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Post by ElectricMonk » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:28 am

It has always been America's goal to further its interests any possibly way, especially economically. But so far, presidents have been smart in putting on the (often flimsy) disguise of Fighting Communism / Foreign Aid / Global Free Trade to hide the fact that they made the IMF and World Bank hand out huge loans so that countries could buy US goods. Or they supported dictators and monarchies (House of Saud etc.) militarily if in return they spend most of their wealth from natural resources on letting US companies build their cities and buy US arms.
All these were (and are) America first policies, but at least they pretended to benefit the other party, too (which they often did, albeit to a very minor degree).

By stating openly that the US only does business for its own enrichment, he robs his negotiators of a useful pretence and forces trading partners to consider only their own benefit, too.
It's too bad that Trump's businesses have always been zero-sum games and mostly one-time transactions.

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Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:06 am

One of Trump's first acts as President was to have the Oval Office redecorated with gold curtains.

What is it with despots and gold, anyway?
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Post by ElectricMonk » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:13 am

Pyrrho wrote:One of Trump's first acts as President was to have the Oval Office redecorated with gold curtains.

What is it with despots and gold, anyway?
Well, if you're advertising that you run a brothel in the White House, you might as well make it classy...


I think it is something Trump read in some self-help book about creating in others the impression of power and wealth - which in the case of the Oval Office is of course ludicrous.
Mostly, I think he needs to reassure himself of his worth by being surrounded by shiny things.

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Post by Gord » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:31 am

ElectricMonk wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:One of Trump's first acts as President was to have the Oval Office redecorated with gold curtains.

What is it with despots and gold, anyway?
Well, if you're advertising that you run a brothel in the White House, you might as well make it classy...


I think it is something Trump read in some self-help book about creating in others the impression of power and wealth - which in the case of the Oval Office is of course ludicrous.
Mostly, I think he needs to reassure himself of his worth by being surrounded by shiny things.
He wanted the curtains to match the rug.
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...and he can't really stick any big fat frippery on his flippers without drawing attention to the small-boned anatomy...
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:19 pm

It is a most peculiar situation that #nevertrumpers, with whom I agree on very little, consistently deliver IMO more trenchant, funnier, and more insightful material - full of righteous indignation and cutting to the core - on their nemesis than do the Democratic opposition. I think it is because the #nevertrumpers have a world-view and perspective and are not merely a donations-receiving electoral machine.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:19 pm

Gord wrote:He wanted the curtains to match the rug.
Perfect.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:26 pm

Jeff_36 wrote:Still gold

[ytube][/ytube]

In case any of you are unwilling to watch, I have transcribed the contents of the vid. This man is POTUS right now....... I am still shocked.
"You know what irks me... look, having nuclear... my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, doctor John Trump, at MIT -- good, good genes... very good genes, okay, very smart... the Wharton school of finance, very good, very smart... you know IF YOU'RE a conservative republican... IF I WERE A LIBERAL, if like... OKAY, if I ran as a liberal democrat they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - IT'S TRUE! - but when you're a conservative republican they try... -- oh, do they do a number -- that's why I always start off -- went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fort.. you know I have to give, like, my credentials all the time -- cause we're at a little disadvantaged... but -- you look at the nuclear... the thing that REALLY BOTHERS me... it would have been so easy -- and it's not as as important as these lives are... NUCLEAR IS SO POWERFUL! - my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago -- the power... and that was 35 years ago... he would explain, the power of what's going to happen AND HE WAS RIGHT! -- who would have THOUGHT? -- but, when you look at what's going on with the, eh, four prisoners -- now, it used to be THREE, now it's FOUR, but when it was three -- AND EVEN NOW -- I would have said 'it's all in the messenger, FELLAS' - and it is fellas because you know, they don't -- they haven't figured out that the women are smarter right now than the men so, you know, it's gonna take em about another 150 years -- BUT the PERSIANS are great negotiators -- the IRANIANS are great negoshi... so, and they they just killed -- they just killed us -- this is horrible -- but I would have said at the beginning: 'FELLAS, you gotta let our prisoners go' -- 'it's good for...' 'look, you don't need 'em, you don't want 'em'... it would send a great signal to the United States and it would make the rest of it easier... NOTHING."
A powerful parody. Better than the one I saw and described last night, the armed forces ball parody. The guy in the video looks and sounds just like the stand-in at the armed forces ball, though.
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Post by gorgeous » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:10 pm

