If god was real

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Re: If god was real

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:07 am

gorgeous wrote:variations of each action and thought occur on multiple dimensions...can change the past and future as obe'ers know........


You made this up. That's why you have no evidence to support your hilarious religious claim.

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Re: If god was real

Postby Gord » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:30 am

Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote:
mirror93 wrote:I got some questions here, let's imagine the mythological figure and the whole story of god was real and there was a god and we were him...the One all one


I didn't read every post, but your post's headline is not what you intend. It should be in the next line.

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Re: If god was real

Postby Monster » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:18 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:He changed his mind. I don't see any conundrum at all. So limited in time, space, and causality you hoomans are.

The standard trope is Can God create a Rock he can't lift? This goes to a limitation of language and human cognition: Of Course God can. See?

No.

If a god is omniscient, then he knows everything, including what he's going to do in the future. If he knows what's going to happen in the future, he can't change his mind, and change what he was going to do, thus he's not omnipotent.

If a god is omnipotent, then he can change his mind 10 seconds later from time X, thus, he isn't omniscient at time X. He doesn't know everything, specifically what he was going to do at time X+10s.
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Re: If god was real

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:30 am

Well, I assume he knew he would change his mind. That what omniscient means.

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Re: If god was real

Postby mirror93 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:40 pm

Monster wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:He changed his mind. I don't see any conundrum at all. So limited in time, space, and causality you hoomans are.

The standard trope is Can God create a Rock he can't lift? This goes to a limitation of language and human cognition: Of Course God can. See?

No.

If a god is omniscient, then he knows everything, including what he's going to do in the future. If he knows what's going to happen in the future, he can't change his mind, and change what he was going to do, thus he's not omnipotent.

If a god is omnipotent, then he can change his mind 10 seconds later from time X, thus, he isn't omniscient at time X. He doesn't know everything, specifically what he was going to do at time X+10s.


Please, show the logical flaws about omnipresence

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Re: If god was real

Postby Monster » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:29 pm

mirror93 wrote:
Monster wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:He changed his mind. I don't see any conundrum at all. So limited in time, space, and causality you hoomans are.

The standard trope is Can God create a Rock he can't lift? This goes to a limitation of language and human cognition: Of Course God can. See?

No.

If a god is omniscient, then he knows everything, including what he's going to do in the future. If he knows what's going to happen in the future, he can't change his mind, and change what he was going to do, thus he's not omnipotent.

If a god is omnipotent, then he can change his mind 10 seconds later from time X, thus, he isn't omniscient at time X. He doesn't know everything, specifically what he was going to do at time X+10s.


Please, show the logical flaws about omnipresence

I haven't pondered the logical flaws of omnipresence, other than the fact that if a creature is everywhere, then it must be everything.
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Re: If god was real

Postby OlegTheBatty » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:32 pm

Monster wrote:
mirror93 wrote:
Monster wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:He changed his mind. I don't see any conundrum at all. So limited in time, space, and causality you hoomans are.

The standard trope is Can God create a Rock he can't lift? This goes to a limitation of language and human cognition: Of Course God can. See?

No.

If a god is omniscient, then he knows everything, including what he's going to do in the future. If he knows what's going to happen in the future, he can't change his mind, and change what he was going to do, thus he's not omnipotent.

If a god is omnipotent, then he can change his mind 10 seconds later from time X, thus, he isn't omniscient at time X. He doesn't know everything, specifically what he was going to do at time X+10s.


Please, show the logical flaws about omnipresence

I haven't pondered the logical flaws of omnipresence, other than the fact that if a creature is everywhere, then it must be everything.

Also simultaneously throughout all time. If not, the speed of light limitation for information transfer would {!#%@} him up majorly.
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Re: If god was real

Postby mirror93 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:36 pm

Monster wrote:
mirror93 wrote:
Monster wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:He changed his mind. I don't see any conundrum at all. So limited in time, space, and causality you hoomans are.

The standard trope is Can God create a Rock he can't lift? This goes to a limitation of language and human cognition: Of Course God can. See?

No.

If a god is omniscient, then he knows everything, including what he's going to do in the future. If he knows what's going to happen in the future, he can't change his mind, and change what he was going to do, thus he's not omnipotent.

If a god is omnipotent, then he can change his mind 10 seconds later from time X, thus, he isn't omniscient at time X. He doesn't know everything, specifically what he was going to do at time X+10s.


Please, show the logical flaws about omnipresence

I haven't pondered the logical flaws of omnipresence, other than the fact that if a creature is everywhere, then it must be everything.


if it's a creature it can't be everything. everything means all things; all the things of a group or class. a creature is a thing, therefore it would part of everything, even if it created things that make up everything...it would be apart from everything. therefore, not everything nor everywhere.......therefore, omnipresence is impossible......


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