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---------“What in blazes is our Moon doing way out there? It’s too far out to be a true satellite of Earth , it is too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the Moon then having taken up a nearly circular orbit about the Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible. . . . But, then, if the Moon is neither a true satellite of the Earth nor a captured one, what is it?” – Isaac Asimov, Asimov on Astronomy,” Doubleday, 1974; Mercury Press 1963; also quoted in Don Wilson’s book, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon (1975)----------Isaac Asimov,
American author and professor of biochemistry at Boston University and Science Fiction writer. Asimov was one of the most prolific writers of all time.:

"We cannot help but come to the conclusion that the Moon by rights ought not to be there. The fact that it is, is one of the strokes of luck almost too good to accept… Small planets, such as Earth, with weak gravitational fields, might well lack satellites… … In general then, when a planet does have satellites, those satellites are much smaller than the planet itself. Therefore, even if the Earth has a satellite, there would be every reason to suspect… that at best it would be a tiny world, perhaps 30 miles in diameter. But that is not so. Earth not only has a satellite, but it is a giant satellite, 2160 miles in diameter. How is it then, that tiny Earth has one? Amazing."---
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---redicecreations---Irwin Shapiro,
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

“The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error – the Moon doesn’t exist.’

"The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight."--------------------------Dr. Gordon MacDonald,
NASA

"it would seem that the Moon is more like a hollow than a homogenous sphere’. He surmised that the data must have been wrong – but it wasn’t."----------Dr. Sean C Solomon,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

"The Lunar Orbiter experiments had vastly improved knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field and indicated the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow."------------Ken Johnson,
Supervisor of the Data and Photo Control department during the Apollo missions

"The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it." Moon rocks have been found to contain processed metals, including brass and mica, and the elements Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 that have never been found to occur naturally. ------Dr Harold Urey,
Nobel Prize for Chemistry

"I’m terribly puzzled by the rocks from the Moon and in particular of their titanium content."------------Dr. Robin Brett,
NASA Scientist

"It seems much easier to explain the nonexistence of the moon than its existence." --------------------------Dr S Ross Taylor,
Geochemist of lunar chemical analysis,

Said the problem was that maria plains the size of Texas had to be covered with melted rock containing fluid titanium. He said you would not expect titanium ever to be hot enough to do that, even on Earth, and no one has ever suggested that the Moon was hotter than the Earth.

"What could distribute titanium in this way? Highly advanced technology developed and operated by entities that are immensely more technologically advance than humans."----------------Mikhail Vasin, Alexander Shcherbakov,
Societ Academy of Sciences, 1970.

"Is the moon a creation of an alien intelligence?"
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:34 pm

Is Phobos an Artificial Structure?

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Phobos has itself always been considered a rather mysterious object, as has its smaller twin, Deimos. Joseph Shklovskii, a member of the Soviet Academy of ..----------.Soviet Air Force Colonel Marina Popovich has gone on record stating that Phobos, one of the two Martian moons, is an artificial structure.

She gave this information to CSETI’s International Director, Dr. Steven Greer. Her sources also advised that it is hollow. The credentials of Marina Popovich are second to none. ------------Phobos has itself always been considered a rather mysterious object, as has its smaller twin, Deimos. Joseph Shklovskii, a member of the Soviet Academy of science, calculated from the estimated density of the Martian atmosphere, and the "acceleration" of Phobos, that the moon must be hollow. Evidence for this arose in July 1988, when the Russians launched two unmanned planetary probes (Phobos 1 and Phobos 2). ------------------The mission was successful until Phobos 2 aligned itself with the Martian Moon. Then, on the 28th March, the Soviet mission control center acknowledged sudden communication "problems" with the spacecraft. Tass, the official Soviet news agency, reported that "Phobos 2 had failed to communicate with Earth, as scheduled, after completing an operation yesterday around the Martin moon Phobos.

Scientists at mission control have been unable to establish radio contact." The probe revealed anomalies on the surface of Mars (heat radiation leakage, in a perfect geometrical shape running parallel one to one another directly along the equator, and the Face on Mars).

