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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:34 pm

Its been a few decades now that Ive not touched lips to instant coffee. I'm fresh brewed cappuccino all the way. But I'm engaged in a project right now to use up all the old food I have in the place. Tired of buying new xyz only to find frozen xyz going bad or 10 year old xyz in the Pantry. So....I've stopped buying new food...been over two months now. Using up all my egg substitutes, powdered milk and so forth.

Upshot is that this morning for the first time I decided to use instant coffee I had on hand for my morning brew. For the past 2 weeks I've been sipping tea as I ran out of beans some time ago. What the Hey!!!!!===>I like it. Not "coffee" in my book, but a pleasant drink. Using about 3 times the recommended powder...artificial sugar...cremora to lighten it up. A pure chemical stew......but I like it. Not coffee for real, not tea at all, a third choice.

I drank drip coffee at home with ma and pa. Still remember my shock and dismay traveling to Europe where Sanka was offered as a first choice at the breakfast tables. "People drink this stuff?"...........and now, I think I will. On occasion, as a change. Maybe try some of that flavored coffee additive I see on the shelves.

Any recommendations besides slitting my throat?
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Postby Gord » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:07 pm

Don't bother with the flavoured coffee additives, they're a waste of money. If you want the flavour, go straight to the source. For instance, there's a Baileys flavoured coffee creamer that tastes awful and is actually more expensive, ounce for ounce, than buying actual Baileys.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:19 pm

I assume the same with the other flavors? the only one catching my eye has been "Hazelnut." I don't know why. Unknown flavors like "Viennese Roast", what the heck is that? I assume one or more may be pleasant atleast for a change, but all of them mostly just hfcs with an artificial additive?

I actually make my own Baileys. As per usual: tastes different, but quite acceptable. Hate it when a recipe turns out quite good....and I can't replicate it. Happens all the time, even when I take notes.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:40 pm

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:51 pm

Yes indeed. Of note: I've come across the very expensive "grass fed cows butter" that is supposed to make coffee taste better. I do plan on a grocery run soon to include more whole beans and will try it before I use it all up on Cinnamon Toast. Can't taste any difference on the toast...but I use it very sparingly allowing the cinnamon to be the main flavor to come thru. Have yet to try lard or chicken fat on toast instead of butter. Don't know why.

So much of what we do is ....... habit pattern.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:54 pm

I used to go out of my way to try food I'd never find at home. Cypriots made ... interesting dishes with lamb. Guinea pig "pies" in Chili. Something I never, ever want to know what went into it in Ulan Bator. It was fun. Even the disasters were interesting.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:08 am

Yes. It took me a while to learn to stick to my comfort range. no eyeballs or testicles for me. Nothing wrong with those organs.......I just take comfort in my bias. Outside Bangkok one time I was supping an excellent soup/stew. Up floated a little babies hand. I assume it was monkey.... but I stopped eating the soup. Gave it to the next table who accepted with gusto. Went back to Cheetos and Beer.
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Postby Gord » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:13 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:I assume the same with the other flavors? the only one catching my eye has been "Hazelnut." I don't know why. Unknown flavors like "Viennese Roast", what the heck is that? I assume one or more may be pleasant atleast for a change, but all of them mostly just hfcs with an artificial additive?

The only ones I've ever liked were hazelnut and french vanilla, but even they were very "chemical"-tasting.

There are recipes online for flavoured coffee creamers, but I've never tried them. Examples:

http://naturalchow.com/2016/01/homemade ... e-creamer/
http://naturalchow.com/2015/04/homemade ... e-creamer/

Both of those call for maple syrup, plus either hazelnut extract or vanilla extract. Actually they sound pretty good to me, maybe I'll try them!
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:56 am

Maple syrup. I've tried it....don't see it as so much more wonderful than any other syrup. Taste is taste. I do consciously try to keep my tastes: simple (aka CHEAP!) Don't want to think everytime I like something that I prefer something much more expensive. So far.... its worked.

Saying maple syrup.... makes me think of Honey. I have used it in tea. Again... its just a flavor to me....and as it was all very dark honey, it may actually be somewhat "aged" as it never spoils? but I'm pretty sure it was golden yellow when first donated to me.

