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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:12 pm

Nor does he understand what evidence is and how to evaluate it. But the "discussion" then takes up witches . . . ? Perhaps this will help:

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Hey, without checking I already know that it is been-there. The “Holy Moly” and emojis gave him away. Plus the babbling about witches is always a dead giveaway.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Goody67 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:45 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:13 pm
Hey, without checking I already know that it is been-there. The “Holy Moly” and emojis gave him away. Plus the babbling about witches is always a dead giveaway.
Is he an old-timer conspiracy theorist on various Holocaust denier forums?

He joined RODOH in 2013.
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:48 pm

Goody67 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:45 pm
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:13 pm
Hey, without checking I already know that it is been-there. The “Holy Moly” and emojis gave him away. Plus the babbling about witches is always a dead giveaway.
Is he an old-timer conspiracy theorist on various Holocaust denier forums?

He joined RODOH in 2013.
I only know him from RODOH. In my time there he did this to me, write walls of texts with “Holy Moly’s” tossed in for good measure. His favorite is the eye roll. He randomly quote mines from everyone under the sun and refuses to answer questions. Fun times.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Goody67 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:48 pm
I only know him from RODOH. In my time there he did this to me, write walls of texts with “Holy Moly’s” tossed in for good measure. His favorite is the eye roll. He randomly quote mines from everyone under the sun and refuses to answer questions. Fun times.
Has he ever posted on here or does he prefer to stay on forums which are in his safe zone where he is surrounded by other conspiracy theorist nutjobs?

What I find fun about the deniers is how they try and portray themselves to know more about the Holocaust than academics, scholars, forensic anthropologists, historians, experts in certain fields, etc.

I think the classic and laughable thing is when non-Germans pretend to know what the Nazis meant when using certain German words, e.g. non-German deniers try and claim that Himmler in his Posen speech did not really mean "exterminate" when stating "Ausrottung des jüdischen Volkes". Their claim is easily debunked:

https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-his ... tten.shtml

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... peech.html

The thoroughly debunked claim is still mentioned from time to time.
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:23 pm

been-there is Chris Crookes (a Brit who now lives in Sweden), a prolific Amazon reviewer, writer of a "coming out" piece for Smith's Report (https://codoh.com/library/document/1896/), and then member at Rodoh. I don't know of his posting elsewhere. He's not very bright - and lacks both imagination and knowledge of what it is he thinks he's bravely revising. He's also quite obnoxiously condescending but he can use copy and paste. Which gets him into difficulty as he quote mines dishonestly and he plagiarizes (or at least did), often IIRC from Weber.

Here's a post on Rodoh on his "intellectual" bio: https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... kes#p48167.
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Post by Darren Wilshak » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:57 pm

Whew, for one horrible moment there I thought BT had joined SSF.
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:13 pm

Goody67 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm
What I find fun about the deniers is how they try and portray themselves to know more about the Holocaust than academics, scholars, forensic anthropologists, historians, experts in certain fields, etc.
Like blake and EtienneSC, they wish to revise "the official history" without having read any of it to speak of. And blake calls that "skepticism."
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:13 pm
Goody67 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm
What I find fun about the deniers is how they try and portray themselves to know more about the Holocaust than academics, scholars, forensic anthropologists, historians, experts in certain fields, etc.
Like blake and EtienneSC, they wish to revise "the official history" without having read any of it to speak of. And blake calls that "skepticism."
My Facebook denier thinks he knows everything because he read a bunch of Holocaust Handbooks and watched some denier videos.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Goody67 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm
Has he ever posted on here or does he prefer to stay on forums which are in his safe zone where he is surrounded by other conspiracy theorist nutjobs?
He says he never belonged here. There was a poster named “Focus” who reminded me of him but I have no idea if it was him or not. “Focus” hasn’t posted in years.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Post by Darren Wilshak » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:01 pm

Its obvious from BT''s posts that he is on a completely other planet as regards the Holocaust.
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:23 pm
been-there is Chris Crookes (a Brit who now lives in Sweden), a prolific Amazon reviewer, writer of a "coming out" piece for Smith's Report (https://codoh.com/library/document/1896/), and then member at Rodoh. I don't know of his posting elsewhere. He's not very bright - and lacks both imagination and knowledge of what it is he thinks he's bravely revising. He's also quite obnoxiously condescending but he can use copy and paste. Which gets him into difficulty as he quote mines dishonestly and he plagiarizes (or at least did), often IIRC from Weber.

