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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:50 pm

So, Trump news this morning. Rolling Stone reports that he will sign off with $1.375B for fencing. I'm not sure the offers were equivalent, but wasn't he offered $1.6B for fencing back in December, and he decided to hang tough and shut down the government instead? That's "The Art of the Deal."

And now there's the scandal of a whole village of people in Costa Rica who presented pay stubs from Trump's company showing that they worked illegally at Mar-a-Lago. The Democrats are now circulating a poster saying, "Trump's properties have walls,...,big, beautiful walls. And yet illegal immigrants still get in." Very good propaganda.

And apparently he claimed an audience of 35,000 people in El Paso, in an auditorium with 6500 seats. Well, I'm sure Hickabee will explain that the other 28,500 people were standing around outside because they couldn't get in.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:58 pm

Pompeo's Warsaw conference on the Middle East, the theme of which is more or less Hey ho, Iran Has Gotta Go:
The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, had earlier withdrawn a claim on his Twitter account, said to be the product of a mistranslation, that he was in Warsaw to discuss “war with Iran”
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:10 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:50 pm
So, Trump news this morning. Rolling Stone reports that he will sign off with $1.375B for fencing. I'm not sure the offers were equivalent, but wasn't he offered $1.6B for fencing back in December, and he decided to hang tough and shut down the government instead? That's "The Art of the Deal."
Early last year he was offered $25bn in exchange for DACA protections. Before the shutdown he was indeed offered $1.6bn. TPM is calling this latest wrinkle "The Art of the Kneel."

Trumpers are trying to declare victory by presenting alternative facts, like Brad Parscale's changing Trump's slogan from "Build the Wall" to "Finish the Wall." And the insistent argument from Trump's camp and supporters that Individual-1 can just use money appropriated for other purposes to finish the imaginary wall (which begs the question why then Trump shutdown part of the federal government over the holidays - and pretty much subverts the legislative process and Constitution . . . )

Jennifer Rubin: How Trump Lost the Border-Wall Fight
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And apparently he claimed an audience of 35,000 people in El Paso, in an auditorium with 6500 seats. Well, I'm sure Hickabee will explain that the other 28,500 people were standing around outside because they couldn't get in.
Individual-1 claimed that the Fire Department broke regulations and allowed 3,500 extra people into the venue and that 25,000 people had gathered outside to support him. Authorities, however, estimated the crowds at his rally, and at the opposition protest at which Beto O'Rourke (whose speaking style is breathlessly annoying) spoke, to number maybe 10,000 each, counting in the case of Trump's mini-Nuremberg people inside and outside.

Trump said that only 200-300 people attended Beto's counter-rally - Bloomberg said that there were between 10,000 and 15,000. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... people-hi/

It was at Trump's rally that an apparently drunk - not high on weed - MAGA dude assaulted a BBC cameraman.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:20 pm

Betting markets have the Democratic nominating race as follows in the very early going:

Harris 22%
Sanders 16%
Biden 16%
O'Rourke 14%

Trump's camp seems worried about Warren and Harris and, among the possible candidates, Biden and Brown, fearing that both would put the Midwest into play for the Democrats.
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Post by scrmbldggs » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:36 pm

I sure hope that they won't forget to mention just how much the Repugnants and this administration are doing to allow another foreign assist - first scrapping money appropriated for election protection, and now a very targeted gutting of the DHS.
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Re: Trump will win!

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Post by scrmbldggs » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:01 pm

Uh-oh, with that, Rosenstein will be Barred from resigning and instead will be fired, eh.


(Which in this administration is a badge of honor for doing your sworn duty...)
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:57 pm

when you're kind of curious in a half-ass way about what's in the new bipartisan funding bill and mean to type "funding bill" into Google's search bar but type the phrase into Twitter instead:

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by ElectricMonk » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:02 pm

W the actual F....

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:17 pm

ElectricMonk wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:02 pm
W the actual F....
I’ve been saying that since November of 2016.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
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Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:37 pm

McConnell has explained: Individual-1 will sign the compromise legislation and simultaneously declare a national emergency so he can build his {!#%@} wall by taking money from useful, er, other programs.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:51 pm

All about the Benjamin’s, baby:

Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:56 pm

Because I am tragically un-hip I wanted to know the exact slang involved:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urband ... s&amp=true

It’s also a song:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_ ... _Benjamins

And a movie:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_About_the_Benjamins

So....it’s all about the money. I think we can apply that to really any group that lobbies any politician.
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Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by scrmbldggs » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:59 pm

Where's the emergency? In the news, of course. :?


