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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Jeff_36 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:45 am

Take body disposal. The large crematoria were clear across camp from Bath Building 1. Does that make sense? Obviously not
yet SM is spreading stories like 'Hauptscharführer Klein instructed Muhsfeldt on operation of the overns; witnesses (survivor Wanda Bialas, for example) describe observing from the nearby laundry corpses arriving at the crematorium on carts, as described upthread; according to Muhsfeldt's testimony, "With round-the-clock operation, each oven could incinerate about 100 bodies per day," not a number that could keep up with the camp's production of dead bodies
David, we have already established that open-air cremation was used for gassing victims. Have you read any of SM's posts?

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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Jeff_36 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:49 am

With a low death-toll from gassings and a brief window of exclamatory operation KLL is a footnote in the Holocaust. Maley Trotsenits had a higher death toll FFS. It is strange that we have a seven page thread on this topic.

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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:07 am

Jeff_36 wrote:
Take body disposal. The large crematoria were clear across camp from Bath Building 1. Does that make sense? Obviously not
yet SM is spreading stories like 'Hauptscharführer Klein instructed Muhsfeldt on operation of the overns; witnesses (survivor Wanda Bialas, for example) describe observing from the nearby laundry corpses arriving at the crematorium on carts, as described upthread; according to Muhsfeldt's testimony, "With round-the-clock operation, each oven could incinerate about 100 bodies per day," not a number that could keep up with the camp's production of dead bodies
David, we have already established that open-air cremation was used for gassing victims. Have you read any of SM's posts?
Two other relevant points - David's post is actually hilarious - are 1) that the crematory clear across the camp is irrelevant because, as I've posted several times, it wasn't put into operation until November 1943, after the gassings had stopped and 2) one area of the cremation pits lay not far southwest of the gas chambers as shown on this map at 4 (the gas chambers are at 6):

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(a better map showing the same location of these cremation pits is in Maïlander, p 113)
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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:41 am

Balsamo wrote:Now I have read that those plan were only provisional plans, but this is usual in any construction, but does not imply that big changed bad been made, basically because well the building stands there as in the plan. there is nothing that shows that those blueprints have been modified substantially.
Plans can be re-purposed without major new construction, which I believe to be the case here. One bathhouse, no. 41, has internal construction details (e.g., size of shower area, width of corridor, location of walls, doorways, etc) that differ to the blueprint. I hate making this overly complex but since the two bathhouses have different details in their interiors, one size doesn't fit all. Given this, looking for perfect design as opposed to improvised, workable use seems to me the wrong thought process.
Balsamo wrote:As I added, it would also be the logical thing, that is to go North to South, and not the opposite, the main camp being south and the entrance North.
Something is off here, and one of David's posts, which someone quoted before, also makes a similar but erroneous assumption about arriving prisoners.

Prisoners didn't enter the bathhouse area from the north end of the bathhouses, not under the pavilion. Arriving prisoners were generally taken to a spot of ground called the Rosengarten just west of bathhouse no. 42, beside the bathhouse if you will, at neither the northern or southern end. They sometimes waited there quite a long time before being processed. Usually, those selected for work were taken first to the bathhouse where they showered and dressed; those selected for gassing were gathered and made to wait in a section of the Rosengarten and then taken for gassing when the others had completed showering and dressing. (I've posted about this previously and IIRC quoted from testimony about it.)

Again, the original plan seems to have had prisoners proceeding north to south - even given what scrmbldggs says - but when the bunker was built to the north, and when it was decided to utilize it for gassing of prisoners - then the repurposing of the existing facility came into play. There are many testimonies from prisoners about being gathered in the Rosengarten and waiting to be processed.