Here's a post on Rodoh on his "intellectual" bio: https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... kes#p48167.
You have confirmed my thoughts, he is a total whackjob.
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Goody67 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:10 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:25 pm
My Facebook denier thinks he knows everything because he read a bunch of Holocaust Handbooks and watched some denier videos.
A common theme among the deniers. A denier online will often post something along the lines of, "You only know what propaganda has taught you, have you read any revisionist works?" :roll: I also think that many of the online deniers lie about reading even Holocaust "revisionist" books.

The quote below sums up deniers to a tee:
Well put, One of the main effects of illusory superiority in IQ is the "Downing effect". This describes the tendency of people with a below-average IQ to overestimate their IQ. The lower the IQ, the less capable of accurately appraising other people's IQs.
This is why they cannot discuss anything without abuse; the reality is their appalling low IQ is a disability. The degree to which people view themselves as more desirable than the average person links to reduced activation in their orbitofrontal cortex and dorsal anterior cingulate cortex. This is suggested to link to the role of these areas in processing "cognitive control".
A noticeable fact is that all of these people emphasize their superiority in reading books, but none have ever read a proper scientific University publication and challenged it through individualized thinking. A common thread is to ask "what books have you read' as though authors who all quote one another have the slightest contribution to make. These people are self congratulatory, safe within their own little delusional world, each individual being a total non event.

Very simply put they cannot see outside their own bubble of illusion, like echoes bouncing of the walls unaware that others are looking in and laughing at them, uncontrollably at times, most times. The point is that they have proven that they are incapable of rational discussion, thinking they know all the answers with self appraising smugness. They have a holocaust forum whose function is simple debasement while they are sniffing and chasing each others tails. It might be different if they had something to offer. I am sure there is more to discuss than those halfwits.
https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 20#p150408

Huntinger did us all a favour in that post and reminded us that deniers are uneducated morons.
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Goody67 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:19 am

I came across a video of Fritz Berg "the engineer" giving a "lecture" about Diesels, gas wagons and Zyklon B:

Diesels, gaswagons and Zyklon B with Fritz Berg Automotive Engineer

It's clear now that the nutter has been a joke for decades. His Holocaust denial views appear very quickly in the video.

An engineer, my arse!
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:17 am

Did you know this is a war with soldiers and officers?

:)

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 9&start=45

There is discussion of handing out leaflets at Walmart.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:11 am

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:17 am
Did you know this is a war with soldiers and officers?

:)

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 9&start=45

There is discussion of handing out leaflets at Walmart.
I really like both these posts by Pia Kahn - where the idea that 9/11 truthing represents success for a CT (!) but also the one that reads "T," which is Pia Kahn's best post indeed:

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Post by Denying-History » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:18 pm

Goody67 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:48 pm
I only know him from RODOH. In my time there he did this to me, write walls of texts with “Holy Moly’s” tossed in for good measure. His favorite is the eye roll. He randomly quote mines from everyone under the sun and refuses to answer questions. Fun times.
Has he ever posted on here or does he prefer to stay on forums which are in his safe zone where he is surrounded by other conspiracy theorist nutjobs?

What I find fun about the deniers is how they try and portray themselves to know more about the Holocaust than academics, scholars, forensic anthropologists, historians, experts in certain fields, etc.

I think the classic and laughable thing is when non-Germans pretend to know what the Nazis meant when using certain German words, e.g. non-German deniers try and claim that Himmler in his Posen speech did not really mean "exterminate" when stating "Ausrottung des jüdischen Volkes". Their claim is easily debunked:

https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-his ... tten.shtml

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... peech.html

The thoroughly debunked claim is still mentioned from time to time.
It is important to remember though that ausrotten did not always mean extermination.
« The Terror here is a horrifying fact. There is a fear that reaches down and haunts all sections of the community. No household, however humble, apparently but what lives in constant fear of nocturnal raid by the secret police. . .This particular purge is undoubtedly political. . . It is deliberately projected by the party leaders, who themselves regretted the necessity for it. »
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:17 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:11 am
Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:17 am
Did you know this is a war with soldiers and officers?

