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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by placid » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:23 am

Poodle wrote:
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Poodle wrote:NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't give her quantum theory. Her head will explode.


What am I saying?

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Quan ... nN0MnXFJGM

Read it, placid. READ IT ALL!
Know it all already..
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Poodle » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:32 am

OK - done. Much drier than quantum physics, and far less likely.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by placid » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:38 am

Poodle wrote:OK - done. Much drier than quantum physics, and far less likely.
The proof is in the apricot pudding.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Nikki Nyx » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:44 pm

Poodle wrote:
placid wrote:
Poodle wrote:NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't give her quantum theory. Her head will explode.

What am I saying?
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Quan ... nN0MnXFJGM
Read it, placid. READ IT ALL!
Know it all already..
:shock:
:P
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I feel like the fact that my WikiLoops always end up in quantum theory sort of proves quantum theory. :mrgreen:
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by SteveKlinko » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:25 pm

placid wrote:Preoccupation with the wrong ''I'' is the cause of all your confusion and misery. Misery loves company. It's rife on this forum.


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The form does not exist separate from the statue. The stone is the form, the form is the stone. The form may change, but the essence remains the same. The stone and the form, the unchanging and changing, are but two conceptual ends of One Awareness.

You are not the form, you are the Awareness of form which is and of itself formless. Identification with the form is what Mind does. Mind is nothing more then the mistaking of images on the screen of Awareness for reality. The Screen and the image projected are inseparably One. One is simply dreaming it is the form. Form is a finite experience of infinite potential here now experiencing the awareness of itself as and through form.

Awakened awareness (what is, absolute reality, God consciousness, atoms and sub-atomic particles, label, etc) energetically permeates everything, including the body-mind action figure, thereby enabling the body-mind action figure to sense and believe ''I am aware'' ''I am my name and form”, ''I have a life'' , ''I know failure and success'', ''I experience joy and sorrow'' , ''I am real, not imaginary'' ,

Such is the creation and transformation of individual body-mind into a conditioned personal identity...albeit illusory.


1 Is the Absolute
2 is Consciousness
3 is Space."


1 Is Dreamless sleep,
2 is the waking state,
3 is the dream state.

You've never not been here- there is only here. This is it.
What is the correct "I"?

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Gord » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:20 am

SteveKlinko wrote:
placid wrote:*b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b*!
What is the correct "I"?
There is no I in placid. :heh:
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Re: Miss-identified.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by mirror93 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:46 pm

I also have been folowing philosophyforum.org. as daramantus posted here another day, and I'm starting to think placid is not a woman but a man. This {!#%@} clown probably has another account called 'your construct' with similar stupid ideas "you are god" "you are one with everyone" "you are omniscient" "you are not the observer", and this one idiot, is a man
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Re: Miss-identified.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by mirror93 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:11 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote:
...researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science have now conducted a highly controlled experiment demonstrating how a beam of electrons is affected by the act of being observed. The experiment revealed that the greater the amount of "watching," the greater the observer's influence on what actually takes place.
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that's absolutely false. No such experiment is "affected" by ANY observers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfSm6o-KlQ
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:58 pm

mirror93 wrote: I'm starting to think placid is not a woman but a man.
Placid did say he was a shepherd on the Isle of Skye. I also think he was male.

However once Confidencia and Gustaave were both banned, Placid put on a brave face for a couple of days, posting gibberish and then left the forum. I think that will be the end of the non-duality spamming on the forum, for a while.

Apart from Gustaave, I'm pretty sure they were all connected through an Ashram in the north of England.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Poodle » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:10 am

A shepherd? With those horrible debilitating back problems? Hmmmmm! I'm not at all convinced Placid has ever been on Skye, let alone herding sheep there. The Winter Olympics are over now and there's no sign of her (I'm not convinced about it being male), so I think that was just another get-out tale, much like going to Norway, as the floor was being wiped with her at regular intervals again. I cannot say that possibility bothers me one iota.
Then again, if you take 'Baa' to mean yes, then there's a captive audience for her drivel.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Matthew Ellard » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:17 am

I must admit Placid calling him or herself a shepherd, may have been a Jesus reference, with us as the flock.