Melania speaks 5 languages...how many do you speak? People noticed Trump spent little attention to her thru out....I felt sorry for her...he should have escorted her out of the cars, looked at her when he danced, then pay attention to the crowds...
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:26 pm

Yes, Trump bragged that his Cabinet members have the highest collective IQ in history. Indeed:

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:27 pm

gorgeous wrote:. . . Trump spent little attention to her thru out....I felt sorry for her . . .
If this fact surprises you, you're in worse shape than I thought.
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“My past statements made over five years ago about abolishing the Department of Energy do not reflect my current thinking,” Perry said. “In fact, after being briefed on so many of the vital functions of the Department of Energy, I regret recommending its elimination.”
-Rick Perry, yesterday

It says it all about a man who, just to get elected, will demand the abolishing of a government agency he doesn't even know the function of.
And about the rest of the GOP that they haven't called him out on it.

Why such a vital department should be headed by a partisan nominee at all is beyond my comprehension.

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
gorgeous wrote:. . . Trump spent little attention to her thru out....I felt sorry for her . . .
If this fact surprises you, you're in worse shape than I thought.
Well, he's shown the tendency to keep trading in trophy wives.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:47 pm

The women's protest in Chicago is going to be yuuuuge. I live 7 miles from the march/rally site and already early this morning my neighborhood was packed with people carrying signs on their way to the Red Line to get downtown. Organizers expected 50,000 people but it seems that will be exceeded by a long shot.
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Meanwhile our new god-emperor is going to attempt to win hearts and minds with a visit to CIA HQ this afternoon :lol:

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:12 pm

UPDATE:
BREAKING Crowd at #womensmarchCHI so large that march canceled for safety. People will stay and make voices heard at rally, organizers said.
Tribune says crowd is about 150,000. Organizers not prepared for such a big crowd.

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People still streaming through my neighborhood, carrying all sorts of signs with cuss words and not, toward public transportation. DJT is reviled in Chicago, by and large. This is nice and all but is there a plan other than rallying to defeat this maniac and the party he crawled from?
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Post by Xcalibur » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:43 pm

It's going down bigly in Philly as well. Nobody's put out any numbers other than to say "10s of thousands".

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The cry-baby be whining about this for 4 years.
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Clearly, the clock was rigged. :roll:
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(And the herders clumped them together too tightly instead of letting them spread out a bit...)
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Post by Xcalibur » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:46 pm

Well, his speech at the CIA was... surreal, dishonest, meandering and self-serving. SMH in disbelief.

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He went into why he "just looooves golden mattresses - bigly!"?
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Offtopic - He's been wearing that same suit and/or tie for at least three years now? :blink:

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scrmbldggs wrote:Offtopic - He's been wearing that same suit and/or tie for at least three years now? :blink:

[ytube][/ytube]
Yuge red ties are his thing now. Y'know, like to Russia.

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:13 pm

Josh Marshall has posted some of Trump's gracious, thoughtful and scholarly, forward-looking CIA speech, replete with deep insights into the world situation and America's international role:
I am so behind you and I know maybe sometimes you haven't gotten the backing that you've wanted and you're going to get so much backing. Maybe you'll say, 'don't give us so much backing. Mr. President, please, we don't need that much backing,' But you're going to have that, and I think everybody in this room knows it. . . .

I met him and I said, he is so good. Number one in his class at West Point. I know a lot about West Point, and I'm a person that very strongly believes in academics. In fact, every time I say I had an uncle who was a great professor at M.I.T. for 35 years, who did a fantastic job in so many ways. He was an academic genius, and then they say, there's Donald Trump, an intellectual, trust me, I'm like a smart person. . . .

