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Re: Trump will win!

Post by scrmbldggs » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:24 am

JO 753 wrote:I predict Trump will be completely unrestrained in the next debate, then drop out uv the election befor Monday.

He only wants to create az much kaos az possibl, then feed off the idiots who admire him for it with a new media empire. Sorta like Glen Beck, exept starting with more money.
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Post by JO 753 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:40 am

Rosecrucian.

He will claim to be their Jezus.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by TJrandom » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:41 am

JO 753 wrote:I predict Trump will be completely unrestrained in the next debate, then drop out uv the election befor Monday.

He only wants to create az much kaos az possibl, then feed off the idiots who admire him for it with a new media empire. Sorta like Glen Beck, exept starting with more money.
What? He has been holding back? :lol:

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Post by JO 753 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:43 am

Yes, even on the ET bus! He will wear out the bleep button!
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:46 am

I....what?
What just happened?
Also, Donald Trump is a clownfraud who only got involved in this for the attention.

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:27 pm

From NBC, the polling breakdown shown below is interesting. It also runs counter to much recent analysis describing how Trump has read the electorate successfully to mobilize a populist tsunami.

NBC polling shows that, vs 2012, Clinton underperforms Obama with African American and young voters.

But Clinton does better than Obama - or, put another way, Trump does worse than Romney -with key constituencies targeted by Trump: whites with a college degree, whites overall (!), and men (!).

And Clinton does better than Obama with women and Latinos.

Only with independents does Trump outperform - barely (1 pt) - Romney.

Clearly, if the popular vote on election day is something like what NBC polling suggests today, Trump will lose. But also I think two conclusions will have to be drawn: 1) Trump’s campaign didn’t know how to win and 2) their strategy mistook the mood of the Republican base for the mood of the country, so to speak - that is, rather than tapping into key changes in the electorate, Trump missed key structural changes and attracted by and large a declining rather than expanding type of voter.

NBC data:

• Women: Clinton +20 (55%-35%); Obama +11 (55%-44%)
• Men: Trump +3 (48%-45%); Romney +7 (52%-45%)
• Whites: Trump +11 (51%-40%); Romney +20 (59%-39%)
• Latinos: Clinton +53 (70%-17%); Obama +44 (71%-27%)
• African Americans: Clinton +77 (86%-9%), Obama +87 (Obama 93%-6%)
• Independents: Trump +6 (41%-35%); Romney +5 (50%-45%)
• 18-29 year olds: Clinton +18; Obama +23
• Whites with college degrees: even; Romney +13.

Again, if things wind up like this on election day . . . :)
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Gord » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:19 pm

Gord wrote:On October 11th, Nate Silver made a post over on his website, 538, about how men and women were voting differently: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ele ... 6-forecast
Election Update: Women Are Defeating Donald Trump
If you look at the candidate for whom women are voting and compare that to the candidate for whom men are voting, it's pretty saddening.
Clinton leads Trump by 15 percentage points among women while trailing him by 5 points among men.
That's right, if women didn't have the vote, Trump would be winning this election. The predicted outcome of a male-only vote would have Trump winning 350 electoral seats, and Clinton winning only 188.

But the reverse seems a great deal less shocking to me: When you look at only women voters, Clinton would win 458 electoral seats to Trump's 80. If only women were allowed to vote, the Democrats would even take Alaska, South Dakota, and Texas!

Women are keeping Trump from winning. It's not the men. Men are, in the words of a lot of women, "{!#%@} idiots". I'm offended by that. Not by them saying it -- by it being so obviously true.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Paul Anthony » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:40 pm

OK, women should not be allowed to vote, but that doesn't go far enough.

Men who are not ME should not be allowed to vote.

Let's keep it simple, folks. Stay home and let me decide the election. ;)
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Post by ElectricMonk » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:51 pm

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Paul Anthony wrote:OK, women should not be allowed to vote, but that doesn't go far enough.

Men who are not ME should not be allowed to vote.

Let's keep it simple, folks. Stay home and let me decide the election. ;)
Exactly: we have to get back to the basic principle of Democracy: one man, one vote.

Paul is the man, he has the vote.

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ElectricMonk wrote:No
Paul Anthony wrote:OK, women should not be allowed to vote, but that doesn't go far enough.

Men who are not ME should not be allowed to vote.

Let's keep it simple, folks. Stay home and let me decide the election. ;)
Exactly: we have to get back to the basic principle of Democracy: one man, one vote.

Paul is the man, he has the vote.
Thank you. And let it be known, I will cast my vote for George Washington.

He was the only President who did not want to be a king.
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Post by OlegTheBatty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:27 pm

Paul Anthony wrote:
He was the only President who did not want to be a king.
Hillary doesn't either. :mrgreen:
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Post by OutOfBreath » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:56 pm

ElectricMonk wrote:Paul is the man, he has the vote.
Nono. That would be the patrician of Ankh Morpork. :)

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Paul Anthony » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:23 am

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He was the only President who did not want to be a king.
Hillary doesn't either. :mrgreen:
And she can't be a queen, either. That term is considered a micro-aggression by the LGBT community.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:26 am

:lol:
Also, Donald Trump is a clownfraud who only got involved in this for the attention.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:34 am

My guess, despite the bold title of this thread, is that what Hillary Clinton will be is President.