Another anomaly was also found one of the last transmissions from Phobos 2. It was a photograph of a gigantic cylindrical object - a huge, approximately 20km long, 1.5km diameter cigar-shaped ’mother ship’, that was photographed on the 25th March 1989. hanging or packed next to the Martian moon Phobos by the Soviet unmanned probe Phobos.


After that last frame was radio-transmitted back to Earth, the probe mysteriously disappeared; according to the Russians it was destroyed - possibly knocked out with an energy pulse beam.


So what was it that collided or crashed into Phobos 2?


Was the space probe shot out of space for "seeing too much"?


What does the last secret frame show?


Popovich was associated with the controversial frames being ’smuggled’ out of top secret files, and although they have not been publicly released, it is believed however, that the frames have been shown to US and British officials.



The cigar shaped craft in the penultimate frame taken by Phobos 2, is apparently the object casting the oblong shadow on the surface of Mars in an earlier photo.
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby ryu238 » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:38 pm

It sounds like you are quote mining. You don't provide links to where you got these, when they said it or in what context. Considering that you are looking for famous people this is also an argument of authority.

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The Moon: An Unexplained Phenomenon - Red Ice Creations

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Aug 13, 2013 - Irwin Shapiro, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics �The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error � the Moon ...
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:51 pm

^^^
Carl Sagan,
Cosmologist,-----

"A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."



University of Arizona Lon Hood------
"We knew that the Moon�s core was small, but we didn�t know it was this small� This really does add weight to the idea that the Moon�s origin is unique, unlike any other terrestrial body."


NASA scientists------
The Apollo 12 mission to the Moon in November 1969 set up seismometers and then intentionally crashed the Lunar Module causing an impact equivalent to one ton of TNT. The shockwaves built up for eight minutes, and NASA scientists said the Moon �rang like a bell.


Maurice Ewing,
American geophysicist and oceanographer--------------

"As for the meaning of it, I�d rather not make an interpretation right now, but it is as though someone had struck a bell, say, in the belfry of the a church a single blow and found that the reverberation from it continued for 30 minutes."


Ken Johnson,
Supervisor of the Data and Photo Control department during the Apollo missions-------

"The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it."
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Postby Poodle » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:29 pm

Deimos, on the other hand, is actually a monstrous grape.

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Which one of those two is the sock puppet?
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gorgeous wrote:Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Probably not.
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...that oughta fix the link....
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:57 pm

---------Mars' Moon Phobos has been analyzed as being one-third hollow according to European Space Agency reports, which has triggered some wild and utterly fascinating rumors and speculation that we've featured below.

From the European Space Agency's "The Phobos Blog" - published on 25 March, 2010:

Radio science result from 2008 Phobos Flyby now accepted for publication:

"We report independent results from two subgroups of the Mars Express Radio Science (MaRS) team who independently analyzed Mars Express (MEX) radio tracking data for the purpose of determining consistently the gravitational attraction of the moon Phobos on the MEX spacecraft, and hence the mass of Phobos.

We conclude that the interior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid.

For a Martian moon that is demonstrably "1/3 hollow," as measured by two totally independent space programs, and separated by ~20 years... under any likely astrophysical formation scenario cannot exist as just a "natural" moon.


The MARSIS radar imaging experiment- according to "inside" ESA sources- recounted "a Phobos' interior filled with 'cavernous, geometric rooms... right-angle walls... and floors - detectable via the semi-regular 'structure of the returning, interior radar echoes...' as they were impressed upon the reflected MARSIS signals."


MARSIS was physically seeing (via this radar) a three-dimensional, totally artificial, interior world within Phobos; and a "reflection void interior geometry"... which correlated eerily with the earlier (lower-resolution) Phobos "interior gravity tracking data."


No natural "space rock" could possibly possess such an enormous range of "natural radar absorbers and reflectors"; nothing "natural" could reflect (or absorb) EM energy that way across so many orders of magnitude.

In other words - the MARSIS radar reflections officially published on the official ESA Phobos website contained explicit scientific data, from multiple perspectives, which strongly,


"supported the idea that this is what radar echoes would look like, coming back from inside, 'a huge... geometric... hollow spaceship'.


In fact, they were the primary source of the decidedly "internal, 3-D geometric-looking" radar signature.