:)

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 9&start=45

There is discussion of handing out leaflets at Walmart.
I really like both these posts by Pia Kahn - where the idea that 9/11 truthing represents success for a CT (!) but also the one that reads "T," which is Pia Kahn's best post indeed:

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I think when it comes down to it, we all probably believe something weird, but that must not hinder the revision of the holocaust.
Truer words have never been spoken.
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Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:34 pm

I’m a member of those groups that asshat mentions. Funny...I’ve never seen any “soldiers” or “officers” talking to group members but I may shoot a message and let them know.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:44 pm

Well, I guess it'd be a step up for them be laughingstocks like 9/11 truthers.
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:29 pm

This should be more properly included here:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=22854&p=714701#p714701

I think this is what baffles me in dealing with stuff like this. It becomes necessary to explain things to people who don’t comprehend what they deny.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:10 pm

Speaking of this viewtopic.php?f=39&t=31605&start=40#p714839, it's been over a month since the last piece was posted at HC: "There's nothing to respond to anymore."
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:27 am

The old "hits" played again and again . . . Here Codohites self-rate arguments they use on a success scale of sorts. It's not clear from the text of the OP who the author thinks are "believers" - the general public or those who debate with deniers. The framing is having " the opportunity to provide someone 5 reasons why they should doubt the 'Holocaust.'" The OP says that "good/successful arguments" include:

- "Universal agreement by Nazi documents that "Final Solution" meant resettlement/deportation."
- "Lack of huge mass graves at the AR camps, despite multiple excavations"
- "Unsuitability of Zyclon-B and Auschwitz alleged homicidal gas chambers for mass murder"
- "Eyewitness testimony of gassings at regular concentration camps (Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau, etc) which historians claim had no gassing, showing that Jews did in fact lie about gas chambers."
- "Open air pyres at the AR camps. . . . If they truly insisted on killing as many people as possible, why roast the victims in an enormous barbecue?
- "Nazis did not destroy all of the alleged 'extermination facilities'"
- "Jews admit the '5 million' gentiles number is a lie. This proves they are totally willing to invent millions of deaths"

The OP says that these "arguments" are "mediocre":

- "Crematory capacities at Auschwitz."
- "Illegal to deny in many countries."
- "All 'Death camps' with gas chambers were liberated by the USSR."
- "Nazis who denied the Holocaust. Believers will just say those people are liars and only wanted to save their own asses"

And, according to the OP, here are some "bad/unsuccessful/weak arguments":

- "All those compilations of "6,000,000 Jews" articles from the 1800s up until the 1930s"
- "Auschwitz numbers changing from 4 to 1 million."
- "International Red Cross records of 300 thousand deaths. Believers will just say those are the recorded deaths from other causes, and the exterminated jews were not recorded there."
- "Richard Krege's GPR scan of Treblinka. He never published, and Sturdy-Colls did, and failed to show us any 'huge mass graves' which would necessarily exist. I think it's more prudent to focus on Sturdy-Colls' failed excavation than Krege's unpublished report"
- "Swimming pools and soccer teams."

Some comments disagree, for example, touting Auschwitz death toll or cremation capacity at Auschwitz or Red Cross records. Against these Lambrecht says that "these have canned, ready-to-go refutations" and links to, among others, Aaron's Imgur page on the Red Cross. Hannover tried defending Krege's "work."

Some others chip in to suggest more "good" arguments: Majdanek death toll, IMT conspiracy theory mongering, Fritz Berg on diesel and corpse color, Treblinka steam chambers, Allied actions causing the vast majority of KL inmates death ("Even such holocaust promoters as the USHMM now acknowledge that, except for some disciplinary executions, no one was intentionally killed in these camps"), asking questions like "how does a pile of shoes prove anything about gas chambers?", a case where Holocaust victims presumed dead were found to be alive, why starve people needed for labor, why send out anyone from Auschwitz, and so on.
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Re: The state of online Holocaust denial

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:27 am

- "Universal agreement by Nazi documents that "Final Solution" meant resettlement/deportation."
- "Lack of huge mass graves at the AR camps, despite multiple excavations"
How does one become this self-deceived? Claiming that the Nazi documents which actually deal the death blow to holocaust denial are, in fact, in agreement with them is literally the historiographical equivalent of 2+2=5.

These cretins would honestly be better off just bleating about the "mass grave/cremation" issue, they could at least keep producing "calculations" and claims on grave space and cremation times to obfuscate and BS around the issue, which might seem compelling to gullible and ignorant people.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:32 pm

It is a bit stunning.

I'd inserted into the draft of my post "?!?!?!" for some of the more outrageously delusional items in the OP . . . but then my post started to get cluttered. That entire Codoh thread is, as you say, self-deceptive, starting with the imaginary conversations they have with people about the 5 reasons "not to believe."