As to syrup.... this too is very easy to make....its just sugar melted in some water. Carmelize the sugar first to get some flavor if you dont want to add molasses. Add a bit of hfcs to prevent crystalization. Good all on its own although I usually have 3 different flavors available most of the time. Right now: maple syrup, plain which means with added vanilla, and Blueberry. Cheap...easy... tastee. I don't know why some syrups last forever...while a few others on occasion will decide to grow fungus. Must be something I do?
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Postby Gord » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:32 am

Gord wrote:http://naturalchow.com/2015/04/homemade-french-vanilla-coffee-creamer/

Okay, I tried making some of that. It's not as flavourful as the junk you buy in the supermarket, so I increased the maple syrup and vanilla a bit. I like it, but it's missing something.

Also, I bought the cheapest maple syrup I could find, and it's watery and lacking flavour, so that may be part of the problem.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:42 am

One helpful view of all diy liqueurs and replications is to accept it doesn't taste like the original.......but still tastes quite nice.... at 1/3 the price. Quite often....I can taste a difference, but honestly, don't have a preference of one taste over the other...so PRICE wins out.
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:43 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:On occasion, as a change. Maybe try some of that flavored coffee additive I see on the shelves.

Any recommendations besides slitting my throat?

I agree with Gord: Don't bother with additive marketed specifically for coffee. It's quite easy to make your own flavored syrups, as they're just simple syrups with the flavorings added in.

For example, if you wanted vanilla, make your simple syrup, then steep the scraped vanilla beans in it until you've achieved the desired strength. (I see no reason why you couldn't use vanilla extract in a pinch.) For chocolate, stir Dutch processed cocoa powder into the simple syrup. These homemade syrups keep quite well in the fridge. Just shake well before using. (Obviously, you'd want to adjust the amount of sugar you're adding, since these are liquid sugar.)

I'm not really a flavored coffee fan, but I sometimes like some freshly grated nutmeg or cinnamon in my coffee, especially at night.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:26 am

Nikki re coffee. I agree. I grew up putting sugar and milk in my coffee and still prefer it that way. Dear Old Dad used to say that if you put sugar or cream in your coffee then you don't like and are not drinking coffee. "Works for Me."

Let's see: I make my own Almond Extract, Baileys, Amaretto, and Kahlua. A few efforts at Gin...but they havein't worked out yet. Then my own tea: (equal parts black, green tea, hibiscus) and try to use that in most cooking instead of water. What else? Yes...three different syrups for waffles and the rare pancake...again my custom mix using a lot of buckwheat and oats. My own 1000 island sandwhich spread? Mostly mayo with tomatoe sauce, pickles and onions...spices. Use it for "everything" including adding oil and water to make a lower calorie salad dressing. Can my own chicken stock. Make my own sausage and patte. HEY!!!! I just made myself hungry..... talapia on a bed of penne and a rice mix with green beans. Love those combos. Desert will be a frozen popsicle of many different pureed fruits with home made yogurt. All part of living cheap, healthy........and well.
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:08 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Nikki re coffee. I agree. I grew up putting sugar and milk in my coffee and still prefer it that way. Dear Old Dad used to say that if you put sugar or cream in your coffee then you don't like and are not drinking coffee. "Works for Me."

Let's see: I make my own Almond Extract, Baileys, Amaretto, and Kahlua. A few efforts at Gin...but they havein't worked out yet. Then my own tea: (equal parts black, green tea, hibiscus) and try to use that in most cooking instead of water. What else? Yes...three different syrups for waffles and the rare pancake...again my custom mix using a lot of buckwheat and oats. My own 1000 island sandwhich spread? Mostly mayo with tomatoe sauce, pickles and onions...spices. Use it for "everything" including adding oil and water to make a lower calorie salad dressing. Can my own chicken stock. Make my own sausage and patte. HEY!!!! I just made myself hungry..... talapia on a bed of penne and a rice mix with green beans. Love those combos. Desert will be a frozen popsicle of many different pureed fruits with home made yogurt. All part of living cheap, healthy........and well.

I doctor my coffee with a touch of sugar and cream...not as much as most Americans, since I like my coffee quite strong. I can't drink the stuff most restaurants serve.

My daughter is the infusions specialist, so the extracts, bitters, liqueurs, and such are her purview. Her currently "steeping" batches include lemon extract (in vodka), lime extract (in tequila blanco), coffee extract (in vodka), Thai basil vinegar, Twinings Earl Grey extract (in vodka), and cinnamon extract (in whiskey).