When I was young and I feel young, I feel like I'm 30, 35, 39, somebody said, 'Are you young? I said, 'I think I'm young.' You know, I was stopping when we were in the final month of the campaign, four stops, five stops, seven stops. Speeches, speeches, in front of 25,000, 35,000 people, 15,000, 19,000, from stop to stop. I feel young. When I was young, we were always winning things in this country. Would win with trade. Would win with wars. And at a certain age, I remember hearing from one of my instructors the United States has never lost a war. And then after that, it's like, we haven't won anything. . . .

Probably almost everybody in this room voted for me but I will not ask you to raise your hands if you did but I guarantee a big portion because we're all on the same wavelength. . . .

I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on Earth. And they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community. And I just want to let you know, the reason you're the number one stop is exactly the opposite," Trump said. "We did a thing yesterday at the speech and everybody like the speech? But we had a massive field of people. You saw that. Packed. I get up this morning, I turn on one of the networks, and they show an empty field. I'm like, wait a minute. I made a speech. I looked out, the field was, it looked like a million, million and a half people.
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:17 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:The cry-baby be whining about this for 4 years.
The wailing hath commenced. (Great piece by Josh Marshall, IMO, simple and killer.)
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Gord wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Offtopic - He's been wearing that same suit and/or tie for at least three years now? :blink:

[ytube][/ytube]
Yuge red ties are his thing now. Y'know, like to Russia.

Seems it's the magical wand that makes the past disappear...
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:17 am

I think it's fairly well known that Trumpy's red tie thing is an elaborate compensatory scheme to make up for his testosterone deficit, a deficit signaled by his tiny hand size. Consider the mandrill: The higher ranking, more dominant mandrills have very vibrant red faces. In the apes, manufacture of red pigment is effected by testosterone - and the display of red shows off the dominant male's bounty of male hormone. With a surfeit of testosterone, red mandrills lord it over their competitors and females apes:
Mandrills are extremely colorful, perhaps more so than any other mammal. They are easily identifiable by the blue and red skin on their faces and their brightly hued rumps. These distinctive colors become brighter when the animal is excited.
Trump's weak testosterone results in an off-red, orangish hue for which he has tried making up by adopting the cliched red power tie, a strip of cloth he ties around his neck to ape the narrow vertical band of red characteristic of the mandrill:

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Not subtle but apparently effective with suckers.
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A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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LOL

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:lol: ...and yet, I noticed he mentioned his university, "...flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge..." during the inaugural speech in which - I think - he promised to undo the American way and system... :purplex:
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DJT:
there's Donald Trump, an intellectual, trust me, I'm like a smart person. . . .
Hmm, so what's next, he's gonna hire squads of "academicals" to ghost write books for him a la Elena Ceausescu? :lol:

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scrmbldggs wrote::lol: ...and yet, I noticed he mentioned his university, "...flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge..." during the inaugural speech in which - I think - he promised to undo the American way and system... :purplex:
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Yes, it's quite ironic that he mentioned young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge....he's paying off those students now.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
Longerich: Himmler

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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:56 am

His first act was to sign an order that, in essence, makes mortgages more costly to middle class home buyers. Make America pay again.
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Yes, he wanted to build a stronger middle class, right? Those poor forgotten schlubs that were so badly abused....well, goodbye home ownership, that bedrock of the American Dream.
A sober appraisal would put Himmler himself in the racially average band, or to some extent even below it: his face was round rather than oval, his nose more broad than slim, his normal bearing more ‘sagging’ than erect...
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Post by Statistical Mechanic » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:11 am

Tonight's Tribune headline:
Thousands march through Loop as part of Women's March after rally draws 250,000
A quarter of a million in Chicago. That is actually impressive.

The Washington rally size will keep Sean Spicer busy spinning tales: "It Sure Looks Like More People Showed Up For The Women’s March Than Inauguration".
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