But I'll concede that the bird's shape does look a little strange. The argument here is that the wings are thicker near the middle, and taper off near the ends...
They're also slightly swept downward at the ends. This makes their design very aerodynamic.
The documentary also points out that the tail seems a bit strange, since birds tails are not vertical. What purpose could this serve?
They found that it was very aerodynamic, the only thing missing was a rear stabilizing rudder.
And you can clearly see that there's a notch on the bird's tail where such a rudder could have possibly been attached.
Gord wrote:And you can clearly see that there's a notch on the bird's tail where such a rudder could have possibly been attached.
Actually, I can't see that. Where is it?
The bronzed grackle walks with a tall strut that imitates the crow. When turning in flight, its tail changes from horizontal to vertical, hence it is known as keel-tailed.
Pyrrho wrote:I note that the people who made functional model aircraft based on the "fighter jet" artifacts cheated by giving their wings aerodynamic shapes and larger wings.
Giorgio Tsoukalos wrote:They did not add an inch or remove an inch, they just essentially blew the thing into a larger size.
busterggi wrote:Ancient astronauts who taught humans how to pile up rocks - because no human being could have thought of that by hisself.
Pyrrho wrote:BTW, some birds, such as grackles, twist their tail feathers into the vertical position:
Parrot wrote:...why the hell would advanced aliens come down and start messing around with a primitive and awkward building material like stone?
Gord wrote:Pyrrho wrote:BTW, some birds, such as grackles, twist their tail feathers into the vertical position:
Kewl. I googled bird tails to find a bird like that, but I was lazy and gave up after checking one link.Parrot wrote:...why the hell would advanced aliens come down and start messing around with a primitive and awkward building material like stone?
Because ancient aliens had the mentality of five-year-old humans and liked to play with building blocks!
It's all clear to me now! The huge eyes! The little bodies! The mischievous behaviour bordering on mind-boggling lunacy! The focus on pranks involving the bum! Aliens are children!!
And those Bagdad batteries! Why you could almost light an led bulb with only a dozen or so - talk about a power source.
ShadowSot wrote:Anyone remember when the History Channel had good programs on it?
When we compare these with other objects from the same cultures depicting animals, a curious facet of the comparison would be obvious: the other objects are recognizable, rendered usually with a great accuracy and attention to realistic detail.
Another problem, though, will appear and that is the drag which would be created by the back of the nose now positioned in front. But that can be attributed to artistic license.
Gord wrote:Yeah. Those were the days, eh?
If you read my first article analyzing the History Channel show you saw a picture of another object from this collection which was some sort of fish with fins like a shark (6 of them), and a dolphin-like flipper for a tail.
ShadowSot wrote: Some interesting pieces of artwork Here I note the high amount of artistic license given to the eagles.
ShadowSot wrote: Probably worth noting to, if you didn't, the distances of time between the Mayan and Egyptian civilizations.
The Mayans were still going when the Spaniards arrived, the Mayans were certainly not a "Ancient" culture, except maybe simply due to the culture.
OlegTheBatty wrote:While they were building those jets and stacking all those rocks, you'd think the aliens might have dropped a hint or two about the evil spirits who cause diseases, and the benefits of cleanliness in controlling the spread. Simple stuff. ...and the futility of blood letting ... and ... and ...
I need to correct you here. They weren't talking about the Mayans in this episode. The specific people that they mention are the Tolima, who date to 1500 years ago.
Still not contemporary with ancient Egypt though.
Parrot wrote:The author talks about a technology he calls a "Magnetic Field Disruptor" which is supposed to neutralize gravity.
Gord wrote:Parrot wrote:The author talks about a technology he calls a "Magnetic Field Disruptor" which is supposed to neutralize gravity.
But ... but ... but gravity isn't magnetic.
Parrot wrote:But then, I suppose it's possible that the aliens have discovered the Grand Unifying Theory which would say that all the forces in the universe are actually the same force. If that's the case, perhaps they know how to manipulate electromagnetism in order to generate gravity effects.
Just spinning around some Mercury and adding electricity is unlikely to have that effect though.
The spectrum of theories run from the government's denial that UFOs even exist to the notion that they are blood-drinking lizards lurking in space with a plan to herd humans like cattle. They may be aliens from another planet monitoring our potential threat to the galactic community or ambassadors demanding their own embassy before they will share their technology. UFOs might be holographic images from a satanic conspiracy or have an entire culture flourishing deep inside the planet. Or could they be government clones or even the ancient gods?