Somewhere in the Placid's early posts, he or she posted a photo of Christmas decoration, he or she had made. However I didn't see any hands to determine sex.

It does seem to me that all the non-dualism teachers or gurus are male, and Placid did think he or she was a guru.

Thankfully, it doesn't really matter anymore.
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Nikki Nyx » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:50 pm

mirror93 wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
...researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science have now conducted a highly controlled experiment demonstrating how a beam of electrons is affected by the act of being observed. The experiment revealed that the greater the amount of "watching," the greater the observer's influence on what actually takes place.
that's absolutely false. No such experiment is "affected" by ANY observers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfSm6o-KlQ
Sorry, but are you claiming that Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is BS? If so, your video doesn't support it; the narrator showed that even non-conscious devices "observing" the process changed the outcome. Or am I misunderstanding your post?
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Re: Miss-identified.

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Nikki Nyx wrote:
mirror93 wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
...researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science have now conducted a highly controlled experiment demonstrating how a beam of electrons is affected by the act of being observed. The experiment revealed that the greater the amount of "watching," the greater the observer's influence on what actually takes place.
that's absolutely false. No such experiment is "affected" by ANY observers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfSm6o-KlQ
Sorry, but are you claiming that Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is BS? If so, your video doesn't support it; the narrator showed that even non-conscious devices "observing" the process changed the outcome. Or am I misunderstanding your post?
I'm saying that consciousness IS NOT needed for any of the experiments. And it's a measurement device, < you dont need to add "non-conscious", it's just a machine making the measurement. Because saying "non-conscious" feels like this machine can be conscious but it's just "non-conscious" now. Like, a person who was conscious and is now "non-conscious".
What I'm saying is exactly that, at 2:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfSm6o-KlQ
"This lead us to the conclusion that there really isn't anything special about conscious observers in quantum mechanics."
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Poodle » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:15 pm

I don't think that there's any point of contention. The video makes it clear that the act of observation collapses the system. It doesn't matter if the observation is human or automatic - if something's looking at the event as it happens, it's one slit and one slit only. I thought that had always been understood. At least, I thought I thought that.
(In Placid's absence, let me make it clear that you are the particle and the particle is you within the Pleroma).

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Monster » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:03 pm

placid wrote: That which is known is unknowable.
"If you know something, you can't know something." placid, that is just plain dumb.
Listening twice as much as you speak is a sign of wisdom.

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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Nikki Nyx » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:43 pm

mirror93 wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
mirror93 wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
...researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science have now conducted a highly controlled experiment demonstrating how a beam of electrons is affected by the act of being observed. The experiment revealed that the greater the amount of "watching," the greater the observer's influence on what actually takes place.
that's absolutely false. No such experiment is "affected" by ANY observers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfSm6o-KlQ
Sorry, but are you claiming that Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is BS? If so, your video doesn't support it; the narrator showed that even non-conscious devices "observing" the process changed the outcome. Or am I misunderstanding your post?
I'm saying that consciousness IS NOT needed for any of the experiments.
I never said consciousness was needed. :blink: And how did "consciousness is not needed" lead you to , "No such experiment is 'affected' by ANY observers?" :blink: :blink: Because that can't be interpreted except as an argument against Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
mirror93 wrote:And it's a measurement device, < you dont need to add "non-conscious", it's just a machine making the measurement. Because saying "non-conscious" feels like this machine can be conscious but it's just "non-conscious" now. Like, a person who was conscious and is now "non-conscious".
I didn't claim or even imply that a measuring device has the potential for self-awareness. I merely used the term "non-conscious" to make the point that the act of observation itself is the factor affecting the outcome, that self-awareness is not a factor.
mirror93 wrote:What I'm saying is exactly that, at 2:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfSm6o-KlQ
"This lead us to the conclusion that there really isn't anything special about conscious observers in quantum mechanics."
Ok, but your original post didn't say that; it specifically said that NO observers affect the outcome. Clearly, they do, regardless of whether the observers possess self-awareness.