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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:39 pm

Balsamo wrote:Now the south north model would ruined this logic, as the inmates would enter the camps in their dirty cloth and somehow re-exit the camp through the delousing process and then go back the same way they used when they still had their dirty cloth and hair.
Welcome to the wonderful world of barracks minutia! So in bathhouse no. 41 there’s a "pathway" of 2 doors leading from the shower room through room 11 to its south and out to the area between the two bathhouses, south of the barbed wire fence around the canopy roof area. A decent enough improvised solution that wouldn’t have prisoners, in order to exit, going back through the dirty areas they’d come in. This also speaks to a minor reconfiguration vs the blueprint you saw - in this part of the building, addition of the door, closing off of another door, elimination of one room, extension of another, and repositioning of some walls, etc (the exit door leading out of the facility to the west is marked on the post-war Commission schematic).
Balsamo wrote:there is nothing that shows that those blueprints have been modified substantially.
Au contraire - for building no. 41, the post-liberation Polish-Soviet Commission schematic from August 1944 (Graf & Mattogno, document 34, p 291) by no means matches the March 1942 exactly: from the Commission's postwar report we can see the degree to which that building deviated the March plan. I don't have the stages and details of the "transformations," but they're evident by comparing the two documents.

By the way, deniers like David have been saying that the buildings were built exactly to the extant March 1942 blueprint. If you’ve not spent time with this stuff, it sounds plausible. I can see that you picked up on what David and deniers say here. But the facts are different. Versus the March blueprint, the simple reality is that adjustments were made, no matter how many times someone posts differently.
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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Balsamo » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:53 pm

Thanks,

Actually no, sorry for the others, but I only read the posts by you and Nessie, at least for the first 5 pages.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:55 pm

LOL - good decision on David . . . !
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He believes in burning pits-

Post by David » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:26 pm

[quote="Statistical Mechanic
David, we have already established that open-air cremation was used for gassing victims. Have you read any of SM's posts?[/quote]
Two other relevant points - David's post is actually hilarious - are 1) that the crematory clear across the camp is irrelevant because, as I've posted several times, it wasn't put into operation until November 1943, after the gassings had stopped and 2) one area of the cremation pits lay not far southwest of the gas chambers as shown on this map at 4 (the gas chambers are at 6):

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(a better map showing the same location of these cremation pits is in Maïlander, p 113)[/quote]

Hello SM- How have you "established that open-air cremation was used for gassing victims?
It looks like you have just parroted some of the Ugly propaganda tales that "supported" the 1,400,000 dead Lie.
Remember, when the Tale was that 2,000,000 people were murdered, the Tale "needs" burning pits.

Now that the Tale has dropped to somewhere around 45 deaths a day.
It seems ridiculous to be declaring your faith in "cremation pits."

Please try and think logically and skeptically.
It would also help if you had visited Majdanek rather than trying to "establish" things from the comfort
of your arm chair.

Can you please tell us the number of bodies you visualize has being cremated in these "burning pits?"

Do you see something like the stories of Dr. Bendel...2,000 bodies sizzling away?
Do you imagine pools of boiling human fat, like Tauber saw?
Pregnant women exploding?

I am sorry that you find NOT believing in your cremation pits "actually hilarious."
I think that the stories are sick, impossible and ugly.

But please tell us how many bodies were cremated at a time in your cremation pits. Thank you.
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Post by David » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:47 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Arriving prisoners were generally taken to a spot of ground called the Rosengarten just west of bathhouse no. 42,
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Yes indeed, right next to your cremation pyres.

Building 42 (correctly known as Bath house 2) is at 6 on the map
while the site of the alleged cremation pyres is at 4. just west of the bath house-

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Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:31 am

Well, "just 45 a day" wouldn't have seemed like such a major affair, eh.

But before we even could say anything, what do we know about the actual distance? And time of day the pyres were used?
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:57 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Well, "just 45 a day" wouldn't have seemed like such a major affair, eh.
David only celebrates the 3rd of November 1943, record breaking effort, for Majdanek. That was 18,000 Jews shot in one day. He is quite depressed with the low total of 45 a day.

