Iran transforming Afghan war

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Iran transforming Afghan war

Post #1  Postby DWCrmcm » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:48 am

Peter Goodspeed, National Post · Saturday, Jul. 31, 2010 wrote:The night Canadian Master Corporal Darrell Priede of Brantford died in Afghanistan, the Afghan war took a sudden dangerous new twist.
A stream of secret U.S. military intelligence reports released this week by the WikiLeaks website suggests the May 2007 death was the result of a Taliban attack with a heat-seeking, surface-to-air missile launched from the shoulder.
In all likelihood, the deadly weapon was provided by Iran.
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Post #2  Postby Bunyip » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:25 am

Source of intelligence and cui bono?
There is ample evidence for Cod or Haddock, but the evidence for God is extremely fishy
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Re: Iran transforming Afghan war

Post #3  Postby DWCrmcm » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:09 am

ibid wrote:But the WikiLeaks documents show witnesses to the attack were certain the downed helicopter was hit by a "MANPAD" (Man-portable air-defence system).

Under severe international pressure to end its uranium enrichment program and nervous about being besieged by a growing U.S. military presence in Iraq, Afghanistan and Central Asia, Iran appears bent on increasing its leverage by supporting insurgents to tie down U.S. troops in a long, unpopular and costly war.

"I think Iran is playing all sides in the Afghan conflict," said Ahmed Rashid, an expert on Islamic militancy and author of a book on the Taliban.

ibid wrote:"Based on description of launch, size of round, and impact force of the projectile, it is assessed to be bigger [than] an RPG and possibly a surface-to-air missile," an after-action report said.


but of course you could just read it all for yourself and get back to us on that.

yeah well y'all liberals are famous for hightailin' it out of the "sh*t"
But since the UN requires each enemy combatant to have given his permission to be shot at, it isn't going to go all that well.
Time to opt out of the Geneva Convention, and kick some ass.
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Post #4  Postby Tom-Palven » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:05 pm

According to Wikipedia:
A Strela-2 missile is said to have been used in Iraq, April 2005, when members of the Iraqi resistance shot down an Mi-8 helicopter operated by Blackwater, killing all 11 crew members. The IAI took responsibility for the action and a video showing the downing was released in the Internet

Strelas are similar to the Stinger missles the US gave to the Taliban as a great equalizer in their victory over the Russian Army.  Apparently Russia, China, and  several other countries besides Iran produce Strelas, and the US military probably spares no expense trying to keep them out of the hands of resistance fighters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strela_2
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Post #5  Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:30 am

I agree with Tom.  It is like reading a russian newspaper in the 80's when America supplied the anti-Soviet resistance RPGs.  The Russians complained too but the USA kept sending them.   Now Americans are upset because Iran may doing the same to them, what the USA in the 80's did to the Russians.  
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Re: Iran transforming Afghan war

Post #6  Postby DWCrmcm » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:46 am

ibid
Iran and the Taliban dislike each other. They have a history of animosity that almost erupted into war in the 1990s, when the Taliban's Sunni fundamentalists murdered thousands Afghan Hazara Shiites and killed 11 Iranian diplomats.


Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/ ... z0vOulWS6d
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Post #7  Postby Tom-Palven » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:27 pm

Your link reads like a Pentagon press release ramping up accusations against Iran and bleating the mantra of the inevitability of a US massacre of peaceful Iranians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Irani ... '%C3%A9tat
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Re: Iran transforming Afghan war

Post #8  Postby DWCrmcm » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:14 pm

I read some of the link you cited, and I can see attributes of your point.
This was, a WikiLeaks, press release.
Unless your claiming a counter conspiracy.
The leaked documents had been set up before hand to be leaked?
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Post #9  Postby Tom-Palven » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:48 pm

The article is signed Peter Goodspeed of the Canadian National Post.  Why do you attribute his source to  Wikileaks rather than The Death Pentagon?
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Post #10  Postby Brian Ganek » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:53 pm

Another good reason to win in Afghanistan, defeat Iran before it can become a nuclear power.
Things are seldom as they seem, skim milk masquerades as cream.
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Re: Iran transforming Afghan war

Post #11  Postby Tom-Palven » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:03 pm

DWCrmcm,
 A couple of months ago you posted to the thread Israeli Sea Raid "News":
Post #8  by DWCrmcm » Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:44 pm

Tom-Palven wrote:
"I don't get your question.  What is your understanding of the matter, your position?"

DWCrmcm wrote:
"I won't disclose my position, other than to say that I am profoundly skeptical of any information coming out of a source in Gaza.
In my opinion you are sympathetic to the Palestinians."

Now, Mr. Crmcm, without stating your own position, you are attempting to twist the facts about who said what.  It was Goodspeed, not quoting from Wikileaks, who, in talking about an event of 2007,  said, along with other war drum BS,   "...In all likelihood, the deadly weapon was provided by Iran. Those two facts alone may be transforming the almost nine-year-old Afghan war."  Sounds like the same talking points that Rush Limbaugh most likely gets from The Death Pentagon via the Republican Party.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Irani ... ation_Ajax

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