We make our own sausage too, including Italian, breakfast, and chorizo. We don't case them, though, since I don't have a casing attachment for my KitchenAid. Yet. Try stuffed peppers with chorizo some time; it makes for a nice change from the traditional. Or stuffed onions instead of peppers. They don't hold together as well, but they're delish.

Homemade popsicles are the best! They're easy to make and beat the pants off anything you can buy. Obviously, we bake all our desserts from scratch...it's as easy as a mix and tastes much better. I bake bread when I feel up to it.

There's not much in the way of processed food in our house, and it's getting rarer as time goes by. Whole grain crackers and cereal, canned beans and tomatoes...otherwise, everything is ingredients. Much cheaper, healthier, and tastier. I'm thankful I have the time to cook and bake from scratch, and I enjoy it thoroughly. And now I'm hungry and it's 2am.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:25 am

In my youth, eating was just a waste of time. Wolf it down... and get going. Glad I picked it up as a hobby now.

Tea in Vodka? Never read or thought about that. Takes a lot of coffee to make Kahlua....same with tea or is that more of lighter touch?
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:49 pm

I'm not sure; I'd have to ask my daughter. I do know she specifically used Twinings because it's one of the few brands of Earl Grey that includes bergamot. Most brands skimp on it, and the taste suffers, IMO.

I'm more than grateful that my mother took the time to learn gourmet cooking, and taught me how to cook so that I was able to teach my daughter. I think her first solo was around 9-years-old when I was sick with the flu. She made me Orange Pekoe-poached chicken and veggie fried rice, both of which were delicious. She's always been a creative cook.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:56 pm

Tea Vodka:

Google says its 6 teaspoons per bottle.

Hardly seems like enough to get any punch on the tea flavor........but try and adjust as desired? I can't imagine what this would taste like.......I'm stuck on Kahlua. If one does add syrup....then it might be "just a sweet drink". I'm using about half the recipe amount of sugar in the kahlua. Could be much the reason why it doesn't taste just like kahlua...but its good to drink and I even feel virtuous.

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Postby Nikki Nyx » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:26 am

That doesn't seem like much for a fifth of vodka, especially if you're only steeping it for 18 hours. I definitely wouldn't add the simple syrup to it, except as you're mixing individual drinks, if it's needed.

I tend to shy away from sugary alcoholic drinks for the most part. My go-to is the classic (top shelf) gin and tonic with a lime wedge. (Top shelf because there's nothing worse than rotgut gin. Well, rotgut tequila is a close second. Who am I kidding? I don't buy rotgut anything...lol.)

Cutting the sugar in your homemade Kahlua sounds like something I'd do. I use a lot less simple syrup and a lot more lime than most people in my margaritas, because I like the interplay of the sour with the slightly sweet plus the salt. Too much sweet ruins the balance, IMO.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:43 am

And for tea.....I'd take it to 205-210 F anyway to get some of the more bitter elements of the tea. I find most cold steeped extractions to be too mild and you miss the full range of antioxidents. Why drink tea without all that it offers?
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:07 am

Sensible. I usually drink tea without sugar in any case, and I've never liked it with milk. Ah...the only exception to that is when I have a cold. Then I add local honey and fresh lemon juice. Something to keep me upright while I make the chicken soup.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:22 am

Whenever someone mentions "instant" coffee I'm reminded of the opening scenes of "Nightmare on Elm Street 2".

(Survivor of first movie, desperate to stay awake, takes tablespoon of instant coffee from jar and swallows it dry.)
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:01 pm

..............and the Nightmare was that it was DeCafe?
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:17 pm

https://www.bustle.com/articles/61930-t ... ely-better

Link says to dissolve instant coffee in cold water first. Stops starch molecules from forming. This will be my project for the next week.
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Postby Austin Harper » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:15 pm

I generally like my coffee and tea black. Every once in a while I'll get a fancy coffee at Starbucks but even on the rare occasions I do go in there I still opt for a black drip coffee. The only times I drink my tea with milk and sugar for some reason are if I'm out of the country and its served that way by default. When I was in South Africa I tried ordering a tea with no milk or sugar a few times and I just got tea with a little bit of milk and sugar so I just gave up asking. The only instant coffee I've had that was any good was Starbucks Via and even then I'll only drink it if I'm camping because it's easy.
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