Maybe if we started shooting 45 neo-nazi holocaust deniers a day, this would cheer David up, as he is a "revisionist" neo-nazi. We can then ask David to finally answer Statistic's growing list of questions, as a "revisionist". We he dodges again, we can shoot David last. That way everyone wins!
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:24 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:. . .We can then ask David to finally answer Statistic's growing list of questions, as a "revisionist". We he dodges again, we can shoot David last. That way everyone wins! [/color] :D
He still hasn't answered? He ignored the 5 questions I asked him a few days ago? LOL
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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:. . .We can then ask David to finally answer Statistic's growing list of questions, as a "revisionist". We he dodges again, we can shoot David last. That way everyone wins! :D
He still hasn't answered? He ignored the 5 questions I asked him a few days ago? LOL
Doesn't look like he's answered as much as asking you a question now that he's located buildings 42 and 41 and also the location of the open-air cremation on the map you provided: How could "45 a day" have been sufficient to heat the water for the camp?



(Hope you don't mind that I messed with the quoting. :-P)
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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

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scrmbldggs wrote:Well, "just 45 a day" wouldn't have seemed like such a major affair, eh.

But before we even could say anything, what do we know about the actual distance? And time of day the pyres were used?

Hello scrm-
45 deaths is the REAL number of daily deaths and it should be compared to the Soviet propaganda Lies that you still parrot.
Since you missed the obvious point, 45 deaths a day was a "normal" horrible death rate in a concentration came.
The simple fact is that there was no "room in the death figures" for a "gas chamber."

So that is why I wonder what you diehard Believers in the Last Gas Chamber of Majdanek visualize as happening in your
"gas chamber." Like how many people do you think were killed at a time? Or how many people do you think were killed
by gas in total?

The daily capacity of the cremation furnaces at Majdanek was about 100 bodies per day.
Given that FACT, and the FACT of death rates of around 45 people per day there was no need for your burning pits....
they are just another part of the Soviet 2,000,000 propaganda Lie.

The fact that SM is babbling about how the crowds of victims were left milling around near the cremation pits is
a sign of the inconsistency of Believer logic.

So, why don't you get together with SM and think or a revision to keep your sick stories alive...maybe the huge cremation pits were hidden from the victims by a screen of bushes?

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David wrote:...
Like how many people do you think were killed at a time? Or how many people do you think were killed
by gas in total?
Those estimates were posted in this thread, IIRC, several times. Did you miss them?
The daily capacity of the cremation furnaces at Majdanek was about 100 bodies per day...
Nah, old crematorium capacity was approx 100 per furnace (there were two) running 24 hrs. They were loading and burning several bodies in an hour at a time, tho.

Maybe that's why a new crematorium with five furnaces was planned beginning 1943. So they could give your 45 dailies a decent individual cremation? What do you think?
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Re: Hunts Majdanek film.

Post by Matthew Ellard » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:26 am

David, the lying holocaust denier wrote: 45 deaths is the REAL number of daily deaths
How many Jews were shot at Majdanek on the 3rd of November 1943?

"On November 3, 1943, in Operation "Erntefest" (Harvest Festival), special SS and police units dispatched to Lublin specifically for that purpose shot 18,000 Jews just outside the camp."

Stop dodging. When are you going to answer Statistical Mechanic's questions?

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Could Any Believer in the Last GC just tell us?

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scrmbldggs wrote:
David wrote:...
Like how many people do you think were killed at a time? Or how many people do you think were killed
by gas in total?
Those estimates were posted in this thread, IIRC, several times. Did you miss them?
The daily capacity of the cremation furnaces at Majdanek was about 100 bodies per day...
Nah, old crematorium capacity was approx 100 per furnace (there were two) running 24 hrs. They were loading and burning several bodies in an hour at a time, tho.

