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Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:15 am

ok

I ordered a copy of Anthony Beevor's account of the Spanish Civil War at my local Chapters branch. I am not a huge fan of Beevor (I find him to be a relativist, which in any account of WWII can be ammunition for very bad people out there. However, in any account of the Spanish Civil War this is an asset) but I am in the "Spanish Civil War" phase that all history lovers go through at some point.

After a week, I was impatient at the slow pace of the shipping and ordered Hugh Thomas's famous chronicle of the conflict on Amazon. This was a week ago.

Low and behold today both books arrived!

Which one does Jeff_36 read first?

WEIGH IN!!!!!

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Re: Need Advice

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:54 am

Jeff_36 wrote:Which one does Jeff_36 read first?


Well Jeff, I often walk in the front door, from the letter box, with two very exciting books such as German AFV Torsion bar suspension development (Early 1943) and German AFV Torsion bar suspension development (late 1943)

I say to Amanda, my partner "I'm very excited. Which one should I read first?" Amanda will say "Go to your room and knock yourself out" before switching on the TV to watch a repeated episode of "Sex in the City"

I realise that I'm lucky enough just to have a girlfriend! :D

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Re: Need Advice

Postby Jeff_36 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:31 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Well Jeff, I often walk in the front door, from the letter box, with two very exciting books such as German AFV Torsion bar suspension development (Early 1943) and German AFV Torsion bar suspension development (late 1943)


What's the difference?

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Re: Need Advice

Postby Gord » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:48 am

Jeff_36 wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
Well Jeff, I often walk in the front door, from the letter box, with two very exciting books such as German AFV Torsion bar suspension development (Early 1943) and German AFV Torsion bar suspension development (late 1943)


What's the difference?

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Re: Need Advice

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:11 am

Jeff_36 wrote: What's the difference?
Smaller diameter wheels for metal rubber saving meant an adjustment to existing vehicles chassis to incorporate the change in the torsion bars. (Germany was running out of rubber)
torsion bars.jpg

Next week I will thrill you with how the 16 bolt tank wheel for the Panther was modified to 24 bolts and this reduced rubber shredding. :D

( My dad was a train spotter) :lol:
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Re: Need Advice

Postby Lance Kennedy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:01 am

Buy a kindle.

I download books from my living room for a quarter the price, and they arrive within minutes.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:15 am

Lance Kennedy wrote:Buy a kindle. I download books from my living room for a quarter the price, and they arrive within minutes.


These types of books are mostly illustrated books, like a car mechanic's repair book. I look at illustrated books on the history of uniforms because I can sometimes date a photo of a vehicle, by the uniforms people are wearing in the photo.

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Postby Lance Kennedy » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:51 am

In that case, download the kindle app onto your tablet or computer, and download onto that device. A big screen full of colour is the result.

The advantages of the ebook include portability, ultra long battery life (about 2 weeks), and the ability to read under any lighting conditions, from full daylight, to darkness if you have a kindle paperwhite, with its built in light. But you may prefer to read on your other device, if you need colour.

There is work underway to try to develop a colour ebook screen. Possibly end of next year ?
If so, it will be adopted by tablets, smart phones, and computers. The advantages of ultra low power use, and reading in full sunlight are pretty obvious.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:56 am

Lance Kennedy wrote:In that case, download the kindle app onto your tablet or computer, and download onto that device. A big screen full of colour is the result.
I didn't know that. I guess I need to go electronic as my eyes are not as great as they used to be.

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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:59 am

My Hindu Socialist friend P.G. Joshi of 50+ years ago, told a right-wing friend of mine, who was an ardent supporter of Franco (who was still alive at the time—he's still dead now) to read the Hugh Thomas book. My friend (who fell out with me over Trump last year) had read nothing but fascist propaganda. He did read the Thomas book, but (no surprise here), he is still an ardent fan of Franco to this day.

I've had the Thomas book on my to-read list now for over half a century. Still haven't gotten around to it. Hemingway turned me off with his annoying translated-Spanish (Spanglish?) prose in "For Whom the Bell Tolls."
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Re: Need Advice

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:35 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Jeff_36 wrote: What's the difference?
Smaller diameter wheels for metal rubber saving meant an adjustment to existing vehicles chassis to incorporate the change in the torsion bars. (Germany was running out of rubber) torsion bars.jpg
Next week I will thrill you with how the 16 bolt tank wheel for the Panther was modified to 24 bolts and this reduced rubber shredding. :D

( My dad was a train spotter) :lol:

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:15 pm

Saw a show on Book TV yesterday "Tanks and Artillery Design and Deployment" by somebody. His point was that ease of maintenance was high on USA's design requirements but not so high if at all on the Germans. so they lost. Lots of "expertise" in such reviews......which makes me wonder about the high maintenance designs USA is putting out today.... at least in our aircraft. Don't know about tanks and artillery.
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Re: Need Advice

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:41 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Saw a show on Book TV yesterday "Tanks and Artillery Design and Deployment" by somebody. His point was that ease of maintenance was high on USA's design requirements but not so high if at all on the Germans. so they lost.


Sort of true.....

The USA and NATO have expensive professional trained armies and servicemen serve for longer. For this reason they can support the best high quality and technically complex equipment and retain the intellectual capacity to do this.

Cold war Russia and the Warsaw Pact had conscript armies, with low training and a fast personnel turn over. For this reason they had simpler and easier to maintain equipment, but not as good as the USA and NATO.

However, Russia is converting to a professional army and is now rolling out it's new complex, high maintenance vehicles. The odd thing is that they are still moderately simple. The reason for this is "mass volume production cost" in case of a conventional war, AND because Russia anticipates arms sales to third world countries with no training or maintenance regimes.

Germany in WWII simply had too many varieties of different vehicles and could never get spare parts supply lines working. It is a myth that Germany had large numbers of German tanks and trucks. Germany had to invade Czechoslovakia to capture its tanks. One quarter of all German tanks that invaded Russia were Czechoslovakian. In 1943 Speer initiated a plan to produce standardised tanks that were easy to manufacture, but this was too late.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:27 pm

The T-34 was described as a "heavily armed tractor".
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Re: Need Advice

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:37 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The T-34 was described as a "heavily armed tractor".

The T-34 was pretty basic but it worked. If you knocked out one, another five would follow after it.

The Germans, to rationalise production, first thought of simply copying it with the VK3002 with late German suspension.
T 34 copy.jpg


However they went with standard tanks that looked like the Panther. However, look at the proposed suspension.
E 50.jpg
Although fans of "World of Tanks" love this paper panzer the simplified suspension was never going to work. That's one reason why it never entered production.

The most interesting thing was the elimination of turrets. Of all the proposed standardised German tanks, only two had a rotating turret. The rest had guns in the chassis with little room for aiming. This is interesting, because after the war the Germans did make tanks without rotating turrets and realised this was a really bad idea.
Kannone.jpg


My point is that the Germans were not the greatest tank designers ever. Every country had ongoing development problems. :D
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:41 am

"Aiming the tank" reduced the amount of mechanicals needed for production of the tank. How to work tank with that limitation was left to the tank toads.
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