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Trump is RIGHT - Abortion is Murder, ..... "if"....

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:00 pm

Congress passes a law against it. And if they did, it wouldn't surprise me if women were put in jail. Here we have cultural BS galloping at high speed: killing the unborn is murder but the woman is a victim too? Ha, ha...... what GARBAGE.

How do people wraped themselves into pretzels with such BS "logic?" We all know the answer: here it is:
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Religion.


Years ago I used this same cognitive dissonance to prove that if something about putting the mothers in jail bothered you THEN MAYBE killing the unborn was something other than "murder." Or you can apply "spoiler" and be completely inconsistent.

Not that being logically consistent doesn't raise other issues. Its that same logic that supports abortion understanding intuitively that it is not murder that allows me to suggest that VERY SIMILARLY that young children should be subject to killing by their parents as well. You pull back a bit? Well........... whats the difference??? With a two year old child not wanted for any reason by its parents, you just have to understand that the parents are victims too.

See how that works?
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Re: Trump is RIGHT - Abortion is Murder, ..... "if"....

Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:28 pm

the only logical solution is both parents of the fetus must be given the death penalty....the male must die too for justice.....all males who cause an unwanted pregnancy must die....
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:56 pm

That is the moral position..... but what if the woman (its always the woman .... as I used to tell Mom .... funny as she got pissed off until she recognized I was joking) changes her mind? Meaning wanted to get preggers....then changed her mind when the kiddies was a mongoloid idiot...you know... sonogram shows a Republican birthmark.
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:26 pm

the male must die ...he caused it...
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:47 pm

Simple rules ARE easy to understand. I agree..... women are not capable of making decisions and therefor cannot be held to any.

At least WE can both be logical and consistent.
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:55 pm

castrate all males...problem solved...
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:03 pm

yes.................. logical ........................... and ........................ consistent.

Interesting that no one holds you responsible for what you post................. pregnant pause.
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:18 pm

pregnant pause....aborted....
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:25 pm

See.?. Right There. I would have said: castrated. To each their own.
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Re: Trump is RIGHT - Abortion is Murder, ..... "if"....

Postby ElectricMonk » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:01 pm

Let's sterilize all humans - maybe that will solve the problem.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:10 pm

Well, I think that leaves the original problem doesn't it? Catholics against sterilization because without procreation as the goal, sex for pleasure is a sin.

Otherwise, using abortion as a birth control method works quite well.
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Postby Aztexan » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:13 pm

ElectricMonk wrote:Let's sterilize all humans - maybe that will solve the problem.


Brutha, Obama and Monsanto are already on it. :afdb:
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Postby Flash » Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:02 am

ElectricMonk wrote:
Let's sterilize all humans - maybe that will solve the problem.

Even better, put all those hundred million or so guns in America to a good use. Shoot the sperm.
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Re: Trump is RIGHT - Abortion is Murder, ..... "if"....

Postby TJrandom » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:03 am

For Trump, I suspect it isn`t religion, but rather megalomania.

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Re: Trump is RIGHT - Abortion is Murder, ..... "if"....

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:05 pm

TJ--it is interesting only because Trump does express several liberal policies in the face of well know Republican Base Issues, so why the change on Abortion? He says its because he saw some sonograms or something like that. Purely chance one of his daughters didn't get raped and needed an abortion? Denying FREEEEEEEEDOM to others often comes down to those types of inidividual life experiences. Cheney accepting the gays...same deal. Philosophy tends to break down when exposed to personal experience but that experience is variable.

My own position is guided NOT by personal experience but rather philosophy: existentialism then pragmatism then bedrock FREEEEEEEEDOM: leaving other people alone.

Still very "telling" to see Trump try to logic his way through a Religious Tenet. Something business billionaires don't often do in public.
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