Two campaign chairmen walk into a club? Or at FAUX and other Right Wingnuts?
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Re: Trump will win!

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The Art of the Squeal: It's all Paul Ryan's fault! :lol:
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:47 pm

The Art of the Meal:
Trump, who has a common form of heart disease, embarked on a mission last year to lose some weight.

Now, the President weighs 243 pounds, an increase of 4 pounds, according to the physical examination results. That weight now puts Trump's body mass index, or BMI, at 30.4, which makes him clinically obese.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/health/t ... index.html
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More bad parenting by McTurtle. :-P
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Re: Trump will win!

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Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:37 pm
McConnell has explained: Individual-1 will sign the compromise legislation and simultaneously declare a national emergency ...
...a declaration McConnell will prepare (oops) support. Because he wants it to be fought and defeated because he anticipates and is afraid of POTUS 46 (D)?
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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:47 pm
The Art of the Meal:
Trump, who has a common form of heart disease, embarked on a mission last year to lose some weight.

Now, the President weighs 243 pounds, an increase of 4 pounds, according to the physical examination results. That weight now puts Trump's body mass index, or BMI, at 30.4, which makes him clinically obese.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/health/t ... index.html
And he doesn't drink.... so there's no solvent flowing thru to help breakdown all that sludge..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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LOL
Question for Groening by a reporter:
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Re: Trump will win!

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Re: Trump will win!

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The TV Network of the Resistance:



They didn't even bother to dig up a photo of White Man Seth Moulton but simply used Sherrod Brown twice. Generic White Man Moulton doesn't need a unique photo - and he's not going anywhere anyway. Somehow Tim Ryan managed to get his own photo, though. The "A" team (those running) group portrait looks a lot better . . .
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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:14 am
The TV Network of the Resistance:



They didn't even bother to dig up a photo of White Man Seth Moulton but simply used Sherrod Brown twice. Generic White Man Moulton doesn't need a unique photo - and he's not going anywhere anyway. Somehow Tim Ryan managed to get his own photo, though. The "A" team (those running) group portrait looks a lot better . . .
Hopeless...

And all the while the Harpy is filing her claws, strengthening her nest, and waiting to swoop into the limelight....

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Re: Trump will win!

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Matt Schlapp, husband of WH communications advisor Mercedes Schlapp, on Twitter today: “Tomorrow will be the first day that President Trump will have a fully operational confirmed Attorney General. Let that sink in. Mueller will be gone soon.”
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeff_36 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:09 am

Balmoral95 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:29 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:14 am
The TV Network of the Resistance:



They didn't even bother to dig up a photo of White Man Seth Moulton but simply used Sherrod Brown twice. Generic White Man Moulton doesn't need a unique photo - and he's not going anywhere anyway. Somehow Tim Ryan managed to get his own photo, though. The "A" team (those running) group portrait looks a lot better . . .
Hopeless...

And all the while the Harpy is filing her claws, strengthening her nest, and waiting to swoop into the limelight....
Relax. She's not coming back. She'd have to be utterly delusuonal.

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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:57 pm
when you're kind of curious in a half-ass way about what's in the new bipartisan funding bill and mean to type "funding bill" into Google's search bar but type the phrase into Twitter instead:

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:03 am
Matt Schlapp, husband of WH communications advisor Mercedes Schlapp, on Twitter today: “Tomorrow will be the first day that President Trump will have a fully operational confirmed Attorney General. Let that sink in. Mueller will be gone soon.”
Why? Will he bring his 'official Red Ryder, carbine action, 200-shot, range model air rifle, with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time'? :-P
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Re: Trump will win!

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Jeff_36 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:09 am
Balmoral95 wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:29 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:14 am
The TV Network of the Resistance:



They didn't even bother to dig up a photo of White Man Seth Moulton but simply used Sherrod Brown twice. Generic White Man Moulton doesn't need a unique photo - and he's not going anywhere anyway. Somehow Tim Ryan managed to get his own photo, though. The "A" team (those running) group portrait looks a lot better . . .
Hopeless...

And all the while the Harpy is filing her claws, strengthening her nest, and waiting to swoop into the limelight....
Relax. She's not coming back. She'd have to be utterly delusuonal.
Why yes, yes she would...

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Re: Trump will win!

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:03 am
Matt Schlapp, husband of WH communications advisor Mercedes Schlapp, on Twitter today: “Tomorrow will be the first day that President Trump will have a fully operational confirmed Attorney General. Let that sink in. Mueller will be gone soon.”
So "fully operational" now means "non-recused".....