Maybe that's why a new crematorium with five furnaces was planned beginning 1943. So they could give your 45 dailies a decent individual cremation? What do you think?
Hello Scrm-
Yes, I missed any estimates given by Believers in the Last Gas Chamber. Please just repeat. Thank you.

Well, now you are claiming that the old system could handle 200 bodies per day!
So, why were your cremation pits needed? Daily deaths were a fourth of that number.

You story is inconsistent. Why would they increase cremation capacity if they had given up your alleged mass gasings?
It would be very helpful if you Believers could tell us the number of people you visualize as have been "gassed" in the
gas chamber either at one time or in total.

The room was about the same size as the "gas chamber" at Krema I Auschwitz. The Tale is that 800 people at a time would be gassed
there. Up to 100,000 in 18 months.

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That would be him. Scumbag.

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David wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
David wrote:...
Like how many people do you think were killed at a time? Or how many people do you think were killed
by gas in total?
Those estimates were posted in this thread, IIRC, several times. Did you miss them?
The daily capacity of the cremation furnaces at Majdanek was about 100 bodies per day...
Nah, old crematorium capacity was approx 100 per furnace (there were two) running 24 hrs. They were loading and burning several bodies in an hour at a time, tho.

Maybe that's why a new crematorium with five furnaces was planned beginning 1943. So they could give your 45 dailies a decent individual cremation? What do you think?
Hello Scrm-
Yes, I missed any estimates given by Believers in the Last Gas Chamber. Please just repeat. Thank you.

Well, now you are claiming that the old system could handle 200 bodies per day!
So, why were your cremation pits needed? Daily deaths were a fourth of that number.

You story is inconsistent. Why would they increase cremation capacity if they had given up your alleged mass gasings?
It would be very helpful if you Believers could tell us the number of people you visualize as have been "gassed" in the
gas chamber either at one time or in total.

The room was about the same size as the "gas chamber" at Krema I Auschwitz. The Tale is that 800 people at a time would be gassed
there. Up to 100,000 in 18 months.
Um noone did answer this.

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New Eric Hunt Video / trading entity check.

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Mondail, the holocaust denier, is promoting Eric Hunt's new video on the JREF forum. Apparently is was released in April 2016. I haven't watched it yet.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... tcount=242

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Matthew Ellard wrote:Mondail, the holocaust denier, is promoting Eric Hunt's new video on the JREF forum. Apparently is was released in April 2016. I haven't watched it yet.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... tcount=242

I lasted 2minutes, 20 seconds: "Why was there a hospital in Auschwitz if the goal was to kill all the Jews?"....

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:53 am

They can't even come up with any new gags for their routine? But maybe you saw just the trailer of Mr Hunt's opus, as film buffs and Holo-enthusiasts Fish-Traynor and Scott Smith surprisingly praise the thing to the skies here. I didn't see that coming.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:They can't even come up with any new gags for their routine? But maybe you saw just the trailer of Mr Hunt's opus, as film buffs and Holo-enthusiasts Fish-Traynor and Scott Smith surprisingly praise the thing to the skies here. I didn't see that coming.

Reading those guys is like a flashback to AHF in 2002-3 as is watching the the Ericunt film.... it's nothing but a retread of old, boring crap long-ago debunked. If Fish and Smith could extricate their respective tongues from Hunt's arse and start reading again they might find something worthy of making a video about. Don't hold your breath.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:46 am

Fish's movie? Did he ever make it? LOL
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:Fish's movie? Did he ever make it? LOL
The Auschwitz "Reporr"? Nein.... Fish talks a lot like Trump: the "Reporr" was to be the "best", "greatest", "winningest" revisionist effort ever..... we're still waiting some 6-8 years on, but hey, Fish is "busy"..... :lol: I guess "busy" collaborating with and writing critical acclaim for Ericunt's failed efforts...