The concurrence of all three of these independent Mars Express experiments- "imaging," "internal mass distribution," (tracking) and "internal radar imaging"- now agreed that "the interior of Phobos is 'partially hollow with internal, geometric "voids" inside it.'"


Meaning that Phobos is artificial."

Acceptance of Report by Geophysical Research Letters:


"The technical paper discussing the mass and density of Phobos, as determined during the 2008 flyby, has been accepted by Geophysical Research Letters:

The abstract is:

We report independent results from two subgroups of the Mars Express Radio Science (MaRS) team who independently analyzed Mars Express (MEX) radio tracking data for the purpose of determining consistently the gravitational attraction of the moon Phobos on the MEX spacecraft, and hence the mass of Phobos.


New values for the gravitational parameter (GM=0.7127 ± 0.0021 x 10-³ km³/s² and density of Phobos (1876 ± 20 kg/m³ provide meaningful new constraints on the corresponding range of the body's porosity (30% ± 5%), provide a basis for improved interpretation of the internal structure.

We conclude that the interior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid.

The full reference in GRL will be:

Andert, T. P., P. Rosenblatt, M. Pätzold, B. Hausler, V. Dehant, G.L. Tyler, and J. C. Marty(2010), Precise Mass Determination and the Nature of Phobos, Geophys. Res. Lett., doi:10.1029/2009GL041829, in press. (accepted 22 March 2010
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-----Eisenhower White House On Mars' Moon Phobos Being ...

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The Russian scientist's announcement that Phobos was a hollow, artificial satellite, proving the existence of a Martian civilization, set off heated arguments ...-------------------March 1960 - The Martian moon Phobos, generally accepted as a celestial body, actually may be an artificial satellite launched long ago by an advanced Martian race, according to Dr. S. Fred Singer, special advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments. No mention was made of the other Mars moon, Deimos. In his published opinion, Dr. Singer backed a claim first made by the Soviet astrophysicist Shklovsky. The Russian scientist's announcement that Phobos was a hollow, artificial satellite, proving the existence of a Martian civilization, set off heated arguments among astronomers.------------- Shklovsky based his decision on a long study of Phobos' peculiar orbit, which other astronomers have noted. The Russian claim has calculations and those of earlier astronomers prove Phobos cannot possibly be an ordinary moon. Though Dr. Singer said the figures still had to be proved, his Phobos statement in the February Astronautics, rejected other astronomers' objections. "I would be very disappointed if it turns out to be solid," said the White House advisor. If the figures were correct, he stated, then Phobos undoubtedly is a hollow, artificial satellite. If it is, he said, its purpose would probably be to sweep up radiation in the Mars' atmosphere, so that Martians could safely operate around their planet. Dr. Singer also pointed out that Phobos would make an ideal space base, both for Martians and earthlings. ---------------In 1963, Raymond H. Wilson Jr., Chief of Applied Mathematics at NASA, joined Shklovsky and Dr. Singer in their Martian conclusions. He stated that "Phobos might be a colossal base orbiting Mars." He also stated that NASA itself was considering the possibility, and was planning for special probes that would answer the question. Dr Iosif Shklovsky based his conclusion on calculations that had been done by the U.S. Naval Observatory (rumored in the 1980s to have been the home of the elusive MJ-12 group). Shklovsky stated Phobos was being "slowed by electromagnetic drag and tidal friction more than was possible with an actual solid moon." Shklovsky is also famous for having written a 1966 book on SETI called Intelligent Life in the Universe. A famous astronomer by the name of Carl Sagan was asked to edit the book. When he had finished adding all his viewpoints the book had doubled in length and he became a co-authored with Shklovsky. ------------Their views on extra-terrestrial life still remained at odds. During the Symposium on Unidentified Flying Objects - Hearing before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, Sagan was asked by Congressman Roush if Shklovsky shared his views. Sagan replied: "I think he shares my restraint. I think both of us would say we think this is an extremely important subject, that we are on the frontier of being able to find out, but that neither of us knows whether there is or isn't life out there. Let me say if it turns out there isn't life on Mars, that is almost as interesting as if we find there is life on Mars, because then we have to ask, what happened different on Mars than on the Earth, so that life arose here and not there. That will surely give us a very profound entry into the question of follow-up of evolution and the cosmic context." -------------------------------------------sooo....several leading scientists have said the moon is likely hollow, and phobos is hollow..both are fake.....who put them there and why?
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Postby Poodle » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:11 am

Porous. POROUS ...