The very first item cites a "universal agreement" that doesn't exist; "universal agreement" there, and elsewhere, means, in fact, that nobody but hard-core deniers agree - and even some of the hard-core deniers recently realized the absurdity of the argument on resettlement. Which those posting in the thread curiously (conveniently though) ignore: I mean, how well did the "strong" arguments work on some of them, like Eric Hunt? These arguments can't even hold the faithful.

I guess Rodoh is pretty much obsessed Treblinka - just as you say, for the reason you give: the frail hope that pseudo technical and scientific obfuscation of mass grave and cremation parameters, based on dishonesty about the witness and forensic evidence - might get an unknowledgeable individual or two might fall for HD. That's a hell of an outreach program, though.

If the best Codoh can do, OTOH, is to repeat old saws, ignore HC and others who've refuted all the "strong" and other claims, pretend they're not losing voices once important to them, and make up crap about the case against HD, they might as well simply declare themselves an anti-Semitic "feel good" club, where the point is giving one another positive strokes. That's what it seems like they do.
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Simply put, one could breath exhaust from an unloaded diesel all day.
I sense an experiment they can try....
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Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:19 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
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Simply put, one could breath exhaust from an unloaded diesel all day.
I sense an experiment they can try....
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Along with not eating to show that they can "persist quite a long time with no food whatever." I suggest they try a couple weeks or so for starters - and finishers.
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Oh noes, tired old backslapping codoh crap about how to convince people about Revisionism again.

At least they are not crowing with glee currently about converting 14 year olds to this BS credo of theirs though. Eric Hunt, Berg's former partner in 20th Century hoax was at least HALF WAY honest when he admitted that the best way to take the fight to the Jews etc was to forget about Revisionism.

Gabbling to your friends about Revisionism is pointless to all but those who agree with you. Simply because it was then, is now and forever will be, a load of rubbish. They should stick to reposting Anti Semitic memes. Oh but that would make them the same as every other Neo board...Both board's, Smith's and Hargis's seem to be going around around and around in circles. They become this way because they don't read any proper history and beleive each other's scientifick Methode crap. Its as if they are the Historical equivalent of the Galapogos islands, cut off from sense, reason and proper understanding.
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Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:37 pm

Can’t forget this:

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Naturally what isn’t addressed is that not all of the prisoners were Jewish and it only applied to those who worked.
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Post by Darren Wilshak » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:41 pm

Holy quote mines Batman!

Oh God yes and did you know that caring sharing Josef Kramer at Bergen Belsen was also only trying to help?
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Post by Darren Wilshak » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:12 pm

What baffles me here is why do all these self appointed Revs put them selves forward as being qualified to revise the Holocaust? I suppose all you need is an Internet connection, the ability to use Google and reasonable eyesight and hearing. But ffs, its a very low entry requirement to have functioning senses. Not even to the stage of H 101 knowledge wise though, is it?
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:43 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:37 pm
Can’t forget this:


D06069D9-4D13-4AF0-8BDB-6FB32527C306.png

Naturally what isn’t addressed is that not all of the prisoners were Jewish and it only applied to those who worked.
There are so many dishonest assumptions, so much BS, and such ignorance of the literature on the topic with that one that I must paraphrase Wolfgang Pauli, courtesy of Kleon, and say that that is not only not right, it is not even wrong!
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Post by Goody67 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:48 pm

Denying-History wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:18 pm
It is important to remember though that ausrotten did not always mean extermination.
That’s true, but in the context of which Himmler used it in his Posen speech it meant extermination.
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Post by Darren Wilshak » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:23 pm

Yes but did he write in Sutterlin Herr Muehlenkamp...

We've had some toe curling awful reports of dumb arse idiota face booked Holocaust deniers recently.

Stupidos y buroos - if what I read of their classy antics at Zuck Zentrale (ie.faceborked) from Jeff36 in his Buchenwald thread are to be believed...
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:13 pm

:rotfl:
I read worthless books...
OBVIOUSLY I want you to watch the 2 hour video after 3 weeks of dodging, rather than read the Hoess book for 3 weeks or months and THEN dodge!

I have made this abundantly clear with every response. And why.

would want you to as well I am sure.

You can't even (a) watch the video, (b) admit to have seen the video - that speaks more than your stupendous excuses for not having done so this last 3 weeks..

