Ryan's list of budget cuts

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Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:22 pm

This has apparently been around for a while. My Trump-supporting neighbor seems to be having orgasms over it. With fact-checking commentary, here's what they are:

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/about- ... ican-cuts/

My view: Liberal causes like the National Endowment for the Arts have few friends, and so they might well be cut. Republicans really hate the NEA. So, they'll save what is essentially chicken feed in the federal budget this way. But the big items, like forcing competitive bidding, ending sugar subsidies, etc. simply will not happen. The people those things would hurt OWN the Republican Party. There is no way those things are going to be cut, despite Rep. Ryan's idealistic and naive belief to the contrary. And where they do make cuts, they'll throw people out of work, or make it impossible for them to go shopping, and the result will be jobs lost in the economy and tax revenue lost to the government. I'd bet these proposals, if enacted (they won't be) would wind up increasing the federal deficit, not reducing it.
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Re: Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:28 pm

If he faces opposition, he just has to reword things and they will be embraced. It's their own game plan...



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Re: Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:23 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote: I'd bet these proposals, if enacted (they won't be) would wind up increasing the federal deficit, not reducing it.

I thought that's what happened in any GOP administration.
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Re: Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:27 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Upton_O_Goode wrote: I'd bet these proposals, if enacted (they won't be) would wind up increasing the federal deficit, not reducing it.

I thought that's what happened in any GOP administration.



Sorry, I fear I'm not quite getting your drift.

You seem to be saying that (unnamed) people claim that ANY Republican administration will increase deficits. A lot of people have pointed out that the Reagan and GW Bush administrations definitely DID increase deficits, but I don't recall any claim that all Republican administrations do that. With the exception of the Clinton Administration, deficits have gone on year in, year out, under both Democratic and Republican administrations, and I think the conservative Republican Congress that Clinton had to compromise with had something to do with reducing the deficits during his term.

I'll go further, cynic that I am. It always seems to be the party that doesn't control the White House that worries about deficits the most. When the same party controls both the White House and Congress, the sky's the limit on spending, and deficits don't matter. Just my informal observation, not based on scientific data.
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Re: Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:03 pm

My gut memory: Republicans talk the game but outspend the Dumbos .... all the time.

It might get somewhat confusing or muddles in cases Like Obama where much of what he spent was to fix what Bush the Retard did...............but in general. You know: liberals always wanting to tax everything? It has an effect.
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Re: Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:41 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Upton_O_Goode wrote: I'd bet these proposals, if enacted (they won't be) would wind up increasing the federal deficit, not reducing it.

I thought that's what happened in any GOP administration.



Sorry, I fear I'm not quite getting your drift.

You seem to be saying that (unnamed) people claim that ANY Republican administration will increase deficits. A lot of people have pointed out that the Reagan and GW Bush administrations definitely DID increase deficits, but I don't recall any claim that all Republican administrations do that. With the exception of the Clinton Administration, deficits have gone on year in, year out, under both Democratic and Republican administrations, and I think the conservative Republican Congress that Clinton had to compromise with had something to do with reducing the deficits during his term.

I'll go further, cynic that I am. It always seems to be the party that doesn't control the White House that worries about deficits the most. When the same party controls both the White House and Congress, the sky's the limit on spending, and deficits don't matter. Just my informal observation, not based on scientific data.

You need to visit the GAO site.
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Re: Ryan's list of budget cuts

Postby Gord » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:50 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Upton_O_Goode wrote: I'd bet these proposals, if enacted (they won't be) would wind up increasing the federal deficit, not reducing it.

I thought that's what happened in any GOP administration.



Sorry, I fear I'm not quite getting your drift.

You seem to be saying that (unnamed) people claim that ANY Republican administration will increase deficits. A lot of people have pointed out that the Reagan and GW Bush administrations definitely DID increase deficits, but I don't recall any claim that all Republican administrations do that. With the exception of the Clinton Administration, deficits have gone on year in, year out, under both Democratic and Republican administrations, and I think the conservative Republican Congress that Clinton had to compromise with had something to do with reducing the deficits during his term.

I'll go further, cynic that I am. It always seems to be the party that doesn't control the White House that worries about deficits the most. When the same party controls both the White House and Congress, the sky's the limit on spending, and deficits don't matter. Just my informal observation, not based on scientific data.

You need to visit the GAO site.

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