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The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:11 pm
by Monster
This is the popular definition of insanity, as attributed to A. Einstein.

Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

I disagree with that definition of insanity. It would mean that all heterosexual men are insane by attempting to woo women, and after failure, trying again, expecting different results.

There are other similar things I could mention, such as musicians making music, expecting better results with each released song/album.

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:19 pm
by xouper
Monster wrote:I disagree with that definition of insanity. It would mean that all heterosexual men are insane by attempting to woo women, and after failure, trying again, expecting different results.

I might suggest that wooing person A is slightly different from wooing person B, and slightly different again from wooing person C.

Or have I missed your point?

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:45 pm
by Monster
xouper wrote:
Monster wrote:I disagree with that definition of insanity. It would mean that all heterosexual men are insane by attempting to woo women, and after failure, trying again, expecting different results.

I might suggest that wooing person A is slightly different from wooing person B, and slightly different again from wooing person C.

Or have I missed your point?

I don't know if I had a point.

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:34 pm
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Your point is that persistence towards a worthwhile goal in the absence of other engaging alternatives should not be confused with insanity.

.........like posting here.

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:57 pm
by Gord
Monster wrote:This is the popular definition of insanity, as attributed to A. Einstein.

Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

By that definition, everyone who has ever hit an elevator button more than once was insane at the time.

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:12 pm
by TJrandom
Gord wrote:
Monster wrote:This is the popular definition of insanity, as attributed to A. Einstein.

Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

By that definition, everyone who has ever hit an elevator button more than once was insane at the time.


Hey, every time I do that - it is that last push that produces results.... :) except, there are now elevators in which a second push cancels the first ( with the floor selection buttons)...

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:33 pm
by ElectricMonk
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never will."

-which means that the fool gets his way with wise if he is persisted enough ...

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:59 pm
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
What if they both start with: "I should kill this idiot, but I won't."?

Re: The definition of insanity is wrong

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:10 pm
by Matthew Ellard
Monster wrote: There are other similar things I could mention, such as musicians making music, expecting better results with each released song/album.
This makes total sense. I will occasionally write a particular guitar "riff". The "riff' sounds great but I can never get it to fit into "other bits' and make a whole song. Twenty years later I will still practice that riff magically hoping something will pop into my head. It never does, yet I keep practising that" riff".

I assume Pyrrho will now boot me off the forum.
:D