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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by TJrandom » Tue May 14, 2019 8:18 am

Our TV news programs are reporting that Trump's approval rating topped 50%, but gingerly rooting around I find so evidence of that. Maybe that was just among red hatters.. haters? :mrgreen:

Anyone have a recent count?

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by OutOfBreath » Tue May 14, 2019 8:37 am

TJrandom wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 8:18 am
Our TV news programs are reporting that Trump's approval rating topped 50%, but gingerly rooting around I find so evidence of that. Maybe that was just among red hatters.. haters? :mrgreen:

Anyone have a recent count?
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/tru ... eekly.aspx

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by Gord » Tue May 14, 2019 8:44 am

I always go here for my Trump approval ratings: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

Usually it's just after I google "Is trump in jail yet": https://www.google.com/search?q=is+trum ... e&ie=UTF-8 (So far, no, he's not.)
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by Gord » Tue May 14, 2019 8:57 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47559410
...Manafort's legal team had previously said he suffered from debilitating foot pain resulting from gout as a result of his incarceration.
How the hell do you get gout as a result of being incarcerated??? Are they feeding prisoners a lot of organ meats or something?
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Post by ElectricMonk » Tue May 14, 2019 9:04 am

Gord wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 8:44 am
I always go here for my Trump approval ratings: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

Usually it's just after I google "Is trump in jail yet": https://www.google.com/search?q=is+trum ... e&ie=UTF-8 (So far, no, he's not.)
I got a Google Alert for "Trump being whipped naked through the streets of New York".

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by TJrandom » Tue May 14, 2019 9:00 pm

Thanks guys... I knew our TV news was being distorted by Trumpists... fake news! But even between 42 and 46 is depressing. I've bookmarked them, just in case I get into a fit of happiness.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by Gord » Mon May 20, 2019 2:59 am

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics ... index.html
Larry Lindsey, the national economic council director under former President George W. Bush, delivered a presentation on US-China trade talks to senior House Republicans on Tuesday and said that as part of his analysis of the talks he enlisted the services of two psychiatrists to analyze President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping, according to two sources.

In that analysis, Trump was rated as a "10-out-of-10 narcissist" who doesn't have the capacity for long-term strategic ideals or goals, which Lindsey attributed to Trump's upbringing....
On the one hand, I believe Trump could be a "10-out-of-10 narcissist". On the other hand, I don't believe for a second that Lindsey "enlisted the services of two psychiatrists" to do anything.

Still a funny story, though. :heh:
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by TJrandom » Mon May 20, 2019 3:18 am

I’ll give him cover... I was asleep and dreaming, but I vaguely recall him asking me.

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Post by scrmbldggs » Mon May 20, 2019 8:06 am

...and to think that thing has become the welcomed tool of a sociopathic party...
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Post by scrmbldggs » Tue May 21, 2019 7:37 am

Seems Rump's entire defense is "such rotten krap as mine has never happened before, therefore no precedent (he lernt a new word!) - therefore it cannot be investigated and/or lead to conviction". :roll:
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by MikeN » Tue May 21, 2019 3:17 pm

Amash never quotes any misrepresentation by Barr. I suspect Amash is motivated by his investments in a Chinese firm whose business is in trouble now.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by ElectricMonk » Tue May 21, 2019 3:33 pm

MikeN wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 3:17 pm
Amash never quotes any misrepresentation by Barr. I suspect Amash is motivated by his investments in a Chinese firm whose business is in trouble now.
Interesting that this is the right-wing attack angle here.

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by Gord » Fri May 24, 2019 6:30 am

MikeN wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 3:17 pm
...I suspect Amash is motivated by his investments in a Chinese firm whose business is in trouble now.
:laff:
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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri May 24, 2019 6:40 am

Don't laff, that failure is deadly serious to McConnell. :-P
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Post by ElectricMonk » Fri May 24, 2019 6:54 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
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Don't laff, that failure is deadly serious to McConnell. :-P
He is getting a Russian buy-out for his next election, thanks to cancelled sanctions.