Paddy Power, an Irish bookmaker, one of the largest in the world, has already begun paying off wagers in favor of Clinton.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:My guess, despite the bold title of this thread, is that what Hillary Clinton will be is Ppp....

Paddy Power, an Irish bookmaker, one of the largest in the world, has already begun paying off wagers in favor of Clinton.
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Post by TJrandom » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:51 am

She will still need majorities in both houses in order to be effective in rolling back the nonsense that the Republicans have wrought upon us these past years.

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TJrandom wrote:She will still need majorities in both houses in order to be effective in rolling back the nonsense that the Republicans have wrought upon us these past years.

Let's hope the Dems have learned from the beginning of Obama's term and actually use whatever majority they've got.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:47 am

TJrandom wrote:International finance and the corrupt media will steal majorities in both houses in order to be effective in tearing down the protective wall that the Republicans have built these past years.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:00 pm

Latest Bloomberg poll has Clinton +9 and echoes NBC internal numbers. According to POLITICO story,
Clinton tops Trump by 17 points among women and also leads among men, 46 percent to 44 percent, including those without a college a degree, 48 percent to 44 percent.
His support among women having cratered, Trump is currently losing men - and men without a college degree ("I love the uneducated") - thus missing on major parts of his strategy. Women and men, in aggregate, make up a fairly substantial portion of the electorate, :) so if Trump is losing both groups you could say he's in deep {!#%@}.

As pollster Anne Seltzer is quoted regarding men and men without college, “Their alignment with Clinton is a formidable change in the algebra.” Further,
Clinton prevailed when asked which candidate understands issues that matter most to the middle class.
Maybe running an insane campaign full of BS and loathing wasn't Trump's best idea.

OTOH who knows what the {!#%@} ordnance Trump will unload at tonight's debate. Obama's half brother?!?!?! Rumors say he will do the Clinton health conspiracy material, I guess because it worked so well the first debate. If I were him, I would go after the emails and pick one item from the Wikileaks stuff and hammer it relentlessly - Clinton has shown no ability to contend with that stuff. But there's no use speculating what Trump will do, because you can't outsmart crazy.
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He might just feign a tummy ache, stay home, pout, complain and blame. :senile:
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scrmbldggs wrote:He might just feign a tummy ache, stay home, pout, complain and blame. :senile:
Oh, we would all be thankful if that happened.

:lol:
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:51 pm

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scrmbldggs wrote:He might just feign a tummy ache, stay home, pout, complain and blame. :senile:
Oh, we would all be thankful if that happened.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:23 pm

“I think she’s a wonderful woman. I think that she’s a little bit misunderstood. Hillary’s a very smart woman, very tough women, that’s fine. She’s also a very nice person. I think she’s gonna go down at a minimum as a great senator. . . . I think she is a great wife to a president and I think Bill Clinton was a great president. Lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell. Bill Clinton was a great president. Hillary Clinton is a great woman and a good woman.” - DT, 2008 interview
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:lol:

I am loving this debate, I am trying to estimate how meny times Hillary will claim Trump is part of some Russian conspiracy.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:45 am

Trump screwed up really badly. He is pig-ignorant, but this is the killer, along with his demeanor, his refusal to state he will accept the election results: “I will look at it at the time. . . . I will tell you at the time. I will keep you in suspense.”

And, "Such a nasty woman." And "bad hombres."

What a thuggish creep.
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Re: Trump will win!

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I`ll bet she isn`t as ... n a s t y, as some he has grabbed by the pussy. :lol:

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:57 am

TJrandom wrote:I`ll bet she isn`t as ... n a s t y, as some he has grabbed by the pussy. :lol:
"Pussy grabs back."

Gloria Allred will be introducing another victim of sexual assault by DJT at a press conference tomorrow. Announced oh about the time the debate ended.

Republican commentators on TV know that Trump is cooked. One said that the inside word is that he did better tonight, but Clinton did much better than she has, too. And he made at least one remark - on accepting the election results - that disqualifies Trump in a historically yuuuuge way.

After the debate, Trump exited the Thomas & Mack Center, huddling briefly with his closest advisers, whilst Clinton, with that sly smile she wore during the debate, greeted people in the audience and accepted high five congrats all around.
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TJrandom wrote:I`ll bet she isn`t as ... n a s t y, as some he has grabbed by the pussy. :lol:
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Post by Balsamo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:38 pm

Well, Hilary was not really great last night...and crazy Donny was much better than usual...
Saw that Hilary was being tempted by playing her own conspiracy theory which does not seem to have the same echo among people...Media favoring Clinton CT? well her rants on Putin is ridiculous at best...maybe founded, but the way she was crying Putin spying Americans? The USA being the all time champ of spying the whole world? How does that sound? She was pathetic.

Just like when she said that she would not add a penny to the debt! LOL...

