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Better than average ?

Post by Lance Kennedy » Sat May 19, 2018 10:42 pm

Reference, New Scientist, 12 May 2018, page 42

Talk about irrational, non skeptical thinking !

Researchers back in 1965 interviewed 50 people recovering in hospital from serious road accidents, which they had caused due to crappy driving. All of them had a history of crappy driving, including drunk driving, and in 3 cases, their accident caused by their own incompetence caused someone else to die. Yet most of them rated their own driving ability as above average.

The researchers widened their survey to include average drivers who had not caused accidents, and found that this assessment was totally normal. Almost everybody thought they were above average drivers. Later research looked at other human skills such as business leaders and managers. The same thing emerged. Most thought they were above average at their profession.

Rather obviously, this is impossible. Only half a group can be above average. Is this delusion ? According to the psychologists, this is not so. Instead, it is an essential psychological adaptation to life. By thinking we are better, we can cope with the way things evolve.

So, if you think you are above average at what you do, remember that this opinion is mostly wrong.

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Post by Gord » Sun May 20, 2018 12:51 am

Lance Kennedy wrote:Instead, it is an essential psychological adaptation to life.
Meh. I've gotten by without it.
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Post by gorgeous » Sun May 20, 2018 3:20 am

they also likely believed they weren't impaired...liquid confidence ...isn't it? leaders tend to have big egos.....
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun May 20, 2018 3:13 pm

Only above average people respond to polls. Below average people run away.
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Post by Poodle » Sun May 20, 2018 3:16 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Only above average people respond to polls. Below average people run away.
And just how would you know that, bobbo? You can't get info like that from a poll.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun May 20, 2018 3:29 pm

Drones.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun May 20, 2018 3:32 pm

.........actually, there have been "studies" asking groups of people if they would like to take a poll or not with an analysis of all the variables thought relevant. Its one of the characteristics of well constructed polls that you DO NOT slant the poll towards people who want to take them.

Its all an actual science.....but you know........people.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun May 20, 2018 3:32 pm

My statement above however was purely for humor, in the same vein as your own?
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Post by Poodle » Sun May 20, 2018 4:29 pm

Of course for humour, bobbo. Some of my best work is funny.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun May 20, 2018 6:01 pm

EVERYTHING I post is humorous. Very little of it considered funny. Thats a thing about humer.
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Post by Bobbie the Pragmatist » Mon May 21, 2018 4:23 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:My statement above however was... in the same vein as your own?
Your statement was made in vain.

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Post by TJrandom » Tue May 22, 2018 10:40 am

I never thought I was above average at anything - I knew it.

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Post by Gord » Wed May 23, 2018 9:50 am

Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:My statement above however was... in the same vein as your own?
Your statement was made in vain.
What the hell are you? What the hell are you???

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Post by OlegTheBatty » Wed May 23, 2018 6:11 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote: Rather obviously, this is impossible. Only half a group can be above average.
Tsk tsk tskitty tsk.

Group = 11 people.
10 earn $1,000,000.00 per year. 1 earns 10,000.00. Average them. The 10 millionaires are all above average.

A handful of really1 really2 really3 . . . reallyn bad drivers could skew the average sufficiently to produce those polls accurately.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Wed May 23, 2018 8:14 pm

Picky, picky, Oleg.

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Post by TJrandom » Wed May 23, 2018 8:29 pm

Just $10m a year? They must be eating beans....

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu May 24, 2018 12:14 am

Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:My statement above however was... in the same vein as your own?
Your statement was made in vain.
I can see how you might think that, but Poodle and I have continuing positive interactions. Such word play is enjoyable when the alt word actually applies.....otherwise, any random monkey can do it. The lack of imagination is generally evident across the board....or should I say bored??

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Post by Aztexan » Thu May 24, 2018 2:15 am

Gord wrote:
Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:My statement above however was... in the same vein as your own?
Your statement was made in vain.
What the hell are you? What the hell are you???

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Post by Gord » Thu May 24, 2018 2:19 am

Aztexan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:My statement above however was... in the same vein as your own?
Your statement was made in vain.
What the hell are you? What the hell are you???

(Quoting from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es4ja_flD7U )
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Post by Aztexan » Thu May 24, 2018 2:38 am

Do you see them two, too?
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Post by Aztexan » Thu May 24, 2018 2:39 am

What's going on? Forum members are replicating in real time!
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Post by TJrandom » Thu May 24, 2018 3:31 am

It seems that bobbo is trying out a new persona...

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Post by Aztexan » Thu May 24, 2018 3:38 am

Is he getting in touch with his feminine side?
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Post by Gord » Thu May 24, 2018 8:45 pm

I'm seeing double! Four bobbios!
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Post by TJrandom » Thu May 24, 2018 8:59 pm

Jakyll & Hyde... :roll:

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu May 24, 2018 8:59 pm

bobbo is your long time friend.

Bobbie is unknown to me. I don't believe in coincidences until proved as such, so I presume some intentionality in choosing this name? Could be a follower from some other forum, but I've received no "howdies." If an intended doppelganger, I would expect some mocking of my online persona? You know....sentences so long, convoluted, and off topic as to mock this tendency of mine....but not appearing as yet.

Heck of a time to find out that night in Bangkok produced more than a headache?
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