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri May 24, 2019 11:23 am

Ha, I didn't know he's Austrian. :?
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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri May 24, 2019 11:41 am

Bagmen :heh: ... Ain't Graham a partner, too?
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Post by TJrandom » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:32 am

Ah, an obvious candidate for Secretary of Education… :roll:

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TJrandom wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:32 am
Ah, an obvious candidate for Secretary of Education… :roll:
I think I have a better one here: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/catholic-s ... -1.4447488

Wait, this news article is better: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 319864001/

...'cause is says he had a service dog with him. I'm afraid to know why.
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Gord wrote:
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...'cause is says he had a service dog with him. I'm afraid to know why.
:Shudder:
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by scrmbldggs » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:48 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:35 pm
Gord wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:43 am

...'cause is says he had a service dog with him. I'm afraid to know why.
:Shudder:
:Thudder:?
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by MikeN » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:03 am

That Russian Manafort was giving polling data to, it turns out he was a State Department CI.

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Link, please.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by TJrandom » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:43 am

Gord wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:43 am
TJrandom wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:32 am
Ah, an obvious candidate for Secretary of Education… :roll:
I think I have a better one here: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/catholic-s ... -1.4447488

Wait, this news article is better: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 319864001/

...'cause is says he had a service dog with him. I'm afraid to know why.
He shudda’ had some students with him - so he could claim it was for education.

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:32 pm

Placing blame (and gory glory) squarely where it belongs... https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/wat ... 1462085893
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Post by MikeN » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:33 pm

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... department

That Ukraine peace plan that was delivered to Trump, had also been delivered to Obama, but Mueller left that out of the report.

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:30 pm

What are you hoping to achieve? Afraid criminal conspiracy isn't really off the table? :paper:


But much more important, he hasn't been cleared of obstruction of justice. And a whole array of other offenses...
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Post by scrmbldggs » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:40 am

Looks like they trotted out the interns to greet the returning...um... hero. Couldn't find anyone else to fawn over it on a Friday afternoon? :lol:
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (tool Trump thread)

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What are you hoping to achieve? Afraid criminal conspiracy isn't really off the table? :paper:


But much more important, he hasn't been cleared of obstruction of justice. And a whole array of other offenses...
Neither you nor I have been cleared of obstruction of justice charges and a whole array of other offenses, either, scrmbldggs, but in the US system we are presumed to be innocent until proven otherwise.
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Are you under investigation, Tom?
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scrmbldggs wrote:
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Are you under investigation, Tom?
I'm ignorant and apathetic about that.

I don't know and I don't care.
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Tom Palven wrote:
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Are you under investigation, Tom?
I'm ignorant and apathetic about that.

I don't know and I don't care.
Well, as long as the unindicted co-conspirator/his administration don't have you in their cross hairs. Otherwise you'd be guilty until (maybe) proven innocent. They seem to be calling for lock them up, ask questions later...
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (fool Trump thread)

Post by scrmbldggs » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:29 pm

How he tried to mess with Pootie. And got screwed by winning what he never really wanted...


Spoiler:


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Nu-UH! After 2½ years we’ve seen enough...
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Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:44 pm

But who cares, Trumplings love it and select nonprofits (and others) seem to are making big bucks. 8-)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-a-humanitarian-crisis-of-trumps-making/2019/06/24/431262f8-96c3-11e9-8d0a-5edd7e2025b1_story.html?noredirect=on wrote:
“The conditions within which they are held could be compared to torture facilities,”...

Trump and Vice President Pence responded with lies (blaming the Obama administration), deflection (blaming Democrats in Congress) and lots of oleaginous faux concern...A president who panders to his base by seizing billions of dollars from other programs to build a “big, beautiful wall” also panders to his base by cruelly treating brown-skinned migrant children like subhumans.
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Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:53 pm

...remember those sick and dying Syrian children after the gas attack? He (they) didn't really care about them. Cocked and loafed, he just wanted to go "BOOM!" with his new toys. And impress his "friends". While eating beautiful chocolate cake...
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