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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Studies have confirmed the OP re music but the same study tools would shirley find the same with movies. All action.....no theme, no development, no surprises.

Short read: https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/0 ... lashdot%29
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Postby ElectricMonk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:43 pm

Are you trying to denigrate our A.I. composer and script writing overlords?
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Postby gorgeous » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:46 pm

illuminati runs the music and movie industries...repetitive for a reason....how they lull the public to sleep to ignore what's going on...
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:52 pm

EM: You are right, I can't makes something original..........Yea, I see the appeal. I prefer Haikus.
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Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:05 pm

All you can do is [try] break away from the trends.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:20 pm

gorgeous wrote:illuminati runs the music and movie industries...
I work in the music and movie industries, as a business manager, you complete twit. :lol:

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Postby TJrandom » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:16 pm

On louder... this was a large part of my displeasure with the Kingsmen movie. In fact we will be bending the ear of the cinema manager on this point in a few days as we go back for another movie. We had previously noticed the loudness with another movie some time ago, but the Kingsmen volume was unbearable. They really needed a health warning. My wife actually used earplugs for it - her bag containing more goodies than my pockets, I had to suffer. I`ll be asking of their targeted decibel level.

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Postby Monster » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:38 am

gorgeous wrote:illuminati runs the music and movie industries...repetitive for a reason....how they lull the public to sleep to ignore what's going on...

Oh my god! But what can we do?! :wah:
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Postby Austin Harper » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:50 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
gorgeous wrote:illuminati runs the music and movie industries...
I work in the music and movie industries, as a business manager, you complete twit. :lol:

Oh no, you're one of THEM?!
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Postby OlegTheBatty » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:57 pm

Monster wrote:
gorgeous wrote:illuminati runs the music and movie industries...repetitive for a reason....how they lull the public to sleep to ignore what's going on...

Oh my god! But what can we do?! :wah:

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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:08 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Studies have confirmed the OP re music but the same study tools would shirley find the same with movies. All action.....no theme, no development, no surprises.

Short read: https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/0 ... lashdot%29
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:08 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
gorgeous wrote:illuminati runs the music and movie industries...
I work in the music and movie industries, as a business manager, you complete twit. :lol:
You mean...you're illuminati?! :shockd:
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Postby OlegTheBatty » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:05 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
gorgeous wrote:illuminati runs the music and movie industries...
I work in the music and movie industries, as a business manager, you complete twit. :lol:
You mean...you're illuminati?! :shockd:


Shocked? :scratch:

Ah, yes, but you are relatively new here. we've known for years.
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Postby gorgeous » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:45 am

Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Postby Phoenix76 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:27 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Studies have confirmed the OP re music but the same study tools would shirley find the same with movies. All action.....no theme, no development, no surprises.

Short read: https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/0 ... lashdot%29


Yes, good article Bobbo. I have to agree with you wholeheartedly (bite your tongue boy!). Today's music, by and large, is not music, it's just a noise. I can't grab it, can't listen to it.

And movies? What a load of crap. Action? Yep plenty of action - meaningless though. What is the story line? Where is the genuine suspense? That's why I subscribe to a DVD rental mob who have some of the best movies of yesteryear. Classics, all types of genre, your's for the choosing. The biggest rental company in Australia. To hell with Netlfix, not in the race. Quickflix is the name, but only serves Australia as far as I know.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:30 pm

Anybody got the 2018 challenger to "Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, I got love on my tummy"?
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:48 pm

"Why don't we do it in the Road" was pretty limited. //// Cause you'll be hit by a car is what I always thought.
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Postby TJrandom » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:07 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Anybody got the 2018 challenger to "Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, I got love on my tummy"?


What a classic... :lol:

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:31 am

TJrandom wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Anybody got the 2018 challenger to "Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, I got love on my tummy"?


What a classic... :lol:

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Postby TJrandom » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:52 am

...good enough to eat thing...

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:47 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Anybody got the 2018 challenger to "Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, I got love on my tummy"?

Ahh...."2018 challenger"....so I got that wrong re the date. Ummm, that means I'd have to listen to some of it? THATS a no-go, so Yummy, Yimmy is the default winner.

Last pop song I happened to hear that I liked was Katy Perry's "Roar." I like the catchy way she transistions to "roar." The video was sickly sweet too.

I've gotta mention, for Old Boy Funky White Music, I still like "Bony Moronie" every time I hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdmuqYCf5Ik


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Postby Bobbie the Pragmatist » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:42 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote: . . .


I already agree with the statement in the headline without/before reading the article.

However, I want to point out that way back with "Hey Jude" by The Beatles that it got extremely repetitive at the end with the "na nas." It started out so well. So, I/we experienced a bad taste of some of it early on.

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Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote: However, I want to point out that way back with "Hey Jude" by The Beatles that it got extremely repetitive at the end with the "na nas." It started out so well. So, I/we experienced a bad taste of some of it early on.

Everything to its time and purpose. Hey Jude is about affirming our common humanity by recognizing what is shared and important to most of us. No better way to do this than invite the listener into the collective subconscious by an appeal to the oceanic oneness that love provides. The only way for a song to do this is by way of mantra. You fail to see the pragmatic function of the mantra. Repetitive, but not simple. Its an invitation to love life, repetitive, like breathing.

Mind the gap.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:34 pm

Just by coincidence, came across this video, for those who prefer listening rather than reading the OP Link (both say the same thing):

The TRUTH Why Modern Music Is Awful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:50 am

I sort of agree recorded music is going downhill is quality. I have a simple hypothesis for this.

Until about twenty years ago, it cost a large amount of money to record a song. Therefore the "A&R" managers (artist and repertoire) of record labels sifted through many many songs to choose the best compositions to record. Thus there was a entry cost threshold. Additionally, musicians back then, had to be able to play a musical instrument.

When computers and cheap home recording entered the market, the entry cost threshold was removed and any idiot could sample or use a computer sequencer to "play" to composition. Therefore the market has no become flooded with bad compositions.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:04 am

Good insight Matt, but what explains the better music going away? I'd think some minority number of old style rock bands would still be playing....but I don't seem them, not that I'm in the mix these days. Still some good "single" players with their guitars and such? But "pop" music is ..........not my cup of tea.....

I have friends with their kiddies playing music. On their own, they say they find the bands of the 70-80-90 much more satisfying to listen to, to learn from. Its not just nostalgia.
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:11 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Good insight Matt, but what explains the better music going away?
It's probably still there, but swamped by the large volume of bad songs.

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote: I'd think some minority number of old style rock bands would still be playing....but I don't seem them...
The number of people learning electric guitar dropped off. Why spend ten years learning guitar when you can program a computer to play dance music in five minutes?

Gibson Guitars goes bankrupt.
http://www.nme.com/news/music/gibson-gu ... pt-2244823

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:16 am

Hah....just yesterday I looked up and listened to Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No2. I only liked the rising lurid violin passages. Lots harder than the guitar? I always think of Tom Ewell when I hear that music. That is nostalgia.
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:21 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:I looked up and listened to Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No2. I only liked the rising lurid violin passages. Lots harder than the guitar?
I think piano is probably harder to learn and play well.

Oddly, you get left handed and right handed guitars .....but you don't get left handed pianos. It's probably simply because of cost.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:17 am

Piano is the hardest. violins harder than guitars. I thought this the other day listening to a solo of Asturias by Isaac Albeniz. In my top five of lyrical pieces. Gee I thought: basically 4 notes at a time while the piano is basically 10 notes all the time. .............don't quibble.
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Postby Aztexan » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:09 am

I had one piano lesson when I was a kid and the instructor kept asking me inappropriate questions about my sexual orientation like, "Are you ambidextrous"?
I never went back so I never learned how to play.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:09 am

Maybe thats why there are so few good piano players?
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Postby Aztexan » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:14 am

Too many play their organs. Fiddling around. Beating.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:36 am

Seems like that would give the ambidextrous the "edge" which is not the same as rimming at all.
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Postby Bobbie the Pragmatist » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:47 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Bobbie the Pragmatist wrote:
Repetitive, not simple.



There you go changing the subject again.


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