Whatever the answer, the plethora of theories is, no doubt and in no small part, responsible for the skeptical view of the general public. Add to this the commercial exploitation of the phenomenon and the conditioned stigma of mental imbalance in the believers and you have a credibility gap you could fly a Death Star through.
For those not willing to run the gauntlet and spend untold hours in serious research, there is only perplexity. For those who do invest the time and mental energy required, there is often a never-ending series of paradigm shifts from one theory to the next, often leading to the same perplexity in perpetuity.
There are no guidelines for serious UFO research
but, fortunately, the human mind is very adaptable and can reason its way through almost any enigma. We will approach this particular enigma, and perhaps the one most relevant to the past, present, and future of mankind, with only two suppositions. First, considering the preponderance of evidence available and with the knowledge that this is only a small percentage of the whole, the existence of UFOs in our skies will be considered as a fact. Secondly, logic dictates that, in all probability, only one could be correct or they are all wrong.
Gord wrote:I am available for expert witness testimony, for a small fee.
Bunyip wrote:The first 'God is an alien' story I saw was in 1970 in an old ' Astounding Science Fiction' . 'A Russian scientist' decoded The Book of Ezekiel ,explaining that Ezekiel was actually transported in a space ship. Some years later, a NASA scientist wrote on entire book on the same theme.
Bunyip wrote:A friend and I took the trouble of checking almost every reference in 'Chariots Of The Gods' ,including writing to India for a copy of the book to make;'flying vimanas'.The instructions began "take 2 parts of metal of the monkey,3 parts of metal of the elephant" .Then it became a bit obscure.
Bunyip wrote:Needless to say,not one of Erich's references hold up to examination. It was later shown he deliberately faked some.
You wouldn't be willing to scan a copy of the book and send it to me, would you?
Or is there already a version available online?
Däniken claimed that a non-rusting iron pillar in India was evidence of extraterrestrial influence. Later, Däniken admitted in a Playboy interview that the pillar was actually rusty and man-made, and that as far as supporting his hypotheses goes "we can forget about this iron thing."
The evidence that Däniken has put forward to support his paleo-contact hypotheses can be categorized as follows:
* Artifacts have been found which are alleged to represent a higher technological knowledge than existed at the times when they were manufactured. Däniken maintains that these artifacts have been manufactured either by extraterrestrial visitors, or by humans who obtained the necessary knowledge from them. Such artifacts include the Antikythera mechanism, Stonehenge, the statues of Easter Island, and the Piri Reis map.
* In ancient art throughout the world, themes are observed which can be interpreted to illustrate astronauts, air and space vehicles, non-human but intelligent creatures, and artifacts of a high technology. Däniken also points out details that are similar in the art of unrelated cultures.
* Origins of religions might be a reaction to contact with an alien race by primitive humans. The humans considered the technology of the aliens to be supernatural and the aliens themselves to be gods. According to Däniken, the oral and literal traditions of most religions contain references to visitors from "stars" and vehicles traveling through air and space. These, he says, should be interpreted as literal descriptions which have changed during the passage of time and have become more obscure, rather than as symbolic or mythical fiction. One such is Ezekiel's revelation in the Old Testament, which he interprets as a detailed description of a landing spacecraft.
Parrot wrote:Gord wrote:I am available for expert witness testimony, for a small fee.
How much for an eyewitness account of an alien abduction that involves somebody being impregnated with a human/Sasquatch hybrid baby?
Parrot wrote:I just finished my fourth installment analyzing the Ancient Aliens episode, for those of you who are interested:
The ignorance shown here is nothing short of absolutely astounding. Really, these guys deserve some sort of award for that.
Gord wrote:Hmmm, awards for ignorance, eh? Interesting idea! But can you imagine HOW MANY NOMINATIONS there would be every year?!
Gord wrote:ShadowSot wrote:Anyone remember when the History Channel had good programs on it?
Yeah. Those were the days, eh?
ResidentHazard wrote:Gord wrote:ShadowSot wrote:Anyone remember when the History Channel had good programs on it?
Yeah. Those were the days, eh?
I honestly don't mind these shows (actually, I greatly enjoy UFO stuff cuz it's all sorts of fun), and to be fair, at least the Ancient Aliens shows generally follow traditional History Channel formula.
It's the ever-growing spate of reality shows that I'm tired of seeing. They ought to branch off to a new network called "History Reality" for that stuff, and keep to the classic format for the regular History Channel.
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