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Xcalibur wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:Mondail, the holocaust denier, is promoting Eric Hunt's new video on the JREF forum. Apparently is was released in April 2016. I haven't watched it yet.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... tcount=242

I lasted 2minutes, 20 seconds: "Why was there a hospital in Auschwitz if the goal was to kill all the Jews?"....
Did he really {!#%@} say that? LOL I'm at a loss for words right now...

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May not be a direct quote but that's the notion.... i didn't hang on his every word to do it exactly right.... he can sue me...

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Post by Jeff_36 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:14 am

Xcalibur wrote:May not be a direct quote but that's the notion.... i didn't hang on his every word to do it exactly right.... he can sue me...
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Xcalibur wrote:Hello X-
Sounds like you crawled in from another thread on the Ugly Soap Tale...something you Believers have a
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Ha, I srsly thought that^ was a quoting mistake, but Xcalibur did quote David back at him, lol...
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scrmbldggs wrote:Ha, I srsly thought that^ was a quoting mistake, but Xcalibur did quote David back at him, lol...
To be honest, I thought the same xD. Thats why I put someone.
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Re: Hanging out around the Camp Fire

Post by ryu » Mon May 09, 2016 8:39 pm

David wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Arriving prisoners were generally taken to a spot of ground called the Rosengarten just west of bathhouse no. 42,
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Yes indeed, right next to your cremation pyres.

Building 42 (correctly known as Bath house 2) is at 6 on the map
while the site of the alleged cremation pyres is at 4. just west of the bath house-
Is this true?

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Re: Hanging out around the Camp Fire

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Mon May 09, 2016 9:46 pm

ryu wrote:
David wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Arriving prisoners were generally taken to a spot of ground called the Rosengarten just west of bathhouse no. 42,
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Yes indeed, right next to your cremation pyres.

Building 42 (correctly known as Bath house 2) is at 6 on the map
while the site of the alleged cremation pyres is at 4. just west of the bath house-
Is this true?
Sort of. What is correct is the following:
1) Incoming prisoners were generally brought to the Rosengarten, which was just to the west of building no. 42 (B&D II), not to the north of the nos. 41 and 42 as David and others seem to think.
2) "6" on the map is actually the "gas chambers" according to this similar rendition; it and the one in the post are too small to show the two bathhouses, the canopy and gas chambers, and the Rosengarten just to their west (left).
3) There were cremation pits at "4," to the west of the road behind the Effektenkammer and other warehouse sheds and potato bins; IIRC these pyres were about 200 m southwest of the gas chamber bunker.
4) Here, from earlier in the thread, is a summary of corpse disposal at Majdanek (it isn't clear how many corpses were burnt at "4"); the burning of corpses began in early 1943 and continued into fall of that year - corpses were incinerated in other parts of the camp, too, for example, "behind Field V" and in a former garden area (Kranz, p 61), in the forests about 8 km from the camp (Maïlander, p 178), and other places. Muhsfeldt estimated that his crew cremated 5,000 corpses in the woods and 3,000 behind Field V (Maïlander, p 179).

The aerial photo below shows the area we're discussing. I've drawn an ungainly red box around the bathhouses and gas chamber bunker area, with a red x where the Rosengarten was. This area is "6" on the smaller map. The red arrow points southwest down the road to where "4" (the area with incineration pits) was.

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I am not sure what point David was trying to make. But this is to the best of my memory and notes.
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Burning pits at the arrival

Post by David » Tue May 10, 2016 12:19 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Is this true?

Sort of.
The point is that your pretend location of the huge burning pits makes no sense.

In your map your "burning pits (4 on the Map) are are huge; bigger than a barracks building ...suitable for tales of 1.4 million people being killed
but ridiculous given the Revised new figures of Majdanek.

More to the point they were people coming into the camp would pass.



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Re: Burning pits at the arrival

Post by Statistical Mechanic » Tue May 10, 2016 12:56 am

David wrote:The point is that your pretend location of the huge burning pits makes no sense.
Whatever you think makes sense or not, the location is documented.

