Advice On Arguing

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Advice On Arguing

Postby skepticalnotcynical » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:34 am

Lots of people around me believe in weird things. Some are fanatics, others are just innocent. But I really can't take it anymore. They keep telling the same woo-woo on and on. Like ancient Indian mystics wrote detailed predictions for each and every one of us, and you could get the predictions in India. Or my families telling me that Reiki helped my cousin get cured from stage 3 cancer, or my maid from Jawa told me that a psychic healer cured her from cancer. Or even my dad telling me that homeopathy cured his eczema. (Yeah, I know what you're thinking) The point is, they don't believe what I say, even when I present facts. Maybe it's because I'm young and just left high school. Any Advice?

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Re: Advice On Arguing

Postby Monster » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:16 pm

Well, skepticalnotcynical, there are half a bajillion videos and articles on these subjects. I suggest you start showing those articles and videos to your comrades.

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI
http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U

Monstertalk podcast:
http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monster ... s2012.html
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Re: Advice On Arguing

Postby skepticalnotcynical » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:31 pm

Yeah, I know. And I already watched and read many of those. I even downloaded the one on open-mindedness. But, you see, these people are 'close-minded'. So, I want to know how to tackle those kind of peoples. Trust me, they're not very much interested in watching those videos or reading any articles-unless if it supports their beliefs. I want to know if there's some arguments that 'they' could digest. You know, like how to use their arguments against them.(but in a polite way-because I tried arguing, and they just eventually got mad and became defensive) It's annoying you know. Anyway, thanks Monster. I appreciate your time and care on helping me.

* I really liked the video on Evidentialism.Very mind-opening.

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Re: Advice On Arguing

Postby Monster » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:19 pm

Hmm, in this case, there are a few things you can try.

1. Ask them about something you know they disbelieve. Such as Santa Claus. Or perhaps that Denver airport is being used by the government to build a concentration camp for American citizens. Ask them why they disbelieve those things, and then apply the same logic to the things they do believe.
2. Find some articles on faulty thought processes. My personal favorite is confirmation bias. It explains so much. You can find it on wikipedia.
3. Cracked.com had a good article on some mental processes. I can't find it at the moment.

Denver airport:
http://io9.com/5807582/proof-that-denve ... s-on-earth
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