Best stand-alone evidence?

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby BRoI » Wed May 02, 2018 9:37 pm

The letter was written by Vilma Grunwald only moments before she and her eldest son were forced into a gas chamber at Auschwitz on July 11, 1944.

Originally Vilma was placed into a Czech family camp at Auschwitz with her husband Kurt and her two sons John and Misa. However, shortly after arriving the family was put through the selection process together in front of Dr. Josef Mengele.

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-mothers-letter-written-moments-before-her-death-at-auschwitz-may-be-the-only-of-its-kind-2018-5?r=UK&IR=T


"shortly after arriving" - She was sent to Auschwitz eight month prior to the date of this letter.
Transport Dr, no. 731 (15. 12. 1943, Terezín -> Auschwitz)

https://www.holocaust.cz/en/database-of-victims/victim/91046-vilma-gr-nwaldova/

https://www.geni.com/people/Vilma-Gr%C3%BCnwald/6000000002352102326
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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby BRoI » Wed May 02, 2018 9:41 pm

In the first days of July, camp physician Josef Mengele carried out a “selection” that sent 3,800 young, healthy men and women to other camps. The remaining 7,000 Jews, including women and children, were exterminated in the gas chambers on the nights of July 10-11 and 11-12. Thus was the Familienlager liquidated.

http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/news/the-60th-anniversary-of-the-liquidation-of-the-czech-family-camp-in-auschwitz,372.html
"I believe that when the history of the [Great] war comes to be impartially written, the two greatest results will be the establishment of the national Jewish home and the creation of the League of Nations. The two are not really disconnected. They represent the two great ideas for which we fought and by which we conquered—the ideas of nationalism and internationalism."
- Robert Cecil, 1st Viscount Cecil of Chelwood, March 1923.

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Wed May 02, 2018 10:55 pm

Thank you for the correction.
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:22 pm

Bumping this for my Twitter friends....

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A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:32 pm

I’m bumping this to add this from HC:

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-final-solution-and-german-press-2.html?m=1#_ftn2

I want to go through it later but I need to get some work done.
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:17 pm

A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:20 pm

Bump to make this thread easier to track down...
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:00 am

https://youtu.be/K_I1qgl968M

Can’t claim torture with this one...
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:20 am

Thanks, that's from the Einsatzgruppen: The Death Brigades documentary mentioned in the "Confessions of Nazi crimes by common people?" thread, I did not know it was online, very nice find!
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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:23 am

Thanks, I have it on for white noise while I’m doing stuff. That came on so I wanted to hunt it down.
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:24 am

It’s sad I have something like that on as white noise... :D
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:51 am

Bump
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”

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Re: Best stand-alone evidence?

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:24 pm

Bump
A joke going around Moscow during The Great Terror:

The NKVD knocks on a door.
The inhabitants ask who it is.
“NKVD.”
“You’ve got the wrong apartment. The Communists are upstairs.”


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