(1) It's 2 hours long! Yet you will read dozens of worthless books.....
(2) Family reasons: Yeah that's good and well but point 1 refutes that for you.
I didn’t screenshot due to personal information being in the post. It’s my Facebook denier.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

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“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Books suck... :rotfl:
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
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Post by Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:14 pm

What’s fascinating about him is he thinks he can dictate to me what I do with my time.
Question for Groening by a reporter:
“Mr. Groening, what do you say to those who still deny the Holocaust?”

Groening:
“Nothing. They are hopelessly lost.”


Hhhhhhhmmmmmm, is it possible that Carlo Mattogno is the greatest scholar the world has ever known?
:lol: :lol:
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Post by Darren Wilshak » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:00 pm

Videos suck moar. Please watch my video...
"We are still waiting for anyone to rebut the main theme of the article that the decode in question and the numbers it quoted perfectly match those in the Korherr report.

Until such a rebuttal comes to light and goes through peer review the article stands the test of time. And after 10 years since the article was published both Peter (Witte) and I have moved on to other research projects. "

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Post by Goody67 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:01 pm

Darren Wilshak wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:28 pm
Oh noes, tired old backslapping codoh crap about how to convince people about Revisionism again.

At least they are not crowing with glee currently about converting 14 year olds to this BS credo of theirs though. Eric Hunt, Berg's former partner in 20th Century hoax was at least HALF WAY honest when he admitted that the best way to take the fight to the Jews etc was to forget about Revisionism.

Gabbling to your friends about Revisionism is pointless to all but those who agree with you. Simply because it was then, is now and forever will be, a load of rubbish. They should stick to reposting Anti Semitic memes. Oh but that would make them the same as every other Neo board...Both board's, Smith's and Hargis's seem to be going around around and around in circles. They become this way because they don't read any proper history and beleive each other's scientifick Methode crap. Its as if they are the Historical equivalent of the Galapogos islands, cut off from sense, reason and proper understanding.
This is exactly how I feel about how revisionism is these days.

When are we going to have a new claim be made by some marvelous denier who is going to prove that the Holocaust never happened? :roll:

All of the claims about Auschwitz, Treblinka, death figures, use of gas, etc, have all been answered and refuted, yet we still find the likes of Turnagain on the RODOH forum repeating the same nonsense he has been posting for quite a few years now. He even has the nerve to try and claim that Eric Hunt never acknowledged that he was wrong about his claims in his videos.

Holocaust denial (or what the people like to call 'revisionism') has been dead for years, but we still can easily read the deluded deniers trying to fool themselves:
i think the mass purging/censoring of anything critical of Israel and holocaust revisionism by the popular social platforms may be an indication that too many people are beginning to question a lot of things
As revisionism's case is being proven and taken up by many many people I have noticed more recently the application of the sneering dismissal in comments back to anyone like me who claims it didn't happen. The withering reducer is often used.
What is the current state of WWW responses to the Revisionist research & opinion onslaught?

I wonder if the anti-semitic neo-Nazi bellends sleep better by pretending to themselves that suddenly the masses are beginning to believe in their absolute rubbish. The internet has helped people reach material about the Holocaust. So, despite their deluded belief that it is helping Holocaust denial, it is actually allowing people to read more information about the true horrors of the Holocaust more easily.

RODOH seems to be the place for the idiots who are obsessed about Treblinka and who like to repeat the same tedious claims over and over again e.g. lack of mass graves, no proof of gassing, the eyewitnesses lied, etc. As soon as one asks one of the deniers to provide evidence of those claims then he or she is banned and accused of trolling and then restricted to the Siberian Exile. In other words, the deniers know deep down that they don't have any evidence for their claims.

The deniers aren't interested in a debate at all. They think because they have watched a few Holocaust denial videos on YouTube and maybe read a few Holocaust denial books they are all of a sudden experts on the Holocaust. Remember, according to them, books detailing about the Holocaust is Jewish propaganda or Soviet propaganda. As soon as one asks a denier what books about the Holocaust he or she has read then it becomes quite obvious that he or she doesn't have a clue about the subject at all. :D Remember what the {!#%@} Huntinger reminded us of a little while ago viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26565&start=2520#p714562.

Let's be honest, how many of the deniers are actually sane? It doesn't take long before you stumble across posts advocating the deaths of Jews, claiming Hitler was right, etc. It's no wonder that no one takes the morons seriously.
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Post by Goody67 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:02 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:14 pm
What’s fascinating about him is he thinks he can dictate to me what I do with my time.
Recommend him a few books to read, then again, you already know what answer you will get from him. :lol: :D
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