Writing "makes no sense" is a lot easier than explaining the documentation, telling why it makes no sense, and accounting for it.
David wrote:In your map your "burning pits (4 on the Map) are are huge
It is not my map; it's a map I used, from the USHMM web material on Majdanek, I recall, because it was handy and gave a general idea of locations, which is what I wanted to do (I think I mentioned a more detailed map in Maïlander). I've already explained that the map's scale doesn't show the locations at a sufficient level of detail. And I've marked up an aerial photo showing the locations much more clearly. So what if the USHMM's map isn't highly detailed?
David wrote:bigger than a barracks building ...suitable for tales of 1.4 million people being killed but ridiculous given the Revised new figures of Majdanek.
Your stupidity now has you concluding what occurred at the camp based on a map used on the popular, high level part of the USHMM's website. Maps are representations and scale is important, so is intent. The intent of the USHMM map is 1) to show the general layout of the camp (please notice that the level of detail doesn't allow it to show the two bathhouses and canopy), 2) to accompany the web article on the fall of 1943, after the gassings had stopped, particularly the trenches for Operation Harvest Festival, and 3) to support an article that concludes, not that 1.4 million people were killed at Majdanek, but that
Recent research indicates that the SS deported between 74,000 and 90,000 Jews to the Majdanek main camp (excluding subcamps). At least 56,500 were Polish Jews: 26,000 from Lublin District; 20,000 from the Warsaw ghetto, 6,500 from the Bialystok ghetto, and roughly 4,000 deported between November 1943 and May 1944 from other labor camps.

At least 17,500 came from other European countries: 8,500 from Slovakia; 3,000 from Bohemia and Moravia; 3,000 from Germany and Austria; 2,000 from France, Holland and Greece; and 1,000 Jews from countries other than Poland transferred to Majdanek after November 3, 1943.

The SS killed tens of thousands of Jews at Majdanek. . . .

Next to Jews, Poles represented the largest minority in the camp. In mid-October 1942, out of a total of 9,519 registered prisoners in the camp, 7,468 were Jews (78.45%) and 1,884 were non-Jewish Poles (19.79%). In August 1943, there were 16,206 prisoners in the main camp: 9,105 were Jews (56.18%); and 3,893 (24.02%) were Poles. Other prisoners at Majdanek included Germans, Austrians, Czechs, Ukrainians, Soviet prisoners of war and Soviet civilians, and a handful of others. . . .
Also:
The total number of prisoners to go through the Majdanek main camp has not yet been recalculated consistent with the latest research. The number of deaths is now estimated at between 80,000 and 110,000 for the main camp alone.
There's nothing in the USHMM article that supports your lie that the map is drawn to suggest 1.4 million victims.
David wrote:More to the point they were people coming into the camp would pass.
A few 100 m away but so what? How many corpses are said to have been cremated at that site? When? During arrivals?
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Re: Burning pits at the arrival

Post by David » Tue May 10, 2016 5:23 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
David wrote:The point is that your pretend location of the huge burning pits makes no sense.
Whatever you think makes sense or not, the location is documented.

Writing "makes no sense" is a lot easier than explaining the documentation, telling why it makes no sense, and accounting for it.

7 years ago you would have been lecturing us that the 360,000 figure of dead was "well documented."
In 1947 you would have lectured us all on how the 1,400,000 figure was "well-documented."
Try using some common sense for a change?

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Re: Burning pits at the arrival

Post by David » Tue May 10, 2016 5:30 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
David wrote:bigger than a barracks building ...suitable for tales of 1.4 million people being killed but ridiculous given the Revised new figures of Majdanek.
Your stupidity now has you concluding what occurred at the camp based on a map used on the popular, high level part of the USHMM's website. Maps are representations and scale is important, so is intent.

You have it bassackwards. The scale of the map makes sense IF you are promoting the lie that
1.4 million people were killed at Majdanek.