So, I have to say that this exchange baffles me. It seems as if we're in agreement that any act of observation affects the outcome, yes? So, I'm confused by why you initially said that observers do NOT affect the outcome. Also, I have no idea why you assumed I was referring solely to human observers, and was implying that machines have the potential for self-awareness when I never said either of those things. Or even implied them.
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by Gord » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:42 pm

placid wrote:I don't exist
Relevant comic: http://assets.amuniversal.com/1faafcc0e ... 5056a9545d
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by mirror93 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:05 pm

Gord wrote:
placid wrote:I don't exist
Relevant comic: http://assets.amuniversal.com/1faafcc0e ... 5056a9545d
there is no internet, no you vs me , no real placid, you don't exist separate from placid, we are all interconnected through the quantum placidness
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by mirror93 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:59 am

placid wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:49 pm
Poodle wrote:No, you misunderstand, placid ...
This is what you wrote ...
placid wrote:... Matt, you once asked me to explain what I am talking about, maybe put it down on paper as a verifiable theory that we can all agree on...so in this response to you, I will attempt to do just that ...
... and then you went on and on and didn't do it. I don't think you understand what 'explain' means. I'm not totally convinced that you know what anything at all means, as your arguments and responses are all identical and contentless.
So stop asking for evidence then, simple isn't it. Stop projecting your own BS at imagined other people ..you have no proof this one here exists, aka ''other''....you only know you exist. Stop asking for proof of yourself you fool.

And stop putting other people down that only exist in your own imagination, put yourself down first, and then all this crappy arguing madness will stop.

The thing is you can't do that cause the ego loves the battle, it loves getting down and dirty ..it rather enjoys it. Without me there is no you.

That's funny, you accuse this one here of identical posts, well take a look at Matts replies to people...all identical, don't see you ticking him off for posting identicals. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Does Matt not understand playing with a memory is like shagging the dead.

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Can't we all say that we all exist even if Placid is not physically around us? As she keeps spamming we all can only exists when she is around :lol:
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by mirror93 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:27 pm

placid wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:49 pm
Poodle wrote:No, you misunderstand, placid ...
This is what you wrote ...
placid wrote:... Matt, you once asked me to explain what I am talking about, maybe put it down on paper as a verifiable theory that we can all agree on...so in this response to you, I will attempt to do just that ...
... and then you went on and on and didn't do it. I don't think you understand what 'explain' means. I'm not totally convinced that you know what anything at all means, as your arguments and responses are all identical and contentless.
So stop asking for evidence then, simple isn't it. Stop projecting your own BS at imagined other people ..you have no proof this one here exists, aka ''other''....you only know you exist. Stop asking for proof of yourself you fool.

And stop putting other people down that only exist in your own imagination, put yourself down first, and then all this crappy arguing madness will stop.

The thing is you can't do that cause the ego loves the battle, it loves getting down and dirty ..it rather enjoys it. Without me there is no you.

That's funny, you accuse this one here of identical posts, well take a look at Matts replies to people...all identical, don't see you ticking him off for posting identicals. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Does Matt not understand playing with a memory is like shagging the dead.

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So, according to you, if a pedophile is sharing pedo content on the internet online, FBI should do nothing because that person is a holographic image of dream person dreamed by your imageless in-finity goddess-being of no-thing, its actions only exists in FBI's imagination, right? Nothing bad about it? Right? Everything about it just happens and tomorrow will be forgotten??
Tell us more about it
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Re: Miss-identified.

Post by mirror93 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:37 pm

placid wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:29 pm
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placid wrote:what do you want from me?
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You are so utterly alone Placid, that you want our attention to validate your existence.
You seem to be a very boring, TOXIC, COWARD, tedious, dull, monotonous; repetitive; unimaginative, uneventful, characterless, featureless, colorless, lifeless, passionless, unspirited, insipid, uninteresting, unexciting, uninspiring, unstimulating, unoriginal, dry as dust, wishy-washy, gray, mechanical, mind-numbing, tiring, bog-standard, nothing to write and self-absorbed egostistical frustrated person, so I doubt you have friends in real life, you must be alone.
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