... which doesn't mean hollow at all.

It simply means that there are cavities in Phobos (and they're reportedly on sub-millimetre scale).

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^^^^---The MARSIS radar imaging experiment- according to "inside" ESA sources- recounted "a Phobos' interior filled with 'cavernous, geometric rooms... right-angle walls... and floors - detectable via the semi-regular 'structure of the returning, interior radar echoes...' as they were impressed upon the reflected MARSIS signals."--------------- the MARSIS radar reflections officially published on the official ESA Phobos website contained explicit scientific data, from multiple perspectives, which strongly,


"supported the idea that this is what radar echoes would look like, coming back from inside, 'a huge... geometric... hollow spaceship'.


In fact, they were the primary source of the decidedly "internal, 3-D geometric-looking" radar signature.

The concurrence of all three of these independent Mars Express experiments- "imaging," "internal mass distribution," (tracking) and "internal radar imaging"- now agreed that "the interior of Phobos is 'partially hollow with internal, geometric "voids" inside it.'"


Meaning that Phobos is artificial."-----------------
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Postby Poodle » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:20 am

"Inside" sources, eh?

Well, if you'd said that in the first place, we could have saved a whole thread.

EDIT: You may be interested to discover that the project's control centre was in Germany, there were operations centres in Spain and the UK, and ESA and NASA networks were incorporated as ground stations. Hard to keep a secret amongst that lot.

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Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:37 am

the manhattan project had over 100,000 people involved for decades...the public never knew it...
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gorgeous wrote:the manhattan project had over 100,000 people involved for decades...the public never knew it...

Less than six years. :roll:
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no-----wiki----From 1942 to 1946, the project was under the direction of Major General Leslie Groves of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers; physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer was the director of the Los Alamos National Laboratory that designed the actual bombs. The Army component of the project was designated the Manhattan District; "Manhattan" gradually superseded the official codename, Development of Substitute Materials, for the entire project. Along the way, the project absorbed its earlier British counterpart, Tube Alloys. The Manhattan Project began modestly in 1939, but grew to employ more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion (about $26 billion in 2015[1] dollars). Over 90% of the cost was for building factories and producing the fissile materials, with less than 10% for development and production of the weapons. Research and production took place at more than 30 sites across the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada.---but less than decades.... :D
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why did someone create our moon and phobos and put them there?-----------------Whitley Strieber----"-But what is the moon? Is the scientific theory that the moon is the result of a huge impact with Earth by a Mars-sized object billions of years ago correct? If not, then where did it come from? And, given that higher forms couldn't exist on Earth without the moon slowing down it's rotational winds, could it be that our system is not natural at all, but something that was actually designed billions of years ago by some vastly capable unknown presence? "
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gorgeous wrote:no-----wiki----From 1942 to 1946, the project was under the direction of Major General Leslie Groves of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers; physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer was the director of the Los Alamos National Laboratory that designed the actual bombs. The Army component of the project was designated the Manhattan District; "Manhattan" gradually superseded the official codename, Development of Substitute Materials, for the entire project. Along the way, the project absorbed its earlier British counterpart, Tube Alloys. The Manhattan Project began modestly in 1939, but grew to employ more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion (about $26 billion in 2015[1] dollars). Over 90% of the cost was for building factories and producing the fissile materials, with less than 10% for development and production of the weapons. Research and production took place at more than 30 sites across the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada.---but less than decades.... :D

And the date of the Einstein letter? Because that's pretty much "go" for the Manhattan Project. Insert quibble here.
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby Pyrrho » Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:14 am

Earth's moon is not hollow. This is demonstrated by seismic data obtained by NASA.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/moonmars/fea ... _core.html

Phobos is not hollow in the sense of an empty shell. Phobos may be what they call a "rubble pile" or conglomeration with an overall porosity, which is quite different from "hollow."

http://sci.esa.int/mars-express/31031-phobos/

One reason to suspect that Phobos is not a captured asteroid is its density. Analysis of Mars Express radio science data gave new information about the mass of Phobos based on the gravitational attraction it exerts on the spacecraft. The team concluded that Phobos is likely to contain large voids, which makes it less likely to be a captured asteroid. Its composition and structural strength seem to be inconsistent with the capture scenario.