I learned other stuff today from the WH... Did you know that measles cure cancer? I didn't either... Sure glad I didn't waste any money going to med school... :lol:

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"Fully Operational" //// In context, I'd take that to mean he has sworn a loyalty oath to Trump and has agreed to violate the law?
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FFS, be careful if you speak Spanish in a Trumpling state:
Question for Groening by a reporter:
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“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:51 am

Can't do that. Trump has already tweeted that any use of the 25th Amendment would be unconstitutional.

On the other hand, let us not "misunderestimate" the extent to which Trump has corrupted the judiciary. Just about every judge except five on the Supreme Court held that his immigration and travel bans were unconstitutional. Those five were all he needed, and now he's got six, or soon will have. Suing him over the emergency declaration may not be as easy as the Republicans had it when they sued Obama over ACA in 2014.

But a lot of sensible Republicans are really scared about this emergency declaration. Not getting funding is not the same as an emergency, and they might lose, even with their tame judiciary. But it might be worse if they succeed, since the next President might be a Democrat who would declare an emergency due to mass shootings all over the country.

Well, he hasn't signed the damn thing yet. The word is, McConnell announced that he would sign and declare the emergency because McConnell was in a panic about being once again out on a limb that Trump sawed off. He thinks he has Trump boxed in now and has finally gotten his own paw out of the trap. But we'll see. Trump knows damn well that his base wouldn't care in the slightest if he suddenly shut the government down again.
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scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:21 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:37 pm
McConnell has explained: Individual-1 will sign the compromise legislation and simultaneously declare a national emergency ...
...a declaration McConnell will prepare (oops) support. Because he wants it to be fought and defeated because he anticipates and is afraid of POTUS 46 (D)?
Yup!!
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Jeffk 1970 wrote:
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Thoughts and prayers:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.co ... 40638/amp/
Whatever could have caused Netflix to think someone would come after them with a gun? Could it have been the headline that said they paid zero corporate taxes last year and in fact got a $22M tax credit? Why would that make anyone angry?
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Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:51 am
But a lot of sensible Republicans are really scared about this emergency declaration. Not getting funding is not the same as an emergency, and they might lose, even with their tame judiciary. But it might be worse if they succeed, since the next President might be a Democrat who would declare an emergency due to mass shootings all over the country.
The courts will likely let Trump declare an ‘emergency,’ even if it’s made up: The National Emergencies Act gives the president enormous discretion — and powers.
Upton_O_Goode wrote:
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Well, he hasn't signed the damn thing yet. The word is, McConnell announced that he would sign and declare the emergency because McConnell was in a panic about being once again out on a limb that Trump sawed off. He thinks he has Trump boxed in now and has finally gotten his own paw out of the trap. But we'll see. Trump knows damn well that his base wouldn't care in the slightest if he suddenly shut the government down again.
The problem with Trump not signing the bill as a meaningful action is that the deal passed with veto-proof majorities (83-16 in the Senate and 300-128 in the House). I really don't think Trump had any choice but to take another path.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:29 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:55 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:21 am
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:37 pm
McConnell has explained: Individual-1 will sign the compromise legislation and simultaneously declare a national emergency ...
...a declaration McConnell will prepare (oops) support. Because he wants it to be fought and defeated because he anticipates and is afraid of POTUS 46 (D)?
Yup!!
Not sure about this, given the state of the courts, what the 1976 National Emergency Powers act blows, and the general inability of anyone to make much of anything stick in this environment - e.g., the Senate just confirmed as AG a nominee who proposed an assault on the Mueller probe.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:33 pm

Fox and Friends is reporting this morning that Biden is definitely going to run.
Couple of things:
1) Don’t judge, it’s on at the gym.
2) This isn’t earth shattering news.

I don’t think Biden gets the nomination. I think 2016 was his year to run and this ship has sailed.

Key words: I think. Ever since 2016 I am leery of making can’t miss predictions.
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Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:57 pm

Good luck with that:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politi ... cnn.com%2F
"I hope to see the Republican Party assume once again the mantle of being the party of Lincoln. It upsets me that our energies as a society are being sapped by the President's culture of divisiveness in Washington," he said Friday in New Hampshire. "Because of the many concerns, I've established an exploratory committee ... as a Republican in the 2020 election."
Yeah, blew past that Lincoln thing a long time ago.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:23 pm

I feel safer already. The president (bless him) has at last addressed a concern that appears nowhere on the list of 4m "top concerns I have."
. . . all right we are two nations . . .