As for the Clinton foundation, a new scandal emerge...from France, where a minister used a new tax to fund the foundation...we are talking about 100.000.000 euros here...you may have known about this french minister as he is going to be the next president of the WHO...or not, as things are getting quite hot on the other side of the Atlantic...Basically, the idea of this new tax was that the proceed was to be given to a charity...and of course, we all know that there are no better charitable organization as the Clinton's one, right? Well the CF was supposed to get the fund to buy cheap medicines for poor countries, in this case Haiti, but it does not seem that is what happened.

And as stupid as he is, crazy Donny is quite right when it comes to Syria...

Because if this undefined notion of "imposing a no-fly zone" still dupes anyone, then that would be worrying. A no-fly zone does not save lives, it kills the people who you want to kill, it allowed biased revolution, it allows murder, why because it is undefined. Keeping a no-fly zone in Libya turned to be a mean to bomb ground troops, infrastructures, and cities even when the Libyan government kept its plane on the ground!

Well, being partial, i will leave it here...but in my mind, she clearly lost that one...and big.

Anyone checked the polls after this one?

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:59 pm

Yes, polls were, from memory, CNN/ORC Clinton 42, Trump 39; You Gov Clinton 49, Trump 41. MSNBC ran a focus group of mostly undecided; those who switched because of the debate broke 2:1 for Clinton. Trump lost bigly - on demeanor and his "I alone can fix it" attitude very specifically in the MSNBC focus group, probably also on his answer on respecting the election outcome should he lose, on "Such a nasty woman," on "bad hombres."

Where he won: in some so-called "instant polls," with Kellyanne Conway (although she doesn't believe it she has to say it), and in your mind.

I am glad that you had a translator through which to run Trump's Syria word salad - the question being what would he do as president after Mosul is (presumably) taken. I gave up trying to figure out what he was trying to say. I didn't have a translator.

Today OTOH a new font was released - BF Tiny Hand. This is big news. Maybe if he printed out his word salads in BF Tiny Hand people could follow them.
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:lol:
I am glad that you had a translator through which to run Trump's Syria word salad - the question being what would he do as president after Mosul is (presumably) taken. I gave up trying to figure out what he was trying to say. I didn't have a translator.
No need for a translator to see that the USA wanted to duplicated what (seemed to have worked) in Libya, and transplant it in Syria, by heavily arming through their gulfic allies any groups who was against the Assad regime, and finally to face a mess when most of those uncontrollable rebels group chose to join Isis...The the USA and its allies decided that ISIS should be bomb in the name of war against terrorism, but meanwhile want to impose a no-fly zone upon Alleppo because those rebel groups chose not to join ISIS and so are good rebels...
Why if anyone would ask the UN an no-fly zone above Mossul to protect the 250.000 civilians still living there? Any idea of US reactions?

While anyone in the known of this case reached the conclusion that if the Assad regime still stands after 5 years, it is because most of the minorities understood by now that they would be doomed if the Sunni Islamist gain power. Still after 5 years, the USA and its allies - while most of them chose to back down their rethoric - are still repeating the same BS...We are in Syria to save lives and promote democracy...
Meanwhile the Migrant crisis is the biggest threat ever one European democracies since Hitler...

And even if that hurts, Trump is right, the US state department messed up - as usual? - and now tries to find a easy way out that just does not exist.
the same way, this Syrian crisis brought Russia back to the stage, and if we like it or not, things will have to be adapted...
And again, Trump is right - i can't believe i am saying this - but good relation between Russia and the USA is the way to go, and probably the cheapest way for the USA to keep its empire for a couple of decades.
The risk for the USA being that sooner or later Europe would make the deal, that is getting closer to Russia, first...If that was the case, no matter how many trillions Americans would still dedicate to their weapon industry, it would be useless... the grip would be lost.

And while the world focus on the "pussygate", i see that the EU is in such a crisis that i don't see how one could get out of it. The two pending free trade agreement are anything but a sure thing, and this is a billion dollars issue. And you would not believe how popular Putin is on continental Europe...It is really frighting, to speak frankly.

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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Jeff_36 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:17 am

but folks, have you seen Aleppo? Have you seen it? We've got bad hombres

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:28 am

An unscientific but probably more accurate view of the last debate:

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:My guess, despite the bold title of this thread, is that what Hillary Clinton will be is President.

Paddy Power, an Irish bookmaker, one of the largest in the world, has already begun paying off wagers in favor of Clinton.

so 4 years ago - what kind of odds could you have gotten for that bet ?

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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:21 am

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TJrandom wrote:I`ll bet she isn`t as ... n a s t y, as some he has grabbed by the pussy. :lol:
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found a good video for that - the live sessions summer series - its not what I expected at all

for some reason I cant do links anymore - was able to do a few then :burn:

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Youtube haz its own button here. about rite ^ in the middle row. You haf to delete the s out uv https to make it work.
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Re: Trump will win!

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:39 am

Jeff_36: before making more election comments, please read and think carefully about the above. :)
. . . all right we are two nations . . .