour break from project work looking at Donald Trump fan art. Of course it is dreadfully executed, of course it is authoritarian, of course it is kitschy, of course it is anti-Semitic . . . of course of course of course . . . Trump's supporters are a real problem, their attachment is a form of hero worship, obsessive, excessive, unrealistic, idealized, and potentially lethal. Trump as warlord, Napoleon, super hero, divine-savior, force of nature, centerfold, gangsta, anime babe . . . rendered with all the artistic sophistication and depth that go into painted scenes of dogs playing poker . . .
What, no Pootie-esque topless shots on velvet? :mrgreen:

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:37 am

Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:46 am

Balmoral95 wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:59 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:26 pm
LOL inspired by Rick Wilson column, I spent an hour break from project work looking at Donald Trump fan art. Of course it is dreadfully executed, of course it is authoritarian, of course it is kitschy, of course it is anti-Semitic . . . of course of course of course . . . Trump's supporters are a real problem, their attachment is a form of hero worship, obsessive, excessive, unrealistic, idealized, and potentially lethal. Trump as warlord, Napoleon, super hero, divine-savior, force of nature, centerfold, gangsta, anime babe . . . rendered with all the artistic sophistication and depth that go into painted scenes of dogs playing poker . . .
What, no Pootie-esque topless shots on velvet? :mrgreen:
no but here are some of the weirder ones:

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And I'm supposed to be worried about socialism!?!?!
. . . all right we are two nations . . .

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Balmoral95 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:54 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:49 pm
LOL, that’s awkward.

There are funeral directors in the midwest with more dynamic range.... and 75% 0f them would bury him based on looks alone... :lol: :lol: :lol: