Dealing with a scam.

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Dealing with a scam.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:48 am

The message below is an email I just received, clearly the first one of a planned scam. This guy will probably ask me for money to release the funds which will 'make me rich '. This Michael Meyer (almost certainly not his real name) is clearly an arsehole and a fraud. My question is what to do. I am tempted to reply with serious expletives, telling him what an arsehole he is, but I doubt that would help.

What is the best response to attempted scams like this ?

____ ____________________________________________________________________

"I write to you about this customer and the huge deposit he left with our bank before dying with his wife in an unfortunate mishap.

It has been many years since this happened and no one has come forward to claim these funds. I am therefore contacting you because you both share the same family name.

I am prepared to assist you with all the information and document you will need to successfully and legitimately inherit the said funds.

I wait upon your quick and kind reply.

With friendly greetings,
Michael Meyer."

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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:52 am

Tell him you wish to donate the funds to Médecins Sans Frontières. :-P



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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:56 am

Yep. It's a classical scam. You have to pay them $500 to get them to release the non existent $100,000.

There's a new phone scam where "a survey" asks you to say "yes" or "no" and state your name and age. They then record those elements of your voice and sign you to a ridiculous phone contract, for which they have recorded evidence that "you agreed".

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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby Phoenix76 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:58 am

Well Lance, I get these types of things regularly. Guess our email addresses are out there. Normally I just hit the spam button and at least I won't get the identical one again. Trouble is if they use different email addresses they still come through.

Don't know who your authority would be in NZ, but I guess the police or maybe telecommunications. In Australia we have the ACCC - Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, and they are always interested. Often get warnings from them via email of the latest scam.

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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:59 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:...

There's a new phone scam where "a survey" asks you to say "yes" or "no" and state your name and age. They then record those elements of your voice and sign you to a ridiculous phone contract, for which they have recorded evidence that "you agreed".


For those guys I keep this handy

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Postby JO 753 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:11 am

Its been forever sins I'v gotten wun uv thoze, Lance. I thot theyd finally run out uv gulliblz and moved on to sumthing else. Maybe its just the American gold mine that ran out.

Its mostly the fone theze dayz here. I usually get more than 5 callz a day, most uv wich hang up befor anything iz sed. I cant figure how they expect to get anything but a jiant fone bill.
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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:15 am

Lance Kennedy wrote: What is the best response to attempted scams like this ?

Why do you ask? ie: what are your pros and cons?

Years ago, I responded as if an addled old fool (not hard to do) just to see what would happen.

Nothing.

Now I dump because I have better things to do .......... if you can imagine writing this post is one of them. Plus..... while curious, I don't like playing with snakes.
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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:26 am

A friend of mine got done. He was a very bright guy, with a Ph.D. in computer science. Then he had a stroke and was brain damaged. In his addled state, he got sucked in and lost lots of money. I really wish I had a way to solidly kick the arse of those guys!

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:36 am

I hate being brain damaged.
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:08 am

If there is an agency to whom you can report it, do that. Otherwise, just delete it. It's nearly impossible to keep your email address from being sold on different lists.

The US has a "do not call" registry for both landlines and cell phones. Once you've registered, it's illegal for telemarketers to phone you. All you have to say is, "This number is on the 'do not call' list. You are committing a crime. Take this number off your list and do not call again." If they do, you can report them.

Before the advent of the "do not call" registry, I always made myself out to be the one person to whom the telemarketer could not sell his product. If Sprint called, wanting me to switch from Verizon, I'd say, "I'm sorry, but I don't have a phone," and hang up. :mrgreen:

When I get junk mail, if it contains a postage paid envelope, I stuff all their junk into the postage paid envelope and mail it back to them, taping some pennies to the paper if I have them. :twisted:

So far, there's no "do not email" registry. Maybe someday...
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:07 am

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Postby JO 753 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:44 am

The American Do Not Call law iz basicly ded. Congress never really enforsed it. They charjed sum guy uzing it resently, suppozedly with a big fine and jail, but it haznt slowed the bogus number callz at all.

I like the Russian solution.

There wuz a guy with an autodialer and email spam machine selling hiz ESL servis that wuz pumping out millionz uv callz and emailz per week. A mobster got tired uv it and sent goonz with Kalishnikovz.
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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby Nikki Nyx » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:48 pm

It always works for me. They hang up quickly and never call back. However, I like the permanency of the Russian solution as well. :mrgreen:
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:40 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:A friend of mine got done. He was a very bright guy, with a Ph.D. in computer science. Then he had a stroke and was brain damaged. In his addled state, he got sucked in and lost lots of money. I really wish I had a way to solidly kick the arse of those guys!


Readers Digest (International) was sold as insolvent as it had so many actions against it for aggressive marketing against older people. Eight years after that, the new owners used exactly the same techniques against my father who had had a stroke, (but still answered the phone.) I went ballistic and did them over legally and then did Readers Digest (Australia) over again by withdrawing their cross-promotion publishing content from my allied media clients. Readers Digest made me very angry.

Reader's Digest admits misleading conduct, demanding payment for unsolicited goods
https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/r ... ited-goods

Reader's Digest sold for £1
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/17/readers-digest-sold-1-pound-mike-luckwell

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Postby Tom Palven » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:12 pm

I've had a problem with something called ads.pubmatic.com DO NOT GO THERE!

It shows up not in my email, but on the very top line of the computer, whatever that is called. I clicked on it once and it froze my computer. Another time I meant to ex it out and apparently clicked on it and it froze my computer again. Duh!

Both times I had to go to Dell support to unfreeze my computer. I have anti-malware, but they say it's not malware or ransomware, but haven't said what it really is. I tried to put a filter on it, but maybe because it's not email it hasn't worked.

On of the guys at Dell asked if I was welshing on some kind of payment I had agreed to make, and I said that I don't think so. I asked him what exactly that site is, but he didn't give me an answer I understood.

Anyway, that's my story.
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Re: Dealing with a scam.

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Tom Palven wrote:I've had a problem with something called ads.pubmatic.com DO NOT GO THERE!

It shows up not in my email, but on the very top line of the computer, whatever that is called. I clicked on it once and it froze my computer. Another time I meant to ex it out and apparently clicked on it and it froze my computer again. Duh!

Both times I had to go to Dell support to unfreeze my computer. I have anti-malware, but they say it's not malware or ransomware, but haven't said what it really is. I tried to put a filter on it, but maybe because it's not email it hasn't worked.

On of the guys at Dell asked if I was welshing on some kind of payment I had agreed to make, and I said that I don't think so. I asked him what exactly that site is, but he didn't give me an answer I understood.

Anyway, that's my story.

The pubmatic site put an app on your browser. Run Malwarebytes.
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Postby Austin Harper » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:44 pm

ADW Cleaner is another free, simple tool I've used to get rid of adware that other programs have missed.
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Postby Gord » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:52 am

Austin Harper wrote:ADW Cleaner is another free, simple tool I've used to get rid of adware that other programs have missed.

I just ran it, and suddenly I'm using duckduckgo as my search engine without asking for it. :glare:
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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:40 am

Gord wrote:
Austin Harper wrote:ADW Cleaner is another free, simple tool I've used to get rid of adware that other programs have missed.

I just ran it, and suddenly I'm using duckduckgo as my search engine without asking for it. :glare:


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Re: Dealing with a scam.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:54 am

Gord wrote:
Austin Harper wrote:ADW Cleaner is another free, simple tool I've used to get rid of adware that other programs have missed.

I just ran it, and suddenly I'm using duckduckgo as my search engine without asking for it. :glare:

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