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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:01 pm

my guess is everyone is a/an? eugenicist - i.e. forbidden planet / monsters of the id .

issue ? this ties in with everything - prisons filled with crazy people forced to take meds , who make everyone else in the prison crazy to. same with the cities .
shrinks / professional eugenicists drugging everybody .
a vicious circle - amazing this country exists .

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You need to structure your thinking. Start by looking each word up in the dictionary.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:18 pm

too lazy , too old -

realize it needs explaining , but

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psychiatry is a scam wrote:
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too lazy , too old -

realize it needs explaining , but

need to push my papers
Ha, ha===>so you ADMIT you post only for yourself............................. Carry On.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:13 pm

I have mentioned it before that it is a waste of ink trying to get the lulz to understand

also mentioned that there are several bots lurking about .
I write for them , they might in maybe a xxx years be able to understand .

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"Waste of Ink xyz"..........you've almost got it.
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
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Ha, ha===>so you ADMIT you post only for yourself............................. Carry On.
Interesting...

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:30 pm

Its what we all do................you know...........one degree or another. pias: just the worst. A failure to be relevant is to EVEN not have any interest in what you post yourself. Kinda like YOU not giving an intro.
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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:45 pm

MikeN wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:19 pm
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:53 pm
Ha, ha===>so you ADMIT you post only for yourself............................. Carry On.
Interesting...
shrinks call it learned helplessness ?
it is difficult to be a light in the darkness - jesus only had to put up with humons for 33 ? years

interesting why ?

back to the topic - any specific info on what he actually used ? or is a noose part of all jail cells ?
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Post by landrew » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:31 am

Every option is questionable. If he was on suicide watch, it failed. If he was taken off suicide watch, it's another lapse of judgment. If there was no camera in the cell, it's an oversight. It was a failure in every case.
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fox-----Dr. Marc Siegel says Epstein’s broken neck bones point to ominous possibility
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gorgeous wrote:
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fox-----Dr. Marc Siegel says Epstein’s broken neck bones point to ominous possibility
Ooh, what's that?
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Post by scrmbldggs » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:40 pm

That^? It's what is commonly known as "Just putting it out there...".
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Post by scrmbldggs » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:42 pm

landrew wrote:
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Every option is questionable. If he was on suicide watch, it failed. If he was taken off suicide watch, it's another lapse of judgment. If there was no camera in the cell, it's an oversight. It was a failure in every case.
Seems cameras within cells aren't allowed by law (privacy issues), but there should be/have been surveillance outside of them.
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Post by TJrandom » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:11 pm

I didn’t know that there were cellular cameras - that would be serious miniaturization. :roll:

But I hardly see it as a privacy issue - and assume those rights are waived by virtue of being incarcerated.

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:hmm: Who'd wanna watch something hairy, like someone using those metal toilets? :pardon:
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scrmbldggs wrote:
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:hmm: Who'd wanna watch something hairy, like someone using those metal toilets? :pardon:
All in a days work...

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TJrandom wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:24 pm
scrmbldggs wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:16 pm
:hmm: Who'd wanna watch something hairy, like someone using those metal toilets? :pardon:
All in a days work...
No different from a paid guard walking by and seeing him on the toilet. Privacy issues are null.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-mystery-questions-1459819 wrote:
The jail does have a video surveillance system, but federal standards don’t allow the use of cameras to monitor areas where prisoners are likely to be undressed unless those cameras are monitored only by staff members of the same gender as the inmates. As a practical matter, that means most federal jails nationwide focus cameras on common areas, rather than cell bunks.

Lindsay Hayes, a nationally recognized expert on suicide prevention behind bars, said that cameras are often ineffective because they require a staff member to be dedicated full time to monitoring the video feed 24 hours a day.

“It only takes three to five minutes for someone to hang themselves,” said Hayes, a project director for the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives. “If no one is watching the screen, then the camera is useless. There are a lot of suicides that just end up being recorded.”
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Surely AI could solve this privacy problem...

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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:50 am

Simplest - no sheets

Remember a video - in solitary confinement, same as je but poor.
Nothing in cell , no clothes , bed,
Guy was mad , no utensils

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Post by gorgeous » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:50 am

fox-------"The hyoid bone in the neck being fractured and other fractures in the neck, make it more likely, and again, this is a percentage call, more likely that it was a homicide than a suicide," Siegel said during an interview on "America's Newsroom."


Siegel said he is still waiting for more information before rendering a final opinion, but expressed suspicion and skepticism about the details surrounding Epstein's death.

"It can either be a suicide or a homicide still... I am now more suspicious than ever that this could be a homicide," he said.

"If someone is attacked, you see signs of the attack on the body... It hasn't been released yet. I'm waiting to see that."
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It's not much of a "suicide watch" if no one is watching.
Mental institutions seem to manage to keep suicidal patients alive without costly resources I believe.

Many law enforcement personnel are fairly hard-boiled (don't know the technical term) so It seems plausible that they may not have cared much about what happened to Epstein.
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TJrandom wrote:
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Surely AI could solve this privacy problem...
Better than training an intern to check the screens once every 5 minutes?
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landrew wrote:
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It's not much of a "suicide watch" if no one is watching.
Mental institutions seem to manage to keep suicidal patients alive without costly resources I believe.
AFAIK, he no longer was on suicide watch. (I think it was said that that lasts usually for around 72 hrs.)
Many law enforcement personnel are fairly hard-boiled (don't know the technical term) so It seems plausible that they may not have cared much about what happened to Epstein.
Could be. But higher-ups should really have stressed the issue with this one...
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The greater loss (besides a human life) is the information Epstein might have been able to provide which could have assisted law enforcement in capturing many other perverted sickos.
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True. But it also was reported that they collected a treasure trove of images and documents from his not so humble abode. There could be something useful in there...
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:hmm: I wonder how far back those records might go...
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:00 pm

They got his chick enabler under their thumb. "If wanted".........which is highly debateable is not already settled........probably more helpful than Epstein himself.

Felony Murder Rule (sic)===interesting in some of its applications as here where a woman could be convicted of molesting young girls...........
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Post by landrew » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:28 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/med ... by-hanging

Ruled a suicide by hanging.
Well, that settles it.
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landrew wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:28 pm
Pyrrho wrote:
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/med ... by-hanging

Ruled a suicide by hanging.
Well, that settles it.
Provisionally, given the available evidence.
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Post by gorgeous » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:36 am

could be lying
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gorgeous wrote:
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could be lying
We generally suspect that of you...

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liar
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gorgeous wrote:
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liar
...got anything else besides that^, "not" and "true"? And no, I don't mean the usual copy pasta edited into unpalatable word salads.
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gorgeous wrote:
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liar
that could be a funny, but I suspect you think that is true. POINT IS: kinda like Trump: "Is he a racist?" And you can slice the baloney to arrive at 15 different shades of meaning but they are all "about" Trump being a racist, enabler, baiter, utilizer or whatever.

Same with too much of what you post G. YOU don't make up an article or link re some para normal claim but you pass it along as if true.....so you are in the lying ballpark, same as Trump.
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