MonsterTalk #029 - A Lizard's Tale

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MonsterTalk #029 - A Lizard's Tale

Postby DoctorAtlantis » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:56 pm

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In this episode, the MonsterTalk crew interviews Dr. Tony Russell, a professor at the University of Calgary who studies evolutionary and functional morphology in geckos. Dr. Russell’s work includes ethnobiology — the utilization of folklore to guide his research. He discuss the uses and limitations of this mode of research, as well as the remarkable features of the lizards that he studies.

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Re: MonsterTalk #028 - A Lizard's Tale

Postby Gord » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:52 am

Ah, but does he buy his insurance from a gecko?
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Re: MonsterTalk #028 - A Lizard's Tale

Postby DoctorAtlantis » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:53 pm

Gord wrote:Ah, but does he buy his insurance from a gecko?

A variation on that was in my questions-list, but we decided it didn't fit the tone of the rest of the interview, so it didn't get asked.

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Re: MonsterTalk #028 - A Lizard's Tale

Postby busterggi » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:21 pm

Excellent discussion - ethnobiology is clearly different from cryptozoology but I'd like to add a few more examples of supposed cryptids that turned out to be real animals.

1. Komodo dragon - never was a cryptid, discovered by Europeans by accident at first but known to be exactly what it is & where it lives by the locals - never inspired any legends or myths.

2. okapi - borderline maybe but the natives knew again that it was just a regular animal, no legends or myths about it, and was fairly quick discovered by Europeans once they actually started looking for it.

3. pygmy hippopotomus - same story as the okapi

4. giant forest hog - same story as the okapi

5. Prez24@4354's horse (okay, i can't remember how to spell it) - same story as the okapi

6. mi-lu - never a cryptid, for Pete's sake it lived in the enclosed park private to the Emperor of China & everyone who was allowed access knew it was there - Europeans are too damned ethnocentric

7. gorillas (regular & decaffin....mountain) - okay, they did inspire legends but they also turned out to live exactly where the locals said & as usual Europeans yadda yadda yadda

8. coelacanth - never a cryptid, recognized for what it was as soon as seen by scientists but the locals just considered it a big ugly bad-tasting fish & they thought nothing special about - not the stuff of legends

There are plenty more that crytozoologists use as 'evidence' for cryptids that turned out to be real but all of these were actually pretty easilly found. None required elaborate excuses like multidimensional existance or telepathy to explain why decades, even centuries, of searching right where they are purported to live turned up zilch.

Another fine episode.


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