Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

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Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Bart Stewart » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:02 am

You have to scroll down a bit to get the best pictures. There's no Godzilla here, but it's no less absurd.

http://forgetomori.com/2007/criptozoolo ... e-cryptid/

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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Gord » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:53 am

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Postby Daedalus » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:57 am

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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Gord » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:10 am

Japan?

Huh. Lemme try something here....

http://translation.babylon.com/japanese/to-english/

地球上最恐怖真实的生物画面

The fear on the Earth truly listening to Chinese live biological screen


http://translation.babylon.com/chinese%20(t)/to-english/

地球上最恐怖真实的生物画面

On Earth is most terrorist the real biological picture


http://translation.babylon.com/chinese%20(s)/to-english/

地球上最恐怖真实的生物画面

The earth's terrorist real biological picture

What the...! They're all the same language!!

It's over 9000!!
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Postby Austin Harper » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:55 pm

MonsterTalk had a good episode on Yokai recently.
MonsterTalk wrote:Yokai Attack!

This week on MonsterTalk, we interview Matt Alt and Hiroko Yoda, authors of Yokai Attack! The Japanese Monster Survival Guide, a book which details many folkloric monsters of Japan. From the slash-mouthed woman to a giant disgusting foot—these creatures have inspired fear and wonder in Japan and influenced books, movies and video-games.
Visit http://www.yokaiattack.com/.
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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Bart Stewart » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:06 pm

I've heard that there is more to the cheesy Godzilla movies than meets the eye. The various monsters symbolize things in Japanese culture. The lack of realism is irrelevant, just as an object of religious iconography need not be in HD realism.

The first Godzilla movie (1956) was interesting, except for the footage of Raymond Burr spiced into the American release. In this movie Godzilla has round eyes like a Caucasian. They're kind of eerie-looking, too, apparently made of glass or some reflective material. He symbolizes atomic annihilation in this film, released only 11 years after the atom bombs were dropped. Godzilla is a menace in this first movie, but he became so popular that in all future movies he is more or less heroic, fighting other monsters. In all these other movies Godzilla has Asian-looking, slanted eyes.

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Postby Erris » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:25 pm

A main theme in Japanese superstition and horror is the physical appearance of the creature being deformed or anthropomorphised in some way, while in western superstition/horror emphasis is generally placed on the actions of the creature (sucking of blood by vampires who basically look like people, witchcraft by witches who basically look like people, serial killers who are arguably people etc.).

Japanese culture is rife with things like kappa and obake, but my favourite bit of mythology is the earthquake-causing catfish.

Catfish are pressure-sensitive, electrosensitive etc. and historically, big earthquakes in Japan have been associated with catfish freaking out all over the place. So the natural assumption is that some big-ass catfish (the Namazu) is causing earthquakes by flopping all over the place. Japanese earthquake warning systems use the enormous, city-destroying fish as their mascot.

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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Gord » Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:10 am

Bart Stewart wrote:...an object of religious iconography need not be in HD realism.

True, true....

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Postby Anttu Lein » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:39 pm

This gave me a good laugh at work. :lol:
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Postby Bart Stewart » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:39 am

Anttu Lein wrote:This gave me a good laugh at work. :lol:

A week later and nobody has welcomed you to the forum! I will hereby correct that.
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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Gord » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:18 am

Bart Stewart wrote:
Anttu Lein wrote:This gave me a good laugh at work. :lol:

A week later and nobody has welcomed you to the forum! I will hereby correct that.
How are things in Finland?

For some reason, a newcomer's first post often doesn't appear when we click on "View new posts". Lots of first posts get missed....
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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Daedalus » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:27 pm

Gord wrote:
Bart Stewart wrote:
Anttu Lein wrote:This gave me a good laugh at work. :lol:

A week later and nobody has welcomed you to the forum! I will hereby correct that.
How are things in Finland?

For some reason, a newcomer's first post often doesn't appear when we click on "View new posts". Lots of first posts get missed....


Yeah, I didn't see this!

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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby ningen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:32 pm

It's already been pointed out on the other forum several times, but the monster here is clearly a rip off of monsters from the Japanese cartoon Neon Genesis Evangelion from 1998.

I won't give away the plot, if anyone is interested in watching it.

In short, though, this monster would trigger a similar reaction among anyone in Japan who watches cartoons to seeing a "sorta godzilla" swimming in the ocean. Evangelion is a very famous cartoon inside Japan. Possibly the most famous, although that depends on who you ask.

One thing I can say, it is the #1 Japanese cartoon in merchandising value of all time, if you don't count the tax fraud charges and bankruptcies associated with the property, but just in flat income. It's also being remade with digital effects, they are releasing the full length movies to the theaters, where they are performing quite well at the box office, nearly 20 years after the TV series ended.

In short, I'm not sure many Japanese would take this as a serious cryptid, but I don't know.

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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Gord » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:20 am

ningen wrote:...Neon Genesis Evangelion from 1998.

Is...is that a giant world-destroying angel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8w1bVAHZ60
Giant robots and explosions! Love it.

...and a fake movie trailer, involving Hobbits or something, I don't really know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP3haDd7LwA
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Re: Japanese Cryptids are Weirder than Ours

Postby Major Malfunction » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:59 am

This being was produced using the same process as other beings, and therefore, may contain traces of nuts.


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