It is possible that Phobos formed in situ at Mars, from ejecta from impacts on the Martian surface, or from the remnants of a previous moon which had formed from the Martian accretion disc and subsequently collided with a body from the asteroid belt. Data from the Mars Express OMEGA spectrometer suggests Phobos has a primitive composition, so primitive materials must have been available for accretion during its formation. The circular orbit suggests that Phobos formed in situ whilst analysis of the Planetary Fourier Spectrometer data from Mars Express also points towards in situ formation but does not rule out the possibility that Phobos is a captured achondrite-like meteor.


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Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:15 am

those are theories....Sagan and Nasa scientists said it was hollow and rang like a bell...how many of the other moons are hollow and fake?
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Postby Gord » Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:49 am

gorgeous wrote:those are theories....

I don't think you know what the word "theory" means. For instance, "data" is not a "theory", it's what disproves your beliefs.
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theories are beliefs...
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Postby ryu238 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:17 am

gorgeous wrote:those are theories....Sagan and Nasa scientists said it was hollow and rang like a bell...how many of the other moons are hollow and fake?

No, we are showing you Data, Sagan was talking about what a sattelite isn't, and you are quotemining. Not to mention ignoring the data!
Also your link from Rense talks about a debate from the 60s during a time when it was thought there was life on Mars...don't you think we have moved on already?

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Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:35 am

no...don't know if there is life on mars...there is water...yes,....Sagan was aware it was hollow and wasn't a natural satellite as a result...so....fake....
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:51 am

gorgeous wrote:no...don't know if there is life on mars...there is water...yes,....Sagan was aware it was hollow and wasn't a natural satellite as a result...so....fake....


That's right. Sagan wasn't a satellite, natural or unnatural. :-P


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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby ryu238 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:51 am

He never said that.

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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:58 am

Oohhh, the 'completely hide' function is gorgeous.



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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby Gord » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:15 am

gorgeous wrote:theories are beliefs...

Like I said, I don't think you know what the word "theory" means.

ryu238 wrote:He never said that.

Who never said what where when?
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:47 am

Whut, no it'sy fit? :-P
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby Gord » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:57 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Whut, no it'sy fit? :-P

In this discussion, it's beyond the pail. And yes, in this case I do mean "pail" and not "pale".
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:04 am

Gord wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Whut, no it'sy fit? :-P

In this discussion, it's beyond the pail. And yes, in this case I do mean "pail" and not "pale".

Made you overshoot the bucket?
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby Gord » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:09 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
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scrmbldggs wrote:Whut, no it'sy fit? :-P

In this discussion, it's beyond the pail. And yes, in this case I do mean "pail" and not "pale".

Made you overshoot the bucket?

I just brought the bucket, I'm not going to fill it.
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:17 am

Gord wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
Gord wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Whut, no it'sy fit? :-P

In this discussion, it's beyond the pail. And yes, in this case I do mean "pail" and not "pale".

Made you overshoot the bucket?

I just brought the bucket, I'm not going to fill it.

Well... there's.... this. :shock:
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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:47 am

scrmbldggs wrote:Oohhh, the 'completely hide' function is gorgeous.



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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby ryu238 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:53 am

Oh for, Sagan never directly nor indirectly said that Phobos was artificial did he?

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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby Poodle » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:43 pm

ryu238 wrote:Oh for, Sagan never directly nor indirectly said that Phobos was artificial did he?


No, he didn't. The nearest he got was a simple request for open minds when dealing with such things. That, however, has never been enough for fantasist goons - hence the drivel we're getting on here recently.

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Re: Are the Earth moon and Mars moon Phobos hollow and fake?

Postby gorgeous » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:56 pm

Carl Sagan,
Cosmologist,-----

"A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

-----------------------this was about our moon....he's saying it's not a real satellite because it is hollow...-----this 'drivel' was stated by the many^^^^ scientists and published science paper that I posted.....both moons are hollow and fake...created by who?....humans? no.....